# Tankerman

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021>\
**Category:** gCaptain's Job Board\
**Created:** [January 30, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021 "2020-01-30T06:29:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JamelG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@JamelG](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/JamelG)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/1 "2020-01-30T06:29:01Z")

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Does anyone know if Edison Chuest have Tankerman PIC position?

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/2 "2020-01-30T17:47:21Z")

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A vast, vast majority (possibly all) of their vessels don’t require a PIC so for the most part, no.

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**Author:** ![NH\_Domer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/nh_domer/32/8494_2.png) [@NH\_Domer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/NH_Domer)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/3 "2020-01-31T02:02:39Z")

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Why would you want work the oilfield with a PIC?

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**Author:** ![JamelG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@JamelG](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/JamelG)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/4 "2020-01-31T02:42:06Z")

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I work inland. As for as offshore goes, I don’t really know much. I’m just trying to move up the later but also use my PIC while I have. I just got my AB limited. I’ve applied with Reinauer, Bouchard, Vane Bro’s, Crowley, and currently waiting on Kirby to open up a Tankerman PIC position so that I can apply as well to get on ATB’s. What advice can you give me since you asked me that?

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**Author:** ![JamelG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@JamelG](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/JamelG)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/5 "2020-01-31T02:43:20Z")

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Is a PIC not good enough in the oilfield??

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**Author:** ![BargeMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5a626/32.png) [@BargeMonkey](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BargeMonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/6 "2020-01-31T06:11:19Z")

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I dont know about Crowley, maybe Vane, maybe even what used to be “Harley”. I doubt Bouchard is taking anyone and Reinauer probably has 300 applications sitting on her desk right now. You’ve got your ab which is a plus, sort of a minimum anymore. Take this advice but I’ve encountered this with guys from the inland barges, if you get on a big atb doing 2-4 grades, multi point discharges, loading by temp / gross / net, dont lie about your experience because they will sniff you out quick and it might not be good. It’s kind of a rough time in the industry, take whatever you can get and roll with it.

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**Author:** ![JamelG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@JamelG](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/JamelG)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 6:32am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/7 "2020-01-31T06:32:58Z")

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Wow lol. Thank you my brother. This definitely humbled me down. Because I sure as hell made a few adjustments on my applications as far as my experience goes in order to get my foot in the door. After reading this, I definitely don’t mind starting at bottom. You gotta crawl before you walk after all.

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**Author:** ![BargeMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5a626/32.png) [@BargeMonkey](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BargeMonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/8 "2020-01-31T06:38:51Z")

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I edited that a bit because I didnt want to seem like an asshole. Just be decent, if you have questions ask the guys your working with, most are pretty decent I’ve found, never assume anything. It’s not a bad gig, alot depends where you are - East/ West, barges are diff, gear is diff, some of the ways they do stuff is completely diff.

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**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/9 "2020-01-31T14:20:16Z")

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> [@JamelG](#):
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> Does anyone know if Edison Chuest have Tankerman PIC position?

I think they have some tankermen pics on the valdez contract, but otherwise no. They aren’t in the business of loading/discharging red flag barges.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/10 "2020-02-01T02:16:23Z")

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> [@JamelG](#):
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> Is a PIC not good enough in the oilfield??

No boats in the oilfield carry petroleum cargo so they’re no need for people with PIC.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/11 "2020-02-01T02:21:32Z")

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> [@JamelG](#):
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> I just got my AB limited.

Do you have STCW: BT, RFPNW, and Able Seafarer - Deck?

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**Author:** ![JamelG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@JamelG](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/JamelG)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/12 "2020-02-01T02:36:39Z")

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The only credentials I have as of now are: AB limited, life boatman, STCW, and Tankerman PIC (barge). What are other credentials that can be helpful for me?

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**Author:** ![JamelG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@JamelG](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/JamelG)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/13 "2020-02-01T02:37:22Z")

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Thank you Boss.

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**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/14 "2020-02-01T03:16:14Z")

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> [@JamelG](#):
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> What are other credentials that can be helpful for me?

Rating forming part of a nav watch (rfpnw), able seafarer-deck, vpsd…missing a letter somewhere with this acronym, but i am referring to the vessel personnel with security duties endorsement ( security awareness)

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/15 "2020-02-01T03:52:54Z")

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> [@Ctony](#):
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> i am referring to the vessel personnel with security duties endorsement ( security awareness)

Vessel Personnel with Designated Security Duties.

Also, VPDSD and Security Awareness are separate ratings.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/16 "2020-02-01T03:57:20Z")

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> [@JamelG](#):
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> STCW

STCW isn’t a credential. That’s like saying that you have the credential “USCG”.

There are two types of credentials:

1. US domestic - like AB, Tankerman PIC, etc
2. STCW (international) - Rating Forming Part of a Navigational Watch, Able Seafarer - Deck, etc.

You cannot work on boats that fall under STCW without the equivalent STCW endorsement to match your US domestic credentials and basically every ATB falls under STCW.

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**Author:** ![JamelG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@JamelG](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/JamelG)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 5:41am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/17 "2020-02-01T05:41:17Z")

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Thanks again boss. This info is definitely helpful

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**Author:** ![shipengr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/shipengr/32/485_2.png) [@shipengr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/shipengr)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 5:49am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/18 "2020-02-01T05:49:02Z")

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> [@Capt\_Phoenix](#):
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> No boats in the oilfield carry petroleum cargo so they’re no need for people with PIC.

So do the supply boats that refuel the drilling fleet (except _Great Expectations_ I assume) get around needing a PIC by giving fuel only from what they’ve designated as Storage tanks rather than Cargo?

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/19 "2020-02-01T05:57:51Z")

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I think that’s exactly it but I’m not 100% sure.

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**Author:** ![JamelG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@JamelG](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/JamelG)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tankerman/54021/20 "2020-02-01T06:40:04Z")

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Thank you guys. I really appreciate your time and information. It is well needed.

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