# Understanding China **URL:** \ **Category:** Scuttlebutt\ **Created:** [May 25, 2017, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005 "2017-05-25T13:07:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/666 "2018-09-26T10:58:31Z")
another country to go broke and owe China for the rest of their lives ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/667 "2018-09-26T11:06:07Z")
China has expanded the area requiring low sulphur fuel already 01.Oct.2018: > **[Suzhou and Nantong also require low sulphur content fuel- 1 October 2018](https://www.ukpandi.com/knowledge-publications/article/suzhou-and-nantong-also-require-low-sulphur-content-fuel-1-october-2018-145361/)** > > Ship Owners’ Liability Insurance and Risk Management ---
**Author:** ![Tellarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Tellarian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tellarian)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/668 "2018-10-04T08:05:17Z")
China displacing India in the Maldives > **[India boycotts inauguration of China funded bridge in Maldives](https://projectupsc.wordpress.com/2018/09/02/india-boycotts-inauguration-of-china-funded-bridge-in-maldives/)** > > The News India chose to stay away from the inauguration of Sinamale Bridge (a bridge linking capital Male with the airport island) which is China’s flagship infrastructure project in the Mald… ---
**Author:** ![Hawespiper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@Hawespiper](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hawespiper)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/669 "2018-10-04T12:50:42Z")
[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies) Anyone surprised? When are we going to open our eyes? ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/670 "2018-10-04T17:35:36Z")
more proof they cant think or design anything, just steal other peoples ideas They seem to have a real problem getting past the compass gunpowder paper and the printing press on their list of inventions. Perhaps the cultural revolution did actually kill off all the thinkers? ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/671 "2018-10-04T17:48:44Z")
Don’t take the honour for inventing the printing press from the Germans. ---
**Author:** ![dbeierl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dbeierl/32/11833_2.png) [@dbeierl](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/dbeierl)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/672 "2018-10-04T20:01:32Z")
> [@powerabout](#): > > more proof they cant think or design anything, just steal other peoples ideas > They seem to have a real problem getting past the compass gunpowder paper and the printing press on their list of inventions. It took a lot of technical chops to pull this off. I’m sure there will be an active comment stream on Ars Technica. > **[Bloomberg: Super Micro motherboards used by Apple, Amazon contained Chinese...](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/10/bloomberg-super-micro-motherboards-used-by-apple-amazon-contained-chinese-spy-chips/?comments=1)** > > Super Micro, Amazon, and Apple deny everything in the report. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/673 "2018-10-05T10:18:09Z")
Chinese had wooden printing blocks I thought, half way there… ---
**Author:** ![Tellarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Tellarian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tellarian)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/674 "2018-10-05T12:14:21Z")
BRI continues, Xi Jinping is changing he world with Putin, strategically they are outsmarting Trump and the West in general > **[Beijing’s Grand Plan to Rejuvenate Gwadar](https://www.porttechnology.org/news/beijings_grand_plan_to_rejuvenate_gwadar?gator_td=mFAvC6IyPfmreokA3Mvh32X96A9JyaSj%2f9zeQbxJYFa4xB4DStTGKxXkM6z%2bA0TC5AC9TEvv2RmzJtKmb%2bnVsX01rIreiI6664oW%2beQWp3YWbD2dDuJ0Tkg%2bvqwoBALvVGE6zagjxlMo4%2bH5GjRewJ7pgjUp0tehiSVJ3e%2bfrcw%3d)** > > BRI rests on $54 billion Pakistan project ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/675 "2018-10-05T18:24:07Z")
I think their plan has already come to fruition, throw money at poor countries that cant pay it back and then take over on default or keep them poor forever. There are more crying now than happy with their “Chinese investments” [https://qz.com/265577/why-almost-a-third-of-overseas-chinese-investments-fail/](https://qz.com/265577/why-almost-a-third-of-overseas-chinese-investments-fail/) > **[China, Venezuela, and the Illusion of Debt-Trap Diplomacy](https://carnegietsinghua.org/2018/08/16/china-venezuela-and-illusion-of-debt-trap-diplomacy-pub-77089)** > > China has often been accused of practicing “debt-trap diplomacy”—miring supposed partners, particularly developing countries, in unsustainable debt-based relationships. But this is a misreading of the issue, and nowhere is this more apparent than in... ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/676 "2018-10-06T06:16:00Z")
Just another day in China > **[Interpol chief vanishes on Chinese trip](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45761466?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=facebook&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ocid=socialflow_facebook)** > > Meng Hongwei was last seen leaving Interpol's headquarters in France on a visit to his homeland. ---
