[QUOTE=Traitor Yankee;78977]I’m all for dark humor, hell its how most of us put up with the any of the idiot clients our vessels have worked for, but even this is in bad taste for me. While I think due to the student accepting his apology immediate dismissal is a bit harsh, but seeing nothing wrong with it is just being a big tough Internet sailor.[/QUOTE]
Do big tough internet sailors need to show their STCW?
I believe it’s a new class coming in with the 2010 amendments
[QUOTE=Traitor Yankee;78982]I believe it’s a new class coming in with the 2010 amendments[/QUOTE]
Badges - Badges - We don’t need no stinking badges
A good account of “what really happened” posted as a comment here http://gcaptain.com/kings-point-superintendant-drops/
The PC crowd and the court of public opinion convict another one. They were so scared of the PR nightmare they 86’d the guy without following their own procedures.
[QUOTE=Mikey;79017]A good account of “what really happened” posted as a comment here http://gcaptain.com/kings-point-superintendant-drops/[/QUOTE]
Thank you, I could post some words about how we, back in Nam, accepted the sad loss of life of one of our squadron mates yet it might not resonate well. What a pity this situation ever left Kings Point.
BTW, you will never have a closer association with anyone (including your wives) than you have with your unit involved in battle.
A question: If this happened at West Point would it ever get traction?
Think about it.
Admiral, you are a West Pointer, any comments?
[QUOTE=Sweat-n-Grease;79025]What a pity this situation ever left Kings Point.[/QUOTE]
Typical overreaction by a dysfunctional cabal so very afraid that they’ll get caught in yet “another” scandal, but I will say this…
[B]that little turd Sashi Kumar needs a swift effing kick to the balls![/B]
I mean the professor apologized and it was accepted…WTF does Kumar have against this hapless guy? Sounds like some vendetta to me…
God…how unbelievably fucked up the whole atmosphere in Wiley Hall must be? The finger pointing, the denials, the buck passing, oh and the backstabbing!
btw Admiral Helis…welcome to the job…how do you like it so far? Admiral? Somebody call the paramedics, the Admiral is catatonic!
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[QUOTE=c.captain;79029]Typical overreaction by a disfunctional cabal so very afraid that they’ll get caught…
[B]little turd Sashi Kumar needs a swift effing kick to the balls[/B]
God…how unbelievably fucked up the whole atmosphere is Wiley Hall must be?[/QUOTE]
Perhaps their Day of Reckoning is closer than we think.
[QUOTE=c.captain;79029]btw Admiral Helis…welcome to the job…how do you like it so far? Admiral? Somebody call the paramedics, the Admiral is catatonic![/QUOTE]
There is a word for what we have seen and are looking at today - [B]BIZARRE[/B]
REPLY C. Captain hold your fire for a minute. If you knew Shashi, you guys would be fast friends. He is the probably the only person in the entire KP administration who has significant actual seagoing experience sailing as master on real commercial ships. He is super smart, competent, levelheaded, and a very decent person. Check out his bio
Dr. Shashi Kumar
Academic Dean and Assistant Superintendent for Academic Affairs.
Dr. Shashi Kumar Dr. Kumar (PhD, University of Wales; MS, Maine Maritime Academy; Graduate, Indian Maritime Academy) joined the Academy in 2007 as the Asst. Superintendent for Academic Affairs (Academic Dean.) He is the founding Dean of the Loeb-Sullivan School of International Business and Logistics at Maine Maritime Academy. Dr. Kumar has an unlimited Master Mariner (UK) certificate of competency and sailed extensively for a decade prior to entering academe. His areas of teaching and research include Maritime Economics and Policies, International Shipping, and Maritime Logistics. He is a founding member of the International Association of Maritime Economists and the International Association of Maritime Universities, and is also affiliated with the Academy of International Business, American Society of Transportation and Logistics, and the Institute for Supply Management (NAPM/ISM).
