# Tanker collision off China **URL:** \ **Category:** Maritime News\ **Created:** [January 7, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982 "2018-01-07T13:17:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CapSparrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CapSparrow](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CapSparrow)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/51 "2018-01-15T18:49:26Z")
On the SB side aft there is a square area of black paint. The temperature in that area was not that high as around that place. Would be interesting to see some heat map. @tupsis the davit is still in upright position so lifeboat has not been launched ---
**Author:** ![KPChief](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kpchief/32/26_2.png) [@KPChief](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/KPChief)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/52 "2018-01-15T18:54:34Z")
An internal tank that allowed some conductive cooling? ---
**Author:** ![Heiwa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/heiwa/32/1054_2.png) [@Heiwa](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Heiwa)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/53 "2018-01-15T18:55:18Z")
I don’t think this picture available on the Internet of the M/T Sanchi burning after the incident is true: [http://heiwaco.com/sanchi118.gif](http://heiwaco.com/sanchi118.gif) . Calm weather. Starboard list. Trim on bow. It is Fake News. Why? ---
**Author:** ![CapSparrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CapSparrow](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CapSparrow)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/54 "2018-01-15T18:56:37Z")
Also the hole at PS side in the middles is Square if it was an explosion it would be not so nice and square ---
**Author:** ![CapSparrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CapSparrow](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CapSparrow)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/55 "2018-01-15T18:58:32Z")
That pic is an other vessel funnel is not correct. My guess reporter doesnt know what to look for so they take another picture of a simular accident but cant say which one ---
**Author:** ![Heiwa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/heiwa/32/1054_2.png) [@Heiwa](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Heiwa)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/56 "2018-01-15T19:00:03Z")
Thanks. But why use old pictures to report on a later incident? ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/57 "2018-01-15T19:07:08Z")
A couple years ago gcaptain had an article written by a USCG expert about a fisherman that fell off a 40’ lobsterboat. The photo he provided was of an 80’ trawler. He didn’t know the difference. It’s rare for news articles written about incidents to be more than 50% accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Tupsis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tupsis](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tupsis)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/58 "2018-01-16T11:25:06Z")
> [@Heiwa](#): > > Oil spills kill sea birds, etc, and the public is very concerned about it. Few gives a damn about seamen. Large crude oil spills may end up costing more lives ashore than on the stricken tanker if the spill devastates the environment by destroying fisheries, tourist industry etc. The nature may eventually recover (or not, depending on the location), but the people whose lifes were affected may not be there to see it. I don’t like comments where either side claims that the other side’s primary concern should be disregarded for one reason or another. Why can’t we look for the missing crew and fight the spill at the same time? It’s not like we can use the resources fully for only other cause. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/59 "2018-01-16T11:36:25Z")
The Iranian view of the event: > **[Sanchi crew stood no hope, says Iran PMO official | IHS Fairplay](https://fairplay.ihs.com/safety-regulation/article/4296331/sanchi-crew-stood-no-hope-says-iran-pmo-official?utm_source=Eloqua&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CL_FDN%20160118_PC9157_e-production_E-5820_FP_0116_0524)** > > Crew members were 'probably sleeping' when the accident happened. ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/60 "2018-01-16T11:57:45Z")
It’s behind a pay wall. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/61 "2018-01-16T13:01:23Z")
OK. Try this one: > **[‘No hope' for sailors as burning oil tanker sinks, Iran official says](https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-oil-tanker-20180114-story.html)** > > A burning Iranian tanker listing for days off the coast of China after a collision with another vessel sank Sunday. PS\> I get 5 free articles a month from Fairplay. Maybe you have used up yours?? ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/62 "2018-01-18T14:06:53Z")
10 posts were split to a new topic: [Maritime Cover-ups](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/maritime-cover-ups/47074) ---
**Author:** ![Snusmumriken](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/snusmumriken/32/856_2.png) [@Snusmumriken](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Snusmumriken)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/63 "2018-01-17T06:27:50Z")
Du har inte alla hästar i hagen, Mr Heiwa 🤔🙁 ---
