# The Norwegians

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882>\
**Category:** Offshore\
**Created:** [April 20, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882 "2018-04-20T15:59:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kingrobby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kingrobby/32/68137_2.png) [@Kingrobby](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kingrobby)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/22 "2018-05-15T21:43:04Z")

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Envious? It’s actually annoyance that you ever started posting here.

Nothing wrong with Norway or anything Norwegians do, loved visiting there when I worked on cruise ships, but someone would most likely feel the same way we do if we went to a foreign chat forum and started espousing the greatness of all things American ad nauseam.

Ahts\_Master made a mistake in his math and because of that mistake he called BS on your article. He acknowledged he made a mistake and then you posted the childish response blaming his mistake on envy. Stop being a thin skinned child.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/23 "2018-05-16T14:29:27Z")

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> [@Kingrobby](#):
>
> Envious? It’s actually annoyance that you ever started posting here.
> 
> Nothing wrong with Norway or anything Norwegians do, loved visiting there when I worked on cruise ships, but someone would most likely feel the same way we do if we went to a foreign chat forum and started espousing the greatness of all things American ad nauseam.

I started posting here because I was hoping to get some insights by professional mariners into why a relatively large and very fast ship like the El Faro ended up being caught in the eye of a hurricane.  
In stead I was met by a stream of insults and doubts about my knowledge of anything maritime (or beyond).  
In stead of just being annoyed and going on to other forums I have kept on posting here, mostly about shipping and the offshore industry in general, but also facts about Norway, Singapore, China and other subject. If that is annoying to you, please don’t open my posts.

BTW; I don’t think this forum is entirely American any more, but if you want to go on a Norwegian forum and post facts about things American, be my guest.

> [@](#):
>
> Ahts\_Master made a mistake in his math and because of that mistake he called BS on your article. He acknowledged he made a mistake and then you posted the childish response blaming his mistake on envy. Stop being a thin skinned child.

If I was thin skinned I would have left this forum long ago. I’m pretty sure Ahts Master understood that I was pulling his leg about being “envious” of the fact that those 5 AHTSs could muster “unbelievable” 150000 Bhp.  
If not, I think he is capable of telling me himself.

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**Author:** ![Kingrobby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kingrobby/32/68137_2.png) [@Kingrobby](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kingrobby)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/24 "2018-05-16T15:05:47Z")

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Yawn.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/25 "2018-05-16T15:13:33Z")

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> [@Kingrobby](#):
>
> Yawn.

Come on man, is that the best you could muster???

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/26 "2018-05-17T12:35:58Z")

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Hip, hip, Hurraaaa!!! Today is Norwegian National Day.  
Gratulere med Dagen to all Norwegian members and guests on this forum.  
The day is celebrated by Norwegians all over the country and the world with parades, flags, sausages and ice cream.

But the biggest parade is that in Oslo, where the King and Royal family greets the parade from the balcony of the castle:

 ![high_tcda5102](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/2X/2/2489e5c6af1f36349a63412bb817f5944a1f0812.jpg)

It is not a military parade but a parade of mostly children “marching” up Karl Johan in a somewhat disorderly fashion to greet their King and Queen:

 ![bd7b1dfd-6741-4b6f-9bbf-291fed359ac5](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/2X/1/16447c9288cf3000a09443b0a5058724806d3d98.jpg)

It is an all inclusive affair, with a lot of people dressed in traditional Norwegian “Bunad”, but also people in hijab and other “foreign” garb. (Even some with “Bunad” and Hijab):

> **[Innvandrere flest feirer 17. mai](https://www.nrk.no/17mai/innvandrere-flest-feirer-17.-mai-1.11021181)**
>
> Ni av ti ikke-vestlige innvandrere feiret 17. mai i fjor. De er like positive til feiringen som etniske nordmenn, viser en undersøkelse.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/27 "2018-05-22T20:12:08Z")

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From Royals and National day to a royal fight over use of foreign crews on a ship under NIS flag cruising in Svalbard:

> **[Ap reagerer på hurtigruteseilas til Svalbard](https://www.smp.no/ntb/innenriks/2018/05/20/Ap-reagerer-p%C3%A5-hurtigruteseilas-til-Svalbard-16736761.ece)**
>
> Arbeiderpartiet vil undersøke om Hurtigruten har lov til å legge ut på ekspedisjonscruise til Svalbard uten at mannskapet får norske lønns- og arbeidsvilkår.

