does anyone know the equivalent licenses for USCG holders overseas re class 1 2 3 etc:
Class 1 = Master Unlimited all Oceans
Class 2 = ?
Class 3 = ?
Class 4 = ?
Class 5 = ?
I looked for it online to no avail.
thanks & fair winds,
[quote=richard8000milesaway;21513]does anyone know the equivalent licenses for USCG holders overseas re class 1 2 3 etc:,
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Whose Class 1,2 3, etc? Australia? UK? New Zealand? Egypt?
You have to look at the STCW level associated with the licence. Even then you will find flag state maritime authorities will look at each individual certificate holder separately on his/her own merits to determine equivalency … if any.
A down and dirty comparison to USCG licenses might be:
Class 1 = unlimited master
Class 2 = chief mate
Class 3 = 2nd mate
Class 4 = 3rd mate
Class 5 = who knows Senior AB?
But … there are also “classes” which apply to lower level licenses that are domestic only … so in that case it is anyone’s guess what they could be compared to … they are not STCW tickets and some of them are boxtop clippings.
[quote=Steamer;21542]Whose Class 1,2 3, etc? Australia? UK? New Zealand? Egypt?
You have to look at the STCW level associated with the licence. Even then you will find flag state maritime authorities will look at each individual certificate holder separately on his/her own merits to determine equivalency … if any.
A down and dirty comparison to USCG licenses might be:
Class 1 = unlimited master
Class 2 = chief mate
Class 3 = 2nd mate
Class 4 = 3rd mate
Class 5 = who knows Senior AB?
But … there are also “classes” which apply to lower level licenses that are domestic only … so in that case it is anyone’s guess what they could be compared to … they are not STCW tickets and some of them are boxtop clippings.[/quote]
I agree with you Chief, that would be my guess. As to which country…I have seen this mostly on british jobs inquirys…
The Maritime Coastguard Agency (MCA) of the British commonwealth will issue a Certificate of Equivalent Competency.
A USCG 500/1600 GRT Master is equivalent to a MCA Class IV.
You only need to take a business/law class and do an oral exam to receive a CEC ticket. That will give you 3000 ITC.
This is a loophole to allow USCG 500 grt masters to run 3000 ITC internationally on foreign vessels.
But this begs the question of why bother with the time and expense of getting an MCA CEC.
Unless the applicant wants to sail one of the very few remaining UK flagged vessels (and a lower level license holder would be hard pressed to replace a freshly minted young UK citizen maritime college graduate), you don’t need a CEC.
The ship’s flag state is happy to provide an endorsement based on an underlying USCG certificate. All of the “Red Ensign Group” flags which fall under the banner of the MCA routinely issue endorsements for a small fee and a review of the applicants certificates. They also accept the USCG physicall which the MCA does not. That might sound trivial but there are only 2 doctors in the US who can issue an ENG1 medical certificate … guess what it costs to get one of those?
This is not to mention the UKLAP exam which, unless US testing had been very recently instituted, can only be taken in the UK.
And what kind of ship would a lower level license holder want to work on? A Bahamian mud-boat box-boat conversion for $2000 a month? A St. Vincent and Grenadines coastal freighter hauling used mattresses out of Miami for maybe less money?