# Veteran ships of the world

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940>\
**Category:** Maritime Topics\
**Created:** [September 30, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940 "2020-09-30T12:46:01Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/243 "2023-02-22T14:43:37Z")

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More on the former PEC 833, HMS Kilham, Sognefjord, Orion, now Orient Explorer and the attempt to bring her back to Norway:  
[https://knutdale.wixsite.com/ms-sognefjord?fbclid=IwAR1OWXAa\_g2bjV7CDKnltGFn-MpibqM7-5nvPXsjA3lL2rEKH9lvm2dYibI](https://knutdale.wixsite.com/ms-sognefjord?fbclid=IwAR1OWXAa_g2bjV7CDKnltGFn-MpibqM7-5nvPXsjA3lL2rEKH9lvm2dYibI)

Two of the enthusiasts that try to save her will be travelling to Kota Kinabalu, East Malaysia for an inspection and evaluation of the feasibility of restoring her soon:

> **[Vil hente M/S Sognefjord hjem](https://www.aasanetidende.no/nyheter/2023/02/10/vil-hente-ms-sognefjord-hjem/?fbclid=IwAR1oSnKaaUW0ZiCbD4kFWNsIXvLVqhV9jvcScUdNCEflJYXj0LAJUp0HdZY)**

I spotted her at Langkawi in 2004:

 ![Familiar boat seen in Langkawi 2004](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/6/d/6d1fd3929f76ef2044970fe82cd9304d1420727e.jpeg)

Still with the logo from her time as a ferry on the bow:

 ![Familiar bow emblem](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/8/6/86c74eddf6fba4b21d564c3ed6eb5a07feaf67a1.jpeg)

And the name Sognefjord visible aft:

 ![Aha!! The Sognefjord, a real veteran of the fjords.](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/7/8/788550a89d6b481c69b99996095fc6016f63055a.jpeg)

I visited her at the anchorage outside KK in 2010 and 11, while she was still in relatively good condition for her age:

 ![P4200563](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/9/f/9facd584b5c8019204650d370d117c9636e4b388.jpeg)

 ![P4200567](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/7/f/7ff5a5e68813597067eb8c7dd6e7f8e2e9b420b2.jpeg)

 ![IMG_0578](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/8/e/8e9850dbbbdfc951bdd126d80bbe26505616ba38.jpeg)

 ![P4200569](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/c/1/c10a3a3a5ee067cd2a2bf7d64af6a3ae00212911.jpeg)

 ![P4200570 (2)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/b/e/beeaec21113ba5040290fb54ca18b986485bf030.jpeg)

In 2019 she dragged anchor and run aground;  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/4/5/45c20de36ea6786b2b3a07e7f8f26547df574c94.jpeg)

She was refloated in 2021 and is now moored in KK awaiting her faith:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/9/1/915ddea0e152ba31dc78804526c7c3ae5b259505.jpeg)

The first PEC being launched in Chicago 1943:

 ![120282705](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/0/4/04560b53b05819fc6f46d69465ea6cb5f761251e.jpeg)  
This one became HMS Kilbirnie and MS Haugesund.

As HMS Kilham:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/1/2/125db745a3a1529246479acf5c354945c8d93602.jpeg)

Converted to ferry in 1950:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/9/9/99a136a20b5cdc5c86a7813690854e9308e9a7c1.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/244 "2023-02-24T16:41:00Z")

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One that didn’t survive 80 years:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/e/3/e3f062c5cfc02d3a9e94d5d57d054a144aa833e0.jpeg)  
Name: M/V Cali  
IMO No.: 5057917  
Nationality: Cypriot  
Type: cargo ship  
Propulsion: motor vessel (diesel)  
Date built: 1951  
Builder: Uddevallavarvet A/B, Uddevalla  
Engine by: Nordberg Manufacturing Co., Milwaukee (WI)  
Tonnage: 1895 grt  
Dimensions: 85.6 x 12.5 x 5.4 m  
Material: steel  
Engine: 1 diesel engine  
Power: 1700 b.h.p.  
Speed: 13 knots  
Ran aground/wrecked on Hamriyah breakwater on the 28th June 1979 when on route from Kuwait for Suez with a cargo of vehicles & a general cargo.  
Date lost: 28/06/1979  
Read more at wrecksite: [https://wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?183050](https://wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?183050)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/5/2/5299c936d96bf4145a304fd9fad2e5f34f047567.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/245 "2023-02-27T20:00:38Z")