**Author:** ![Tellarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Tellarian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tellarian)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 7:59am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/71 "2018-01-18T07:59:08Z")
Now one off India > **[Major fire breaks out on Seven Islands Shipping MR tanker -](https://splash247.com/major-fire-breaks-seven-islands-shipping-mr-tanker/)** > > A major fire broke out on yesterday evening around 6pm onboard 2000-built MR tanker while it was anchored off Kandla, India.   The vessel, owned by Mumbai-based Seven Islands Shipping, had been travelling from Mumbai loaded with 30,000 tonnes of... ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/75 "2018-01-18T15:38:43Z")
This is from the[Financial Times,](https://www.ft.com/content/3f40f214-f9f5-11e7-9b32-d7d59aace167) evidently the Sanchi had not been transmitting AIS, that would explain why they’ve not been posted somewhere. > Yet vessel tracking services say the Sanchi was last spotted almost 24 hours prior, off Taiwan’s coast. After this point the tanker’s automatic identification system (AIS) did not appear to submit information. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/76 "2018-01-18T16:00:03Z")
Are there AIS coverage (other than by Satellite) in the East China Sea? Both the Sanchi and CF Crystal appears to have disappeared from publicly available tracking once away from Taiwan and Korea respectively. (Or at least I’m not able to find either) ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/77 "2018-01-18T16:02:53Z")
The AIS track for the CF Crystal was posted in post #32. The FT reports that the Sanchi evidently stopped transmitting about 24 hrs prior to the collision. ---
**Author:** ![KPChief](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kpchief/32/26_2.png) [@KPChief](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/KPChief)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/78 "2018-01-18T16:14:18Z")
> Chinese rescuers Saturday also recovered the tanker’s “black box”, the > transport ministry said without specifying exactly what had been > retrieved. If they have it has any mention been made on whether it is being processed to produce transcript or data? These stories had photos I had not seen before. Which look like hey were taken earlier in the fire. [http://irane-ma.com/en/2018/01/14/sanchi-iranian-oil-tanker-ship-completely-burned-sank-east-china-sea/](http://irane-ma.com/en/2018/01/14/sanchi-iranian-oil-tanker-ship-completely-burned-sank-east-china-sea/) [http://irane-ma.com/en/2018/01/15/names-32-crew-members-killed-sanchi-oil-tanker-disaster/](http://irane-ma.com/en/2018/01/15/names-32-crew-members-killed-sanchi-oil-tanker-disaster/) ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/79 "2018-01-18T16:23:26Z")
From the Google translation of the Chinese text it appears that the track shown for the CF Crystal (green) is projected from the last know position off Korea and the red line is for another tanker (VL Pioneer) that was bound for the same port in Korea as the Sanchi a day or so earlier. Here is what may be the explanation why there are no public record of either ships (Also G.T. from same source): > [@](#): > > It can be seen that the handover of service between the CF CRYSTAL and VL PIONEER wheels (non-accidental vessels) is in the immediate vicinity of the SANCHI (accidental round). CF CRYSTAL rounds the trail between southern South Korea and the coast of China’s East Sea, there is also a long distance without any ais data. Therefore, it can be affirmed that the lack of ais data in the East China Sea is not the reason for the ship itself. > > In order to better understand the abnormal situation in the East China Sea ais data. The author interviewed Zhang Yi, deputy general manager of Shanghai Maaili Ship Technology Co., Ltd., responsible for running [HiFleet.com](http://HiFleet.com) (fleet online), and got the following reply: > > "Because AIS satellites are much taller than shore stations, they can cover a wider range of AIS communications on the sea. Due to too many vessels in Northeast Asia, the signals received by satellites are overloaded at the same time, creating conflicts and blockages, resulting in inability to effectively resolve the data, Forming a “busy area.” Currently, HiFleet can make up for the lack of satellite AIS signals through the function of ship position reporting and maritime satellite position return so as to effectively improve the poor AIS signal in the “busy area”. PS\> With a bit of good will it is possible to understand the meaning. PPS\> [HiFleet.com](http://HiFleet.com) can’t be reached. ---
**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982/80 "2018-01-18T16:48:10Z")
True, they were just guys out making a living and got caught up in a disaster. The world as a whole could not care less. The only concern for most people is a delayed shipment. Their families, the mothers, fathers, wives and children will miss them but that’s about it. Been that way since ships put to sea. [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/tanker-collision-off-china/46982.md?page=4)