# T-ATS Salvage Ships - MSC
**URL:** https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783
**Category:** Professional Mariner Forum
**Created:** [August 4, 2023, 3:15am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783 "2023-08-04T03:15:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Boat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Boat)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2023, 3:15am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/1 "2023-08-04T03:15:22Z")
> **[Austal USA to Build Fifth Navajo-Class Salvage Ship for the U.S. Navy](https://gcaptain.com/austal-usa-to-build-fifth-navajo-class-salvage-ship-for-the-u-s-navy/)**
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> Austal USA has been awarded a fixed-price incentive contract option from the U.S. Navy worth US $71.7 million for the construction of a fifth Navajo-class Towing, Salvage and Rescue Ship....
Anyone have extra insight that wouldn’t be found online on the timeline of these? When they’ll be going into service? How the progress is going down on the Bayou building them? Hard (?) to imagine going on 8 years since they were announced.
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### Author:  [@cali\_deckie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cali_deckie)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/2 "2023-08-04T04:46:56Z")
Word was is that they were being held up due too a lawsuit. Some company was having them built and went bankrupt and MSC was going to modify to suit their needs. From what I have heard that was resolved recently and MSC should get the first Boat end of the year/ early next year.
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### Author:  [@Boat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Boat)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2023, 4:56am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/3 "2023-08-05T04:56:01Z")
Interested to see where they end up. Should be a fun program.
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### Author:  [@Boat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Boat)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/4 "2023-12-24T14:41:20Z")
Anyone got an update on these things?
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### Author:  [@cali\_deckie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cali_deckie)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/5 "2023-12-27T19:08:57Z")
All of the people I know who had been doing tugs quit, so I don’t have the greatest sources. From a manning report I saw, its now January. I wouldn’t be surprised if it slips a month or two more.
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### Author:  [@Boat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Boat)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/6 "2023-12-27T19:44:02Z")
And then no word on the next one after that right? Potentially another year away?
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### Author:  [@cali\_deckie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cali_deckie)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2023, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/7 "2023-12-27T21:47:32Z")
Supposedly it should be quicker than that. Last I heard was 3 by the end of 24. Might end up with 2 with a 3rd out quickly in 25
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### Author:  [@Boat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Boat)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2024, 11:40am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/8 "2024-05-01T11:40:31Z")
Any truth to the rumors that there’s a chance MSC will contract out these new salvage boats to get crewed by another company?
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### Author:  [@Bayrunner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bayrunner)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/9 "2024-05-01T23:34:39Z")
That would probably be smart. Hornbeck and Chouest already crew similar boats for MSC.
The big question is will contract mariners take these things into a potential warzone to grab battle damaged naval vessels at sea?
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### Author:  [@BeerCaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BeerCaptain)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/10 "2024-05-02T00:43:46Z")
> [@Bayrunner](#):
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> The big question is will contract mariners take these things into a potential warzone to grab battle damaged naval vessels at sea?
For the right money, sure.
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### Author:  [@Boat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Boat)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/11 "2024-11-17T14:42:11Z")
Rumors that MSC is contracting the manning of these tugs because they don’t have enough mariners/DPO’s/Engineers? Anyone have info on who will be crewing them? Hearing potentially Union hall or other company. Chouest and Hornbeck allegedly not going to be involved.
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### Author:  [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/12 "2024-11-17T15:18:50Z")
> [@Boat](#):
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> DPO’s
Are these tugs DP?
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### Author:  [@Bayrunner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bayrunner)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/13 "2024-11-17T15:18:51Z")
> [@Boat](#):
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> Chouest and Hornbeck allegedly not going to be involved
That’s surprising considering all the govt work both already do, and they should already have a pool of mariners with the right licenses.
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### Author:  [@Bayrunner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bayrunner)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/14 "2024-11-17T15:20:46Z")
An unlimited licensed mariner with both master of towing and DPO seems like a unicorn situation. I’m sure they are out there though.
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### Author:  [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/15 "2024-11-17T15:37:32Z")
> [@Bayrunner](#):
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> I’m sure they are out there though.
🙋♂️
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### Author:  [@Boat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Boat)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/16 "2024-11-17T15:41:46Z")
Yes they’re DP-2
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### Author:  [@Boat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Boat)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/17 "2024-11-17T15:43:35Z")
I think since they employ all their own boats they don’t want to get into the business of crewing ones that aren’t their own.
None of the gulf companies lend out mariners really. A unique Union situation here because the only bridge guys who will qualify are gulf or large tug Mariners.
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### Author:  [@Gimli](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Gimli)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/18 "2024-11-17T15:44:00Z")
…and the experience to competently operate the vessels. See: Aiviq.
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### Author:  [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/19 "2024-11-17T15:44:02Z")
> [@Boat](#):
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> they’re DP-2
I know they have bow and stern thrusters but I can’t find any mention of them being DP anywhere.
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### Author:  [@Boat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Boat)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/t-ats-salvage-ships-msc/66783/20 "2024-11-17T15:51:33Z")
They are wartsila power package DP2. Designed basically after an AHTS.
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