  
The sticky question: Is Svalbard really Norwegian territory??

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/28 "2018-05-22T21:03:39Z")

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Welcome to the Kirkenes Snow Hotel for a cool stay:  
[https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/content/kirkenes-snow-hotel](https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/content/kirkenes-snow-hotel)

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/29 "2018-06-18T17:40:17Z")

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Equinor (ex Statoil) has awarded NOK 30 Bn. contracts for drilling and well service on the Norwegian shelf to three companies; Baker Hughes Norge, Halliburton AS and Schlumberger Norge AS:

> **[Awarding drilling and well service contracts worth NOK 30 billion - Awarding...](https://www.equinor.com/en/news/18jun2018-awarding-drilling-well-service-contracts.html)**
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> Equinor is awarding new service contracts to Baker Hughes Norge, Halliburton AS and Schlumberger Norge AS for integrated drilling and well services on most of the Equinor-operated fields on the Norwegian continental shelf.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/30 "2018-06-20T10:13:38Z")

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Another American company is favoured and rewarded with a major contract by Equinor:

> **[Equinor og Microsoft inngår milliardsamarbeid](https://sysla.no/offshore/equinor-og-microsoft-med-milliardsamarbeid/?utm_source=pushvarsel)**
>
> Nå skal selskapet bygge datasentre for Equinor i Stavanger og Oslo.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/31 "2018-06-20T12:05:44Z")

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Shell is selling Draugen and Gjoea Fields in the Norwegian sector to Okea:

> **[Okea kjøper Shell-virksomhet for 4,5 milliarder](https://sysla.no/offshore/okea-kjoper-norske-shells-virksomhet-pa-norsk-sokkel-45-milliarder/?utm_source=pushvarsel)**
>
> Blir operatør på Draugen.

Okea AS: [https://okea.no/](https://okea.no/)

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/32 "2018-07-08T22:17:39Z")

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I received the below in an e-mail from my oldest son back in 2002.

> [@](#):
>
> **YOU KNOW YOU’VE BEEN IN NORWAY TOO LONG WHEN:**
> 
> 1. You start to believe that if it wasn’t for Norway’s efforts the world  
> would probably collapse pretty soon.
> 
> 2. You can only buy your own drink at the bar even when you are with a  
> group of people.
> 
> 3. You can’t remember to say “please” and “excuse me”.
> 
> 4. You always prepare to catch the closing door if following closely behind  
> somebody.
> 
> 5. When a stranger on the street smiles at you, you assume that:
> 
> a) he is a drunk  
> b) he is insane  
> c) he is American  
> d) he is all of the above
> 
> 1. Silence is fun.
> 
> 2. You use “mmmm” as a conversation filler.
> 
> 3. You think there is no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing.
> 
> 4. You know Norway’s results in the last three years in the Melody Grand  
> Prix Song-contest (Eurovision).
> 
> 5. It seems nice to spend a week in a small wooden cottage up the  
> mountains with no running water/loo and no electricity.
> 
> 6. You know at least five different words for describing different kinds of snow.
> 
> 7. An outside temperature of 9 degrees Celsius (ca 45F) is mild - in mid June.
> 
> 8. You know the difference between blue and red ski wax.
> 
> 9. You don’t fall over when walking on ice.
> 
> 10. You associate Friday afternoon with a trip to Vinmonopolet  
> (Government liquor store).
> 
> 11. You think nothing of paying 400 NOK (ca $ 50)on drinks one night.
> 
> 12. You know that “religious holiday” means “lets’ get pissed”.
> 
> 13. You find yourself more interested in the alcohol content than in the name  
> of the wine.
> 
> 14. You enjoy the taste of lutefisk (jelly-like, bad-smelling fish).
> 
> 15. You think it’s acceptable to wrap your hot dog on a cold pancake.
> 
> 16. You associate warm rice porridge with Saturday and Xmas-eve.
> 
> 17. You can prepare fish in five different ways without cooking it.
> 
> 18. You don’t question the habit of always making “matpakke”  
> (Sandwiches wrapped in paper).
> 
> 19. It feels as natural to wear sport clothes and backpack in the Cinema as  
> everywhere else.
> 
> 20. You find yourself speaking halfway Swedish with Swedes.
> 
> 21. You can’t understand why foreigners haven’t heard about Bjorn Daehlie.
> 
> 22. You know the meaning of life has something to do with the word  
> “koselig” (cozy).