Dean Kumar’s significant accomplishments include the Transport Review’s first prize for new PhDs in transportation, an award for excellence in teaching, a Sam M. Walton Fellowship (in free enterprise education, 1998-present) as well as the 1997 Maine International Innovator of the Year Award. He is a frequent speaker in key industry events in the U.S. and overseas. Dr. Kumar has published extensively and authors an annual review of the Merchant Marine for the U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings. He serves on the editorial board of the Journal of Maritime Economics and Logistics and the IAMU Journal. He also serves on the Board of Directors of the Maine International Trade Center and the Maine Department of Transportation Freight Advisory Board.
Dean Kumar served as a faculty member at Maine Maritime Academy from 1987 - 2007. He has held visiting professor appointments at the Indian Institute of Management in Ahmedabad, India, Memorial University in St. John’s, NF, Canada, the World Maritime University in Malmo, Sweden, Shanghai Maritime University in Shanghai, China and the Pontifical Catholic University in Ponce, Puerto Rico.
Dean Kumar resides at the Academy with his wife Beena and daughters Kavya and Kamla.
I don’t agree with firing the professor over this stupid comment, but I wasn’t there and I don’t have all the facts, Nor is my thinking constrained by the “reality” (or unreality) of the politically correct academic environment. However, Shashi is one of the good guys at KP.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;79122]He is the probably the only person in the entire KP administration who has significant actual seagoing experience sailing as master on real commercial ships. He is super smart, competent, levelheaded, and a very decent person.[/QUOTE]
I’m sure a decent chap who loves his cricket and all. A fine man for academia where his credentials are exceptional but you and I live in the real world and KP is anything but that. The fact that he has for so long been inside the inner circle of thieves at KP makes him one of the dysfunctional famiglia that continues to be entrenched in the USMMA Administration. This episode only goes to show what a sorry state of affairs the management of that “school” has become. The mere fact that this even became a story shows how any ability to do damage control there is now completely lost as the plane spirals down and down!
A smart person who has other options would have bailed out of that plane when it still has enough altitude for one’s chute to be able to open.
[QUOTE=c.captain;79123]I’m sure a decent chap who loves his cricket and all. A fine man for academia where his credentials are exceptional…[/QUOTE]
He’s the [B][I][U]academic[/U][/I][/B] dean. What would you prefer, an academnian with no maritime experience, or a mariner with no academic experience? An academian with experience as Master seems like unrealistically ideal qualifications.
[QUOTE=jdcavo;79125]What would you prefer, an academian with no maritime experience, or a mariner with no academic experience? An academian with experience as Master seems like unrealistically ideal qualifications.[/QUOTE]
AH! I say nuts to you! He WAS a mariner once upon a time. How many decades since he as on a ship as a master? Sure, that still puts him miles ahead of most there at KP but it hardly makes him a mariner in my book! I mean look at all those bloody degrees he has!..Yes, edumacation is all fine and good but there are people out there who collect diplomas for the sake of them and feel they are superior as a result. It’s not the titles or degrees a person has that measures the worth of their contribution to the world…it is the content of their character (and their ability to pickup hotties anywhere they go)
To my Obi-Wan!
btw…picked that meme for my daughter…she LOL’d when I told her about it! We used to watch M.L.P. a lot when she was a little boo.
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c. captain.
Shashi has only been at KP for FIVE (5) years. They recruited Shashi to try to turn the KP academic program around. They chose him because he is so well connected and so highly regarded in the shipping industry, government, and academia.
Shashi is very committed to maritime education. Frankly, I’ve never understood why Shashi stayed in academia instead of going to Wall Street and becoming a billionaire. I have no doubt that Shashi can do exceptionally well any time and any place — no parachute needed. He’s not just smart, he’s also a very ethical and genuine person. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;79131]c. captain.
Shashi has only been at KP for FIVE (5) years. They recruited Shashi to try to turn the KP academic program around. They chose him because he is so well connected and so highly regarded in the shipping industry, government, and academia.
