# Ukraine

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271>\
**Category:** Scuttlebutt\
**Created:** [February 12, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271 "2022-02-12T14:55:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/592 "2022-06-27T14:07:20Z")

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Now all we need is a major oil spill and/or blowout in the warzone:

> **[Ukraine hits Black Sea rig for second time - Splash247](https://splash247.com/ukraine-hits-black-sea-rig-for-second-time/)**
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> Ukrainian military forces have attacked a drilling platform in the Black Sea owned by the Crimean oil and gas company, Chernomorneftegaz, marking the second strike against offshore energy infrastructure in Crimea in a week. The helipad of the...

> **[BalticShipping.com](https://www.balticshipping.com/vessel/imo/8763373)**

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**Author:** ![DeckApe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/deckape/32/1271_2.png) [@DeckApe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DeckApe)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/593 "2022-06-28T21:35:36Z")

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Turkey accepts Sweden and the Grand Duchy of Finland into NATO.

> **[Erdogan agrees to NATO expansion at Madrid summit](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/28/erdogan-to-have-bilateral-talks-with-world-leaders-at-nato-summit)**
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> Turkey agreed to lift opposition to Sweden and Finland joining NATO, a breakthrough in an impasse clouding the summit.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/594 "2022-06-28T21:44:27Z")

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> [@DeckApe](#):
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> Grand Duchy of Finland

Putin may want to rewind the clock, but the Finn are not too keen on that:

> **[Emergeance of Finland](https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/FeaturesEurope/ScandinaviaFinland.htm)**
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> When Sweden lost its position as a great power in the early eighteenth century, Russia conquered Finland in the 1808-1809 war with Sweden.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/595 "2022-06-28T21:46:53Z")

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Jens has the brightest smile of them all.  
Maybe he can quit at NATO and return to Norway this is done.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:11am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/596 "2022-06-29T10:11:16Z")

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Russia to strengthen borders to Nordic countries:

> **[Nikolai Patrushev: border to Nordic countries must be strengthened](https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2022/06/nikolai-patrushev-border-nordic-neighbours-must-be-strengthened)**
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> The protection of national interests in the border areas is gaining extraordinary importance, says Secretary of Russia's Security Council.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/597 "2022-06-29T15:06:29Z")

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Sanctions affect normal delivery of food and other necessities to the Russians and Ukrainians that live in Barentsburg on Spitsbergen, Svalbard:

> **[Russia threatens retaliation against Norway over access to Arctic islands](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/russia-threatens-retaliation-against-norway-over-access-arctic-islands-2781431)**
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> Russia said on Wednesday (Jun 29) that restrictions imposed by Norway were blocking goods for Russian-populated settlements on the Arctic archipelago of Svalbard, and threatened unspecified "retaliatory measures" unless Oslo resolves the issue....

That probably includes sunblock cream, since Svalbard has 24 hrs./d sunshine and +15C at the moment.

Update:

> **[Top Russian legislators question Norwegian sovereignty over Svalbard](https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/life-and-public/2022/06/top-russian-legislators-question-norwegian-sovereignty-over-svalbard)**
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> Norway is violating the Svalbard Treaty from 1920, says Deputy Speaker in the Russian Federation Council Konstantin Kosachev following the Nordic country's unwillingness to facilitate transportation of Russian goods to the archipelago.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/598 "2022-06-30T18:50:55Z")

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Begining of something useful??:

> **[Indonesian president offers to take message from Ukraine's leader to Putin](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/indonesian-president-joko-widodo-offers-take-message-ukraine-zelenskyy-putin-2780786)**
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> KYIV: Indonesian President Joko Widodo offered on Wednesday (Jun 29) to deliver a message from Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskyy to Russian leader Vladimir Putin to try to boost peace hopes

> **[Indonesian president says delivers Zelenskyy's message to Putin](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/indonesian-president-joko-widodo-says-delivers-zelenskyy-message-putin-ukraine-russia-2784106)**
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> Indonesian President Joko Widodo said in Moscow on Thursday (Jun 30) he delivered a message from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to Russian leader Vladimir Putin. Putin hosted Widodo more than four months into Moscow's offensive in Ukraine,...