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Veteran boat rather than ship this time:

> **[Lancering ‘Secretaris Schumacher’ krijgt status Immaterieel Erfgoed](https://www.scheepspost.info/lancering-secretaris-schumacher-krijgt-status-immaterieel-erfgoed/)**
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> De lancering van de roeireddingboot ‘Secretaris Schumacher’ met behulp van paarden, is in januari opgenomen in het Netwerk Immaterieel Erfgoed Nederland. Het oude ambacht kreeg de erkenning, omdat …

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/f/b/fbf7fd45c8dd53f66e92390c34744d1769402386.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/c/8/c89c3b146694981c6fe115cf6871d957fa335bb8.jpeg)  
Photos : Roel Ovinge Fotografie © [https://www.roelovinge.nl](https://www.roelovinge.nl)

A modern Dutch Rescue boat:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/3/5/35b75c1504ec20b3fff9959671a0f8703f814107.jpeg)  
Als de lancering niet verantwoord is, zal de KNRM van station Paal 8 met de moderne reddingboot ‘FRANS HOGEWIND’ een demonstratie geven  
Photo: Flying Focus Aerial Photography www.flyingfocus.nl ©

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/246 "2023-03-07T21:09:33Z")

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Sister ship of the African Queen?:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/8/7/87bcc93c11b7ff7c2ef37f078d47ea1efd231e93.jpeg)  
Ms AMAZON QUEEN as seen near Icoaraci, Brazil  
Photo: Jan Willem Goudriaan (c)

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/247 "2023-03-18T22:44:05Z")

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A team has arrived in Kota Kinabalu to assess the condition of Orient Explorer (ex Sognefjord) with a view to purchase and rehabilitate her to a condition equivale to her last voyage as M/S Sognefjord in 1982.  
Here is a video about that voyage:

> **[3. desember 1982](https://tv.nrk.no/serie/norge-rundt/1982/FREP44008182/avspiller)**
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> Distriktenes magasin. Programleder: Tore Andresen.

Text and commentary in Norwegian only, but “pictures say more than a thousand words”.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/248 "2023-03-19T15:55:54Z")

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She has now reached Tenerife:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/1/7/177c2479ee41072761531b9bf6b1b3a3d9584554.jpeg)  
The partly rebuilt private yacht NELSON MANDELA entered the port of Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain, on Wednesday, March 15, 2023. She is the former German pilot cutter GOTTHILF HAGEN that was around fifty years on location in the Weser estuary for the supply of pilots to the incoming and outgoing ships for the ports of Bremerhaven, Bremen, Brake and allother Weserports. The GOTTHILF HAGEN had accomodation for 40 pilots in cabins and was rebuilt 2001 to serve as a mother ship for the new SWATH pilot tenders that distributed and collected pilots to and from incoming and outgoing ships. Several years later in the North Sea the SWATH system took over completely and also the living platforms for the pilots were now SWATH units. All conventional pilot cutters were then withdrawn, laid up and later sold. There were in all five of them, all sisterships, three in the Elbe estuary, two in the approaches to the Weserports and one in the outer river Ems. The GOTTHILF HAGEN was after a short period of layup sold in 2011 by the German government for 145000 Euro to the Netherlands with the aim of converting her to a private yacht. Judging from the sound from the exhaust pipes of the NELSON MANDELA during the lengthy berthing procedure in Tenerife the former diesel-electric propulsion of this twin-screw-vessel - which was completely noiseless - apparently was replaced by a pure diesel propulsion. She flies the US flag with no shown homeport on the stern of the vessel. According to AIS she came from Lisbon, Portugal, where she left on March 9. The NELSON MANDELA was built in 1959 at the shipyard Jos. L. Meyer of Papenburg unter the hull number S 496.