Shashi is very committed to maritime education. Frankly, I’ve never understood why Shashi stayed in academia instead of going to Wall Street and becoming a billionaire. I have no doubt that Shashi can do exceptionally well any time and any place — no parachute needed. He’s not just smart, he’s also a very ethical and genuine person. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt.[/QUOTE]
OK, but he certainly seems to be a wee bit heavy handed in this case and not too politically astute… Why exactly bring ANY media attention back to KP? Especially if it can be construed as negative attention? I don’t believe the world is going to storm to main gate of the school with torches and pitch forks demanding Sullivan’s head!
I’ll hold any other criticism of Kumar for the time being, but I do not give him a pass for being there only 5 years. A man can resign in protest anytime if he sees unethical or immoral acts taking place.
It certainly does seem like a heavy handed overreaction, so there has to be a lot more to this story than we know. If I had to guess, I’d say it was probably some damn faculty union rep that called the media. (Maybe they are trying to summon the ghost of Albert Shanker for assistance.) I agree with you that this matter should never have escaped beyond the walls of the academy. Unless he has done something else that we don’t know about, I hope the professor keeps his job.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;79131]Shashi is very committed to maritime education. Frankly, I’ve never understood why Shashi stayed in academia instead of going to Wall Street and becoming a billionaire. I have no doubt that Shashi can do exceptionally well any time and any place — no parachute needed. He’s not just smart, he’s also a very ethical and genuine person. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt.[/QUOTE]
Do you really understand, tugsailer, how Wall Street types make their money? Certainly not by starting a successful business manufacturing something. They make it by speculating upon the backs of folks who actually make something. Their types produce nothing except money for themselves.They are parasites. My God, if Kings Point is to survive it dam well better get back to what it was suppose to be, a Merchant Marine Academy, not some highly expensive quasi-military institution where the majority of graduates could give a rats ass about sailing. Kings Point as it exists today should be on the Tea Party cross hairs. It is way too expensive and probably, by most measures, worthless.
Acta Non Verba
super62 - Has the cat got your tongue? You signed on but your only input was to view my profile. Doesn’t matter super62, we are on our way way out. You might have added your thoughts. I took notice of your July 30th, was going to send you a private message but changed my mind, This is an open forum, if you have a god dam thing to say, POST IT.
Folks, I graduated from Kings Point on July 30, 1962.
My point was that he has the smarts and skills to do exceptionally well on Wall Street or anywhere else, but he chose instead to stay at MMA for years, and then to go to KP. That shows quite a commitment to maritime education. I hope he is successful in reforming KP.
I think we could agree that Wall Street has lost interest in long term investing in enterprises that produce things and has become a casino where the game is rigged and the house usually wins (even when they don’t win, the government bails them out). Capital markets are necessary, but high frequency trading is not. A financial transactions tax on short term investments is needed limit the casino approach and encourage long term investing in productive enterprises.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;79152]My point was that he has the smarts and skills to do exceptionally well on Wall Street or anywhere else, but he chose instead to stay at MMA for years, and then to go to KP.[/QUOTE]
That might very well be true, tugsailor, however there of those who wonder if he was at KP for last 5 years he might be part of the problem and not the solution. Granted the rot was well in place before he arrived.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;79152]That shows quite a commitment to maritime education. I hope he is successful in reforming KP.[/QUOTE]
What would be your first comments, your series of advice so to speak, to help him reform KP?
[QUOTE=tugsailor;79152]I think we could agree that Wall Street has lost interest in long term investing in enterprises that produce things and has become a casino where the game is rigged and the house usually wins (even when they don’t win, the government bails them out). Capital markets are necessary, but high frequency trading is not. A financial transactions tax on short term investments is needed limit the casino approach and encourage long term investing in productive enterprises.[/QUOTE]
I would hope we all can agree with your statement, I certainly agree,. Well said !!
I live 2 miles from the theater and I thought it was funny. But then I’m a sailor and a truck driver.
Should say the joke was funny.