# Two offshore wind deals could be milestones **URL:** \ **Category:** Maritime News\ **Created:** [August 4, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662 "2017-08-04T01:37:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/63 "2017-08-04T23:08:41Z")
> **[Wind power in North Dakota](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_North_Dakota)** > > North Dakota is a leading U.S. state in wind power generation, producing 6.34 billion kilowatt-hours, 17.5 percent of all in state generated electricity in 2014. As of the end of 2014, 1,886 megawatts (MW) of generation capacity had been installed for wind power in North Dakota. Additional capacity is limited by transmission line constraints. Completion of a transmission line from Fargo to central Minnesota in 2015 will alleviate the problem. Very favorable wind conditions in the state enable win... ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/64 "2017-08-04T23:09:41Z")
> **[Wind power in Colorado](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Colorado)** > > The US state of Colorado has vast wind energy resources and the installed capacity of wind power in Colorado has been growing significantly in recent years due federal incentives for wind power and the state's aggressive renewable portfolio standard that requires 30% of the state's electricity to come from renewable sources by 2020. Wind power is the source of more than 15 percent of the electricity generated in Colorado. ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/65 "2017-08-04T23:11:29Z")
Rules can and do change over time, especially environmental rules. Lots of people have bought the house lot of their dreams on the ocean or a lake with plans to build in the future. A few years later they find out they cannot build on their lot because the rules have changed to protect the environment. Same for the companies that built coal fired power plants, then the rules changes such that it is not economically feasible to install newly required emissions controls. Same with Shell, sure you can drill in the Chukchi Sea, but now that you are here, you cannot make any noise that might bother the Whales, only one rig can drill at a time, etc.etc. etc . So far the courts have allowed these rule changes. I bet it’s the same in Norway. ---
**Author:** ![Kraken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Kraken](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kraken)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/66 "2017-08-04T23:11:37Z")
Dear god, can you not collect it in one post? ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/67 "2017-08-04T23:16:34Z")
Nope! Trying to derail this particular thread ---
**Author:** ![Kraken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Kraken](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kraken)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/68 "2017-08-04T23:17:02Z")
> [@cchick001](#): > > Nope! Trying to derail this particular thread Why? ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/69 "2017-08-04T23:17:21Z")
> **[Wind power in South Dakota](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_South_Dakota)** > > The state of South Dakota is a leader in the U.S. in wind power generation with over 25% of the state's electricity generation coming from wind in 2015. South Dakota has 583 turbines with a total capacity of 977 megawatts (MW) of wind generation capacity. South Dakota is one of the country's windiest states, and has the potential of installing 882,000 MW, and generating 2,902 billion kWh/year. Just as in Texas, the construction of new wind farms is transmission line limited. South Dakota's first ... ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/70 "2017-08-04T23:17:50Z")
And when I’m done with wind I’ll start with solar! ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/71 "2017-08-04T23:18:45Z")
> **[Solar power in Colorado](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Colorado)** > > Solar power in Colorado has grown rapidly, partly because of one of the most favorable net metering laws in the country, with no limit on the number of users. Colorado was the first state where Dow introduced their solar shingles. General Electric is planning on building a solar panel plant in Aurora, Colorado, to produce 400 MW of thin film CdTe panels each year, but has delayed construction for at least 18 months with the drop in worldwide photovoltaics prices. The largest solar installation co... ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/72 "2017-08-04T23:22:30Z")
Why indeed? p.s. Don’t be too hard on our Norwegian friends. ---
**Author:** ![Kraken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Kraken](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kraken)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/73 "2017-08-04T23:23:00Z")
> **[3 Developers Expected To Bid For The State's First Offshore Wind Farm](https://www.wbur.org/news/2017/06/30/developers-mass-offshore-wind-farm)** > > Utilities are asking developers to bid on a contract to build the state's first offshore wind farm. > It’s a very big deal. It’s a very big deal. It’s a great opportunity to scale new business," Rothstein says. “And if Massachusetts is one of the first hubs for this kind of activity then Massachusetts companies will have the expertise over the whole Eastern region of the U.S.” > > **A local supply chain does not exist yet, so the first wind farm off the coast of Massachusetts will largely be built with parts from Europe. Those generators and blades are enormous and getting bigger. The biggest turbines in Europe, which now produce electricity that’s cost competitive with fossil fuels, are taller than New England’s highest building (formerly called Hancock Tower).