He had been in Northern Norway training fresh recruits for too long and missed being in a war zone I believe.

PS\> He is now in South Sudan as Security Manager for an NGO, which suits him better.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/33 "2018-07-16T21:21:50Z")

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This Thursday 18. July will be a busy day in Aalesund with 5 cruise ships in town:  
Ship: ETA: ETD: From: To:  
KONINGSDAM 18.07.2018 08:00 18.07.2018 17:00 Brønnøy Flåm  
MEIN SCHIFF 1 18.07.2018 08:00 18.07.2018 18:00 Bergen Geiranger  
Prinsendam 18.07.2018 09:00 18.07.2018 23:00 Amsterdam Longyearb.  
Star Breeze 18.07.2018 13:00 18.07.2018 22:00 Flåm Svolvær  
AIDABELLA 18.07.2018 14:00 18.07.2018 19:00 Eidfjord Hellesylt

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**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/34 "2018-07-18T07:38:28Z")

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can the 2 props load all 4 mains and the other gen sets?

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**Author:** ![Tellarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Tellarian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tellarian)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/35 "2018-07-18T10:51:02Z")

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> [@ombugge](#):
>
> Welcome to the Kirkenes Snow Hotel for a cool stay:

Have been there in January loading Iron Ore, no need for a snow hotel then! The northern Lights were worth the cold.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/36 "2018-07-18T11:39:17Z")

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Here from S.Vega spec sheet:

> [@](#):
>
> **Power and Propulsion**  
> Main engines 2 x Wartsila 16V32 7,680 kW each H+H Catalysts fitted Bollard pull 350 t  
> Generators Main 4 x Wartsila 8L26 2,600kW each Harbour / Emergency 1 x Nogva 335 kW  
> Thrusters  
> Bow 2 x Lips 1,500 kW 1 x Retract 1,500 kW  
> Stern 2 x Wartsila Lips Tunnel 1,500 kW each

Looks like a fairly conventional arrangement. It does not say anything about any booster motors connected to the shafts taking power from the generators.

The large generating capacity enable full BP while running thrusters. (Nothing said about shaft generators/boosters)

PS\> Maybe this tell you what you want to know??  
DNV-GL machinery specs:  
[http://vesselregister.dnvgl.com/VesselRegister/vesseldetails.html?vesselid=28256](http://vesselregister.dnvgl.com/VesselRegister/vesseldetails.html?vesselid=28256)

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/37 "2018-07-20T10:04:19Z")

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Now the Chinese are encroaching on what has become a major business for Norwegian companies, especially in and around Bergen; seismic data collection and interpretation:

> **[CNPC affiliate secures major survey contract from ADNOC -](https://splash247.com/cnpc-affiliate-secures-major-survey-contract-from-adnoc/)**
>
> Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC) has awarded a major survey contract worth AED5.88bn ($1.6bn) to BGP, a subsidiary of China National Petroleum Company (CNPC). ADNOC claims the survey contract is the world’s largest continuous 3D onshore and...