On the same day she entered port only a few hundred meters away of the NELSON MANDELAanother vessel of the Meyer Werft in Papenburg took berth in Santa Cruz de Tenerife:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/5/3/532ca9da46e507132222f8376e79a7955bf751a1.jpeg)  
The cruise vessel AIDANOVA was built in Papenburg in 2018 under the hull number S 696. She is employed by Costa Crociere, Genoy, Italy/Aida Cruises, Rostock, Germany on cruise trips around the Canary Islands with regular calls at Las Palmas and Santa Cruz de Tenerife.  
A seldom encounter of two ships of the same yard that represent entirely different eras of shipping within a time period of sixty years.  
Text and photos: Jan Mordhorst

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/249 "2023-03-20T21:48:40Z")

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Maybe not old enough to be a veteran, but old looking:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/b/9/b97fccef48a177d05bce3a1b7ff9cdb5e8ac19a2.jpeg)  
This is one of those images that sticks in your mind for ages. Thoughts of peacefully drifting along, about as far from the hectic madness of today’s world as one can get. It was shot by Eric Camiel some years ago while on assignment for National Geographic.

Another picture from same source:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/9/a/9abd2ff2b01c9e33b40cbc76871602cc1faccfa4.jpeg)  
And to think at one time such sights were a common every day occurrence at any big port and many smaller ones.

Source: Historic Vessel Vega

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 10:28am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/250 "2023-04-15T10:28:59Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/0/7/07adf0257c75f81ff3e5261f093c8a700167367a.jpeg)  
The 1951 Fikkers Scheepswerft built PAVONA (IMO 5064233) arriving in Urk from Kornwederzand.  
Photo: Johan Trommel ©

> **[BalticShipping.com](https://www.balticshipping.com/vessel/imo/5064233)**

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/251 "2023-04-21T21:08:45Z")

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The Stockholm was in Ålesund over night:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/9/a/9ad4406e6fc8ded61fe3498bb19dbc6a0d8b72de.jpeg)  
She left for a trip to Geiranger this morning, before heading to Grip, She is on her way for a new season of cruising in Svalbard.

> **[Stockholm av Goteborg - IMO 8226612](https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3414348)**
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> Information, photos and AIS vessel tracker for the Ship Stockholm av Goteborg (IMO 8226612, Callsign SMYP, MMSI 265472000)

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**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/252 "2023-05-09T19:04:50Z")

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When they looked like ships.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/253 "2023-05-11T19:44:41Z")

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Veteran sailboats out on a training run:[

 ![P1140188](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/b/5/b5e67dce13dbe8c11f3dacf3dcc3346b5bc1be20.jpeg)

 ![P1140189](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/a/b/abd8cd3ce26d15361bd4a3ac0afe71fcf78ddb44.jpeg)

Anybody able to tell which class these belong in?

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 7:31am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/254 "2023-05-12T07:31:34Z")

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I would have said [IODs](https://iodwca.org/), but the class logo on the sails is different and we usually sailed them with 4 or 5. This seems smaller.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/255 "2023-05-12T10:44:06Z")

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I looked it up. It is classical 12.5 kvm (Sqm) Class boats:  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/f/e/fe03bfc65833ea856fe00a2f9aef447f5bb6278d.jpeg)  
The type and symbol is similar to the International IOD Class:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/b/7/b78ae6bfd711db6d85030a0d489134155ae892cd.png)

Here is the description of the type from the local sail club in Ålesund:

> **[12,5 kvm - Ålesunds Seilforening](https://aasf.no/125-kvm/)**
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> 12,5 kvm Om 12,5 kvm Kontaktpersoner Nyhetsbrev Kjøp og Salg Om 12,5 kvm 12.5 kvm Seilbåt er en klasse som ble tegnet i 1929, og som hadde sin storhetstid på 1950- og 60-tallet. Det er i dag tatt vare på en flåte med båter to steder i landet, her i...