** > > The cost of getting the machines here will be very expensive. > > Jeff Grybowski, head of Deepwater Wind, one of the companies competing for the Massachusetts offshore contract, says that a homegrown supply chain makes sense in the long run. > > **“We’re at the beginning of an industry that I think will be built out over decades and decades and that’s a good thing because what we’d like to do as an industry is to build a few projects up and down the coast, every two years,” Grybowski says. “So we’re talking about an industry that will sustain jobs for decades.”** > > The promise of sustainable jobs, a sustainable industry and sustainable energy — a triple bottom line now in the works off, and on the coast, of Massachusetts. > > “This competition that’s happening in Massachusetts is really a key to what happens in the U.S. and that will be a watershed moment for our industry,” Grybowski says. > > The winning bid will be announced next summer, with the first steel in the water a year or two later. > While Massachusetts’ goal for offshore wind over the coming decade is ambitious, it pales in comparison to Europe, where offshore wind over the last 25 years has become a **$100 billion industry.** ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/74 "2017-08-04T23:25:07Z")
Well, also trying to prove a point - I keep getting called out of touch with the world because it’s my opinion that offshore wind in the US really isn’t going to kick off the way it is in Europe. I’ll be nice to them if they be nice to me! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kraken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Kraken](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kraken)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/75 "2017-08-04T23:26:10Z")
> [@tugsailor](#): > > p.s. Don’t be too hard on our Norwegian friends. You must be joking, cchick001 is a pipsqueak. Lots of feathers and noise but no substance. ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/76 "2017-08-04T23:29:05Z")
> **[Solar power in Arizona](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Arizona)** > > Solar power in Arizona has the potential to, according to then-Governor Janet Napolitano, make Arizona "the Persian Gulf of solar energy". In 2012, Arizona had 1,106 MW of photovoltaic (PV) solar power systems, and 6 MW of concentrated solar power (CSP), bringing the total to over 1,112 megawatts (MW) of solar power. The Solana Generating Station is a 280 MW parabolic trough solar plant which is the largest plant of its type in the world. Solana includes 6 hours of power storage by molten s A Ren... ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/77 "2017-08-04T23:29:34Z")
> **[Solar power in Nevada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Nevada)** > > Solar power in Nevada has been growing, due to a Renewable Portfolio Standard which requires 20% renewable energy by 2015, and 5% from solar power. Nevada, at the end of 2007, became home to then-largest photovoltaic power plant in the world, the 14.2 megawatt (peak) Nellis Solar Power Plant, which, by selling the renewable energy credits (RECs), was able to provide Nellis Air Force Base with electricity for only 2.2 cents/kWh, compared to the 9 cents they are paying Nevada Power. Since the Nevad... ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/78 "2017-08-04T23:29:52Z")
Sticks and stones my Norwegian Friend! ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/79 "2017-08-04T23:30:31Z")
> **[Solar power in California](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_California)** > > Solar power in California has been growing rapidly because of high insolation, community support, declining solar costs, and a Renewable Portfolio Standard which requires that 33% of California's electricity come from renewable resources by 2020, and 50% by 2030. Much of this is expected to come from solar power. In 2016, California reported a total of 19,783 GWh in solar electricity generation, approximately 9.97% of all electricity produced. This represented 35.8% of the state's non-hydro renew... ---
**Author:** ![cchick001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cchick001](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cchick001)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/80 "2017-08-04T23:31:59Z")
> **[Solar power in New Jersey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_New_Jersey)** > > Solar power in New Jersey has been aided by a Renewable Portfolio Standard which requires that 22.5% of New Jersey's electricity come from renewable resources by 2021, and by one of the most favorable net metering standards in the country, along with Arizona, allowing unlimited customers of any size array to use net metering, although generation may not exceed annual demand. Best practices recommend limiting net metering only to the size of the customer’s service entrance capacity (i.e. no limit)... ---
**Author:** ![Kraken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Kraken](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kraken)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/81 "2017-08-04T23:45:31Z")
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**Author:** ![captjacksparrow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/captjacksparrow/32/290_2.png) [@captjacksparrow](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/captjacksparrow)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662/82 "2017-08-04T23:50:37Z")
> [@tugsailor](#): > > If we American taxpayers are going to pay for another government corporate welfare program. It should be a program that benefits Americans, not European industry and their foreign workers. I’m assuming that when you’re referring to a government corporate welfare program you’re referring to one besides the longest one running, Big Oil, right? [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/two-offshore-wind-deals-could-be-milestones/45662.md?page=5)