# This is what you could call a tight fit **URL:** \ **Category:** Maritime News\ **Created:** [July 4, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526 "2022-07-04T16:39:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dutchie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dutchie/32/170_2.png) [@Dutchie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Dutchie)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526/1 "2022-07-04T16:39:19Z")
> Steady as she goes… I don’t get it. Is this a barge loaded with containers? No room for a wheelhouse I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@Bruce1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bruce1)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526/2 "2022-07-09T13:49:04Z")
i dont see twist locks and they are not lashed down, probably all MT’s going back to the terminal from up river in some places short sea shipping works. the deck hand on the top of one container doesn’t seem too concerned ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526/3 "2022-07-10T12:13:38Z")
7 posts were split to a new topic: [Short Sea Shipping](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/short-sea-shipping/63581) ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526/4 "2022-07-10T12:46:27Z")
> [@Bruce1](#): > > the deck hand on the top of one container doesn’t seem too concerned That may be the Skipper, Since the telescopic wheelhouse is lowered, he give orders from there. (Or maybe he uses a remote control unit, if this is one of the newer and better equipped inland ships/push tugs) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/b/a/ba6a6f683c270b7a5529ec1fb52bf3a4d2e1807c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bruce1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@Bruce1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bruce1)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526/5 "2022-07-10T13:28:10Z")
Very interesting tug looks like it fits into a notch in the barge as I don’t see facing wires Purpose built so it obviously makes money on that side of the world Integrated tugs and barges on the west coast of California are used to Haul petroleum It’s a rule beater as the manning requirements are less for this type of vessel And at 600 ft they can hold a lot of barrels ---
**Author:** ![DamnYankee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/damnyankee/32/514_2.png) [@DamnYankee](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DamnYankee)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526/6 "2022-07-10T13:41:34Z")
They are mostly single hull, not tug and barge designs. Very nice vessels typically. The ones I’ve been aboard (mostly bunker barges) have very nice accommodations and families live aboard them. European short sea shipping is really impressive. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526/7 "2022-07-10T14:01:26Z")
To avoid the ire of moderators I’ll answer in the new Short Sea Shipping thread. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@Bruce1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bruce1)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526/8 "2022-07-10T14:22:55Z")
Like the canal barges of old. Pretty cool. Family operators so maintenance is probably above average The us coast guard and the large tug operators have driven 90% of the mom and pop family owned companies out of business in the US I was at the tail end of the family owned businesses. Very proud people it’s was too bad ---
**Author:** ![Urs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/958977/32.png) [@Urs](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Urs)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/this-is-what-you-could-call-a-tight-fit/63526/9 "2022-07-10T15:40:37Z")
> [@Bruce1](#): > > i dont see twist locks and they are not lashed down, probably all MT’s… I do not see the necessity to lock down the containers. These are not ships that go near coastal, nor are they trucks. They work in the mainly flat regions of Europe, in more or less tortuous rivers or canals with small depths, there are no large lakes that could induce a significant swell. Upriver, near the mountains, the stronger river flows are domesticated with PowerStation dams… and locks. I would only be concerned with the empties; the containers could be blown overboard in a surprising thunderstorm.