> [@](#):
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> 12.5 sqm Sailboat is a class that was designed in 1929, and which had its heyday in the 1950s and 60s. Today a fleet of boats has been taken care of in two places in the country, here in Ålesund and in Risør. We have had a stable activity with about 10 active boats and a few more being launched. In total, there are over 20 boats in private ownership in the area around Ålesund.

An article from Classic Yacht Info:  
[https://classicyachtinfo.com/yclass/12-5-kvm/](https://classicyachtinfo.com/yclass/12-5-kvm/)

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 11:13am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/256 "2023-05-12T11:13:54Z")

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Thanks for the info.  
It makes sense they are similar, they were designed only few years apart (1929 vs 1936) both from Norwegian designers.

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/257 "2023-06-03T15:25:08Z")

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OLDIE FROM THE SHOEBOX

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/1/6/164ce5a9b97b8550574abdf5a55cfafa808fb7e3.jpeg)  
50 Years ago: the Cypriot MONTAUK built in 1954 as the Australian TIMBARRA leaves Malta In October 1973 in tow of the Yugoslav Brodospas tug BORAC for demolition in Split where she arrived on 2/11/1973.  
Photo: Michael Cassar

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 11:40am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/258 "2023-06-17T11:40:31Z")

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My first ship with Wilh. Wilhelmsen, M/S Tamesis:  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/d/a/da950b129c12d3d233c1b0cc4677b9bae3d53540.jpeg)  
One trip, Europe - Australia/NZ, two trips Europe - Far East (1960-61)

Second ship in Wilh. Wilhelmsen, M/S Theben :  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/6/0/60cb1a852761cd42fd04bf029672c518c31db7f6.jpeg)

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/5/3/530e8242245de538490ab0d6c3bfb70d43062dfa.jpeg)

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/0/8/08844de2316413e51f6a331a7b80e4e479b614a7.jpeg)  
Two trips, Europe - Far East (1961-62)

Third ship in Wilh. Wilhelmsen, M/S Teneriffa:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/d/7/d70e6d613ee5c08a7861a64d5aa377dee8b2b62c.jpeg)  
One trip, Europe - USEC, US Gulf & Mexico (1962)

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/259 "2023-06-17T13:41:40Z")

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The next generation of Wilh.Wilhelmsen ship looked like this  
M/S Terrier, blt. 1954:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/b/c/bce064c3c6facfe1d7f38ceb2aa0df1bab1a156e.jpeg)  
PS\> I never served on any of that type.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/260 "2023-06-21T21:17:45Z")

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A couple of generations apart:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/1/b/1b31214955c52de0fe4a023fd975cf9d0e4e8f9e.jpeg)  
Spotted in Stavanger: the beautiful lines of the SANDNES vs the modern passenger ship MSC FANTASIA.  
Photo: Capt Jan Berghuis www.mastermariner.nl

Link: [Veteran ship - MS Sandnes - Fjord Norway](https://www.fjordnorway.com/en/see-and-do/veteran-ship---ms-sandnes)

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/261 "2023-06-27T20:11:05Z")

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Once upon a time there were ships like this:  
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[https://skipshistorie.net/Bergen/BRG541JacobKjode/Tekster/BRG54119610100000%20ELIN%20HOPE.htm](https://skipshistorie.net/Bergen/BRG541JacobKjode/Tekster/BRG54119610100000%20ELIN%20HOPE.htm)

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/veteran-ships-of-the-world/56940/262 "2023-06-30T14:24:40Z")

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Seal catcher Polarstar arriving in Ålesund yesterday:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/6/d/6da1297049aad79ec1bb5816f8f093f96b3f0c16.jpeg)  
Photo; Svein S. Ludvigsen

> **[POLAR STAR - IMO 5280655](https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3056130?navList=moreOfThisShip&imo=5280655&lid=3136337)**
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> Information, photos and AIS vessel tracker for the Ship POLAR STAR (IMO 5280655, Callsign LNMJ, MMSI 258338000)

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