Two years ago a Chinese seismic vessel did a major 3d survey in the Barents Sea off Russia, but using Kirkenes in Northern Norway as their operating base:

> **[COSL Completes China's First Survey in Arctic Circle](https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/cosl-completes-chinas-first-survey-in-arctic-circle)**
>
> China Oilfield Services Limited (COSL) saw its most advanced 12-streamer seismic vessel HYSY 720 complete a survey of two blocks in the Barents Sea

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 10:38am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/38 "2018-07-20T10:38:06Z")

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But Norway is looking for new adventures on and in the ocean. One such area to develop is deep sea mining:  
[https://www.smp.no/meninger/2018/07/18/En-ny-havnæring-17148390.ece](https://www.smp.no/meninger/2018/07/18/En-ny-havn%C3%A6ring-17148390.ece)

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/39 "2018-08-31T12:39:22Z")

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Aasta Hansteen field is ready to start production soon. First gas expected this autumn:

> **[Grønt lys for Aasta Hansteen](https://sysla.no/offshore/gront-lys-aasta-hansteen/?utm_campaign=2018_Sysla_Nyhetsbrev_Daglig_Fredag_Uke35&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua&referer=eDM_2018_Sysla_Nyhetsbrev_Daglig_Fredag_Uke35&xtor=EPR-40-%5B2018_Sysla_Nyhetsbrev_Daglig_Fredag_Uke35%5D&utm_emailid=10755)**
>
> Oljedirektoratet har gitt samtykke til oppstart for Aasta Hansteen-plattformen. Det er ventet at alt er oppe og går i løpet av høsten.

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/40 "2018-10-03T14:03:52Z")

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Equinor is generous with their workers, giving one free shear for every one they purchase themselves:

> **[5 milliarder til Equinor-ansatte](https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/5-milliarder-til-equinor-ansatte/70278107)**
>
> Siden 2007 har aksjeordningen til Equinor ­kostet olje­selskapet rundt 5 milliarder kroner.

  
Kind of similar to 401K??

PS\> Not sure if this applies only to Norwegian employees, or if it is a worldwide offer.  
Anybody here who work(ed) for Equinor/Statoil USA??

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/the-norwegians/47882/41 "2018-11-10T20:58:20Z")

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I noticed that in Aug.-Sept. there were a lot of RoRo ships from various NATO countries (incl. US ships) visiting places in Norway that seldom see anything bigger than coasters and ferries.  
Presumable this was in preparation for the major NATO exercise Thunder Junction that has been going on for a few weeks and completed 07. Nov.

Today I noticed a Turkish RoRo passing Aalesund and heading to Aandalsnes at the bottom of the Romsdalsfjord, so now there will probably be an exodus of equipment heading back to their home countries. I haven’t seen any US RoRo ships on the AIS yet, but a number of USN ships and some Navy vessels are still around.

Anybody here who have had, or will have, the pleasure of visiting remote villages in Norway with limited facilities in conjunction with this massive logistics exercise?

UPDATE:  
Here is one US Gov. vessel that is in a very small and remote port in Norway right now:

> **[Vessel details for: USNS 1ST LT.BALDOMERO LOPEZ (Logistics Naval Vessel) - IMO...](https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:441898/mmsi:367348000/imo:8302442/vessel:USNS_1ST_LT_BALDOMERO_LOPEZ)**
>
> Vessel details: USNS 1ST LT.BALDOMERO LOPEZ. Discover the vessel's basic Details, including the vessel IMO / vessel MMSI and vessel Call Sign. Type: Logistics Naval Vessel Vessel, Registered in USA. Find dead-weight-tonnage, Gross Tonnage and the...

I don’t think the crew enjoy any shore leave in this place.

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