# Trump Says He Told Navy to ‘Shoot Down’ Iranian Boats

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103>\
**Category:** Scuttlebutt\
**Created:** [April 22, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103 "2020-04-22T17:23:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lee\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Lee\_Shore](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Lee_Shore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/1 "2020-04-22T17:23:47Z")

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> **[Tehran Launches Military Satellite as Trump Tells Navy to ‘Shoot Down’...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/ar-BB132D1c?li=BBnb7Kz)**
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> The president’s statement came a week after the Pentagon accused Iran of sending 11 fast boats to conduct “dangerous and harassing approaches” to six American warships in the Persian Gulf.

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**Author:** ![DavidMT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@DavidMT](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DavidMT)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/2 "2020-04-22T18:15:58Z")

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Iranian zeppelins are very dangerous

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**Author:** ![DeckApe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/deckape/32/1271_2.png) [@DeckApe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DeckApe)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/3 "2020-04-22T19:26:44Z")

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The administration is going to push every hot-button it can find in hopes that one of them will distract from endless COVID bad news. Provoking Iran will be one of the buttons.

I’d expect the United States to provoke Iran repeatedly until they retaliate. That would give the United States grounds for a lopsided military response to bring about a patriotic wave of support by Republicans. Basically I expect the President to kill Iranians to bolster his re-election chances.

(I also expect he will kill Americans via his support for the Free-the-States movements so it’s not like he’s only picking on foreigners.)

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Lee\_Shore](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Lee_Shore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/4 "2020-04-22T19:41:29Z")

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The Mother of all distractions. Bolton must be dancing a little jig right now.

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**Author:** ![ocnslr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@ocnslr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ocnslr)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/5 "2020-04-22T20:25:54Z")

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> [@DeckApe](#):
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> Basically I expect the President to kill Iranians to bolster his re-election chances.
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> (I also expect he will kill Americans via his support for the Free-the-States movements so it’s not like he’s only picking on foreigners.)

Exactly. His sycophant Brian Kemp is first in line to sacrifice Georgians on the altar to Trump.

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**Author:** ![Hawespiper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@Hawespiper](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hawespiper)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/6 "2020-04-22T21:45:02Z")

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> [@DeckApe](#):
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> Provoking Iran will be one of the buttons.

Who’s provoking who here? The actions of those gunboats is not provoking??

As you work for MSC, I was surprised to hear you say this. I know if I was signed on to the Puller or one of those other vessels that have been buzzed in close quarters I’d be happy to know the administration has my back. Do we need to wait until one of those boats is actually manned by one of Iran’s proxies and conducts a suicide attack before we take this shit seriously??

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**Author:** ![Kraken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Kraken](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kraken)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/7 "2020-04-22T22:28:49Z")

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> [@Hawespiper](#):
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> Do we need to wait until one of those boats is actually manned by one of Iran’s proxies and conducts a suicide attack before we take this shit seriously??

Yes, if you want the rest of the civilized world on your side you need them to attack first.

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**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/8 "2020-04-22T22:33:32Z")

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The “Cole” families might agree with that policy. Just sayin

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**Author:** ![CoastalTrader](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/coastaltrader/32/71776_2.png) [@CoastalTrader](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CoastalTrader)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/9 "2020-04-22T22:47:59Z")

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I just want to see one of these “flying gunboats”. 8-^) It would make a heckuva RC model. Maybe I’ll make one…

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**Author:** ![Hawespiper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@Hawespiper](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hawespiper)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/10 "2020-04-22T22:51:05Z")

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> [@SeaEagle](#):
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> The “Cole” families might agree with that policy.

Exactly

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**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/11 "2020-04-22T22:51:19Z")

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> [@SeaEagle](#):
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> The “Cole” families might agree with that policy. Just sayin

It’s not a policy, it’s a tweet.