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**Author:** ![cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b77776/32.png) [@cake](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cake)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/599 "2022-07-01T12:49:56Z")

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Who got but hertz at my comment on May 15th? haha It still looks like Russia is mopping the floor. How many more billions should get spent? Anyone one know what the definition of insanity is? good grief

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/600 "2022-07-01T13:02:49Z")

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You worry about money???  
I would rather ask; how many more innocent people are going to die, Ukrainians and Russians?  
How many children need to live as refugees, away from their Father, Grandparents, family, friends and the places they are used to?

> [@cake](#):
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> Anyone one know what the definition of insanity is?

Yes, I think you defined it. 🤢

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**Author:** ![DeckApe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/deckape/32/1271_2.png) [@DeckApe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DeckApe)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/601 "2022-07-01T14:56:22Z")

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> [@cake](#):
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> How many more billions should get spent?

As many billions as it takes.

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/602 "2022-07-01T16:45:59Z")

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> [@cake](#):
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> looks like Russia is mopping the floor

Every day the Ukrainians get stronger, with some of the best weapons in the world flooding into them, gratis. Every day the Russians get weaker, and spend their oil money rearming with old tech, at inflated prices.

The Russians are losing men. Had to scrap their age limits for recruitment. Whereas the Ukraine devoted all but the youngest and oldest men to the fight from the beginning. Millions, who have a reason to fight, and who every day are better trained and more experienced. Home court advantage.

Historical analogue: The British kicked American ass for 5 years beginning in 1775, and captured American cities. World commodity prices rose. Plainly, it was insane to fight against a superpower. The tide turned when another superpower (France) donated cash, weapons, and advisors to the Americans. Even then the war dragged on another 3 years

Putin may need a bigger mop…

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**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/603 "2022-07-01T17:31:41Z")

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> [@cake](#):
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> Who got but hertz at my comment on May 15th? haha

Is this an electrical question?

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/604 "2022-07-01T17:34:12Z")

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> [@tengineer1](#):
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> Is this an electrical question?

I found it shocking, myself.

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**Author:** ![Hornblower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecccb3/32.png) [@Hornblower](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hornblower)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/605 "2022-07-01T18:07:23Z")

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I get a buzz out of some of the responses.

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**Author:** ![cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b77776/32.png) [@cake](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cake)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/606 "2022-07-01T18:13:50Z")

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Let me guess, cnn is always on in the mess room? Or is the potable water contaminated?  
Here is a blog for the others who want to know.

> **[Ukraine War & Aftermath](https://thedreizinreport.com)**
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> A No Propaganda Zone

In fact the west has shot itself in the foot on this one. Maybe just keep redrawing imaginary lines in the sand. Hey if it didn’t work the first time, do it again and again. Well i’m off to take a few boosters so I can virtual signal to my co-workers. JJ, moderna heck whatever I can find. Same people post here every day it seems, must be laid up I wrecken with a overloaded suspenders and belt.

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/607 "2022-07-01T18:28:09Z")

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> [@Hornblower](#):
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> I get a buzz out of some of the responses.

I am currently alternating between laughter and boredom.

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**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/608 "2022-07-01T19:00:38Z")

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> [@freighterman1](#):
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> am currently alternating between laughter and boredom.

So you hertz about 60?  
I wrecken you’ll be OK.

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/609 "2022-07-01T19:04:50Z")

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> [@tengineer1](#):
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> So you hertz about 60?  
> I wrecken you’ll be OK.

Some guys show resistance to grammar 'n spellin 'n such.

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**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/610 "2022-07-01T19:18:05Z")

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> [@freighterman1](#):
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> Some guys show resistance to grammar 'n spellin 'n such.

Not their fault and I hope they have a sense of humor. I don’t have much patience with bad ciphering but diction and spelling gets a pass.

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ukraine/62271/611 "2022-07-01T19:20:45Z")

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> [@tengineer1](#):
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> I hope they have a sense of humor.

I try to conduct myself with humor. It insulates me from the sad state of the world. But bound to generate hertz feelings in some people.

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