**Author:** ![Tellarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Tellarian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tellarian)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 7:52am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/677 "2018-10-08T07:52:57Z")
China is relaxing fiscal rules. This could be interesting as the Communist central decision makers are pulling Capitalist levers without knowing the likely consequences, short term and long term. The law of unintended consequences cannot be avoided. > **[China tipped to relax fiscal rules to spur economy](https://www.scmp.com/news/china/economy/article/1879161/china-tipped-relax-fiscal-rules-spur-economy)** > > The central government is expected to try to counter economic headwinds with a more progressive fiscal policy, possibly by allowing a higher ratio of debt to gross domestic product.... ---
**Author:** ![Tellarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Tellarian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tellarian)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/678 "2018-10-09T14:40:20Z")
China out-Trumping Trump? [https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/it-looks-like-soybean-shenanigans-as-china-demand-plummets-overall-demand-increases/](https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/it-looks-like-soybean-shenanigans-as-china-demand-plummets-overall-demand-increases/) ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/679 "2018-10-11T01:36:37Z")
I read a report ages ago that said there is no way the rest of the world can supply enough soybean to china if the volume from the USA drops. I’ll bet its local traders supplying what the consumers wants, anyway they can? ---
**Author:** ![Tellarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Tellarian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tellarian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/680 "2018-10-11T07:09:03Z")
If China is using proxy buyers then the Ayatollahs have become notionally the biggest customer for the corn belt. The law of unintended consequences… [https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/iran-emerges-as-no-1-buyer-of-us-soya-beans/](https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/iran-emerges-as-no-1-buyer-of-us-soya-beans/) ---
**Author:** ![Tellarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Tellarian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tellarian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/681 "2018-10-11T10:51:43Z")
Meanwhile, in Sri Lanka > **[China port inspires the future of a Sri Lanka fishing town](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world/china-watch/business/china-port-inspires-sri-lanka-fishing-town/)** > > Sri Lanka looks to development model used in Shenzhen, Guangdong province, for inspiration to help fuel the country’s future economic growth. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/682 "2018-10-12T00:26:50Z")
meanwhile over in the news that didnt come from China [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-17/china-s-1-billion-white-elephant-the-port-ships-don-t-use](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-17/china-s-1-billion-white-elephant-the-port-ships-don-t-use) > **[How China Got Sri Lanka to Cough Up a Port](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/world/asia/china-sri-lanka-port.html)** > > A Times investigation into Sri Lanka’s handover of its Hambantota Port starkly illustrates how China turned an ally’s struggles to its strategic advantage. ---
**Author:** ![Tellarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Tellarian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tellarian)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 9:21am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/683 "2018-10-12T09:21:57Z")
Having sailed with Sri Lankan crew & officers I am well aware of how the Chinese hooked and gaffed Rajapaksa, the folk on the street knew this but it was a personal vanity project by the then PM. China got what they wanted by playing the long game just as they did in Venezuela, Djibouti, Pakistan etc. Anywhere with a weak economy, vainglorious and inept leaders sprinkled with corruption will fall to the Chinese. Hambantota was a white elephant but the Chinese will make it work - Colombo has run out of real estate and has infrastructure problems. Politicians have short memories, they look to stay in power whatever the cost, look to the next election or avoid one if possible, and, after all they don’t pick up the tab. Statesmen look to the next generation. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts… ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/684 "2018-10-17T03:50:49Z")
[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-16/china-may-have-5-8-trillion-in-hidden-debt-with-titanic-risks](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-16/china-may-have-5-8-trillion-in-hidden-debt-with-titanic-risks) ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005/685 "2018-10-18T14:36:03Z")
Alibaba, the world’s largest and most advanced internet retailer, has joined forces with the John Fredriksen owned Marine Harvest to market Norwegian salmon directly to 600 mill. Chinese customers: > **[Alibaba and Marine Harvest partner up to bring fresh salmon to China](https://salmonbusiness.com/alibaba-and-marine-harvest-partner-up-to-bring-fresh-salmon-to-china/)** > > Alibaba’s Win-Chain, one of China’s largest fresh food supply chain platforms and Marine Harvest, the world’s largest producer of farmed Atlantic salmon, made the announcement today. The mega companies signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) to... [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005.md?page=33) [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/understanding-china/45005.md?page=35)