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**Author:** ![Hawespiper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@Hawespiper](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hawespiper)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/12 "2020-04-22T22:57:54Z")

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> [@Kraken](#):
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> rest of the civilized world on your side

So you (as part of the rest of the civilized world) condone the conduct of the Iranian gunboats against US ships sailing in international waters?

So by “on our side”, what do you pledge to do when one of them conducts a suicide attack on a US flag vessel in international waters? How many Euros per US citizen killed? How many Euros per dollars of value lost? Please define how “on our side” will manifest itself.

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**Author:** ![Kraken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Kraken](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kraken)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/13 "2020-04-22T23:03:30Z")

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> [@Hawespiper](#):
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> So you (as part of the rest of the civilized world) condone the conduct of the Iranian gunboats against US ships sailing in international waters?

No, but you cannot just start shooting on other nations vessels without a good reason.

> **[Iran Air Flight 655](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655)**
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> Iraqi invasion of Iran (1980)
> Stalemate (1981)
> Iranian offensives to free Iranian territory (1981–82)

> [@Hawespiper](#):
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> So by “on our side”, what do you pledge to do when one of them conducts a suicide attack on a US flag vessel in international waters? How many Euros per US citizen killed? How many Euros per dollars of value lost? Please define how “on our side” will manifest itself.

I will keep well clear of the Persian gulf and watch the fireworks. That mess is your own.

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**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/14 "2020-04-22T23:06:14Z")

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Policy, Tweet or whatever. I am all for it, as I suppose are the families of the “Cole” and our sailors operating in the area. If a “Tweet” gets them to back off, that’s fine with me.

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Lee\_Shore](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Lee_Shore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/15 "2020-04-22T23:08:49Z")

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> [@Hawespiper](#):
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> Who’s provoking who here? The actions of those gunboats is not provoking??

I agree. Trump’s pronouncements aside, this is a dangerous game and we are not the bad guys here. From a military standpoint, this is more than harmless harassment. It’s also a way to tactically rehearse having one of them launched loaded with explosives at a ship. Coincidence, or maybe not, China just blew a Vietnamese fishing vessel out of the water in the South China Sea where it is actively ramping up its activities there with the Roosevelt out of the picture.

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**Author:** ![Hawespiper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@Hawespiper](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hawespiper)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/16 "2020-04-22T23:10:23Z")

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> [@Kraken](#):
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> keep well clear of the Persian gulf

That’s my point… The rest of the world (civilized or otherwise) aren’t going to do shit. Which is why we should return the favor and let the European Union take over the UN, the WHO, and every other WGO (world globalist organization). The cost/benefit equation just doesn’t work out at this point.

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**Author:** ![Kraken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Kraken](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kraken)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/17 "2020-04-22T23:13:29Z")

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> [@Hawespiper](#):
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> That’s my point… The rest of the world (civilized or otherwise) aren’t going to do shit.

Why should we? No nation around the Persian Gulf want us there.

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**Author:** ![Hawespiper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@Hawespiper](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hawespiper)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/18 "2020-04-22T23:19:30Z")

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> [@Kraken](#):
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> should we?

Yes…no… Even if you did want to intervene what could you do? How many competitive surface combatants do you have? Aircraft carriers? Submarines that can operate autonomously in that area? Gen4/gen5 fighters? Tactical bombers? Why should I (or any other US citizen) give A SHIT about what you, your country, or your continent think about what we do in that region our any other?

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Lee\_Shore](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Lee_Shore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/19 "2020-04-22T23:22:50Z")

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> [@Hawespiper](#):
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> if I was signed on to the Puller

I was told the pins were pulled out and they were manned.

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**Author:** ![Hawespiper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@Hawespiper](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hawespiper)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/trump-says-he-told-navy-to-shoot-down-iranian-boats/55103/20 "2020-04-22T23:24:28Z")

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As well they should have been with craft that close aboard… Problem is, if that craft was loaded with explosives with a suicide crew, it would have done no good

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