# Wiper **URL:** \ **Category:** Maritime Employment\ **Created:** [July 5, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823 "2012-07-05T14:13:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Xavier6162](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/xavier6162/32/4842_2.png) [@Xavier6162](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Xavier6162)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/21 "2012-07-07T22:43:04Z")
[QUOTE=Black93Fox;73722]Ummm I got hired in two months ago on the OS advancement program… You get the bst and rfpnw training at msc training center.[/QUOTE] I wasn’t very clear. I usually ain’t. Probably what so many people hate me. I should have said the Advancement Program still requires experience. It is not an entry level position. There are a lot of former Supply Utilities personnel on the last list. This should open up positions at MSC for people like me…which I probably won’t get anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Mike23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mike23](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Mike23)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/22 "2012-07-07T23:59:05Z")
> [@"Xavier6162"](#): > > You are correct. They do have ABs and OSs without BST or RFPNW. I went to a BST class at the San Diego MCS with a bunch of AB MSC employees. They were all transferred from Supply Utilities. The Advancement Programs still exists but for MSC members only and the announcement on their internal site still required sea time and experience. The last Advancement Program board results just came out last week. > > This means there will be 30 plus openings coming up with Supply Utilities before the Fall months. For some, including me, making beds and cleaning toilets while waiting for advancement is better than being continually unemployed. I’m actually waiting for a call for the SU position. I put in my app on 2/7/12. ---
**Author:** ![Black93Fox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Black93Fox](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Black93Fox)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/23 "2012-07-08T06:27:32Z")
> [@"Xavier6162"](#): > > I wasn’t very clear. I usually ain’t. Probably what so many people hate me. I should have said the Advancement Program still requires experience. It is not an entry level position. There are a lot of former Supply Utilities personnel on the last list. This should open up positions at MSC for people like me…which I probably won’t get anyway. If you applied for su you’ll probably get it. I’ve probably seen 30 of them go threw training here in new jersey. They’ve been hiring them like crazy! The biggest thing with msc is passing security make sure your credit is fine nothing on it. They recommend running a credit check before coming to neo a lot of people didn’t well much to there surprise they got here and found out something was on there and went right back home depending on what it was. ---
**Author:** ![Mike23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mike23](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Mike23)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 9:06am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/24 "2012-07-08T09:06:56Z")
> [@"Black93Fox"](#): > > If you applied for su you’ll probably get it. I’ve probably seen 30 of them go threw training here in new jersey. They’ve been hiring them like crazy! The biggest thing with msc is passing security make sure your credit is fine nothing on it. They recommend running a credit check before coming to neo a lot of people didn’t well much to there surprise they got here and found out something was on there and went right back home depending on what it was. I hope I do get it. I have very good credit and I check mines once a month. ---
**Author:** ![Black93Fox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Black93Fox](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Black93Fox)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 10:52am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/25 "2012-07-08T10:52:48Z")
> [@"Mike23"](#): > > I hope I do get it. I have very good credit and I check mines once a month. Shouldn’t have a problem. Just keep in contact with them. Every two weeks they ship new people up to the training facility. I’ve been here 6 weeks have another 2 left seen a lot of su’s come threw. ---
**Author:** ![Mike23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mike23](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Mike23)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/26 "2012-07-08T12:35:00Z")
> [@"Black93Fox"](#): > > Shouldn’t have a problem. Just keep in contact with them. Every two weeks they ship new people up to the training facility. I’ve been here 6 weeks have another 2 left seen a lot of su’s come threw. Yeah I been calling them every other week. I think I’m in but just don’t know for sure yet. I also haven’t got a letter so I guess no news is good news. ---
**Author:** ![Black93Fox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Black93Fox](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Black93Fox)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/27 "2012-07-08T16:07:50Z")
> [@"Mike23"](#): > > Yeah I been calling them every other week. I think I’m in but just don’t know for sure yet. I also haven’t got a letter so I guess no news is good news. They take for ever from the time I applied till when I got to neo was 8 months it’s a long process. ---
**Author:** ![Mike23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mike23](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Mike23)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/28 "2012-07-08T18:05:30Z")
> [@"Black93Fox"](#): > > They take for ever from the time I applied till when I got to neo was 8 months it’s a long process. LOL you can say that again. I heard its a very long process before you even get on your 1st ship but I’m sure it’s well worth it though. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Horatio](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Horatio)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/29 "2012-07-09T00:39:49Z")
he could go to paul hall… ---
**Author:** ![Mike23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mike23](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Mike23)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/30 "2012-07-09T11:30:25Z")
> [@"Horatio"](#): > > he could go to paul hall… LOL…shhhhh that’s in the works also. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Horatio](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Horatio)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/31 "2012-08-08T22:34:35Z")
jeff their current material says the RFPEW is required to apply for that position…ergo seatime. sounds like a catch 22 ---
**Author:** ![seadog6608](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@seadog6608](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/seadog6608)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823/32 "2012-08-09T16:32:32Z")
Ah yes. good ol’ msc. the more things change. The more they stay the same. It took them nine months to hire me. I applied in October 1979 and was hired in July 1980. And I showed up a day late because I received the letter the same day they wanted me in the office. [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/wiper/7823.md?page=1)