# Surrender of diego garcia **URL:** \ **Category:** Homepage News\ **Created:** [October 29, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042 "2024-10-29T23:43:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/21 "2024-10-31T01:08:46Z")
My understanding is: the islands where unknown and uninhabited, until the French brought in foreign laborers to work their plantations. The “islanders” that were removed are the descendants of those French laborers. They were not native to those islands. Any country, including the UK or the US, has the right to determine which noncitizens, if any, may live within its territory. And the right to remove noncitizens. Do you think that the Brits gave away Diego without consulting the US? Undoubtedly, our woke US government gave their blessing to this. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/22 "2024-10-31T01:16:06Z")
The brits bought it from Mauritius Removing the people was determined illegal and even the UK high court said the gov has to repatriate or compensate them Made news in the UK as it was the first time the UK gov defied its own High Court The whole story about DG is all about the US base PS every piece of land in the world was uninhabited a few years back. ---
**Author:** ![BeerCaptain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@BeerCaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BeerCaptain)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/23 "2024-10-31T01:50:22Z")
> [@tugsailor](#): > > The “islanders” that were removed are the descendants of those French laborers Those laborers were not French. They were slaves, then after the abolition of slavery they were the descendants of slaves for the most part. Maybe do a little more reading. > [@tugsailor](#): > > Any country, including the UK or the US, has the right to determine which noncitizens, if any, may live within its territory Was the population that was expelled non-citizens? You’re treading dangerously close to a “slaves aren’t citizens” line. > [@tugsailor](#): > > Do you think that the Brits gave away Diego without consulting the US? It’s not the US’ territory so why would they? ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/24 "2024-10-31T02:24:14Z")
The Brit’s would not give away Diego without consulting the US. The US is the important tenant. It’s an important military base for the US. The US is an important British ally. Therefore, the US was seriously consulted about giving away Diego. Former slaves and their descendants are citizens. If French citizens, they should have been removed to France. If British citizens, they should have been removed to the UK. ---
**Author:** ![BeerCaptain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@BeerCaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BeerCaptain)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/25 "2024-10-31T02:33:31Z")
> [@tugsailor](#): > > The Brit’s would not give away Diego without consulting the US. So they consulted and the US said yeah go ahead bc we’re getting a lease and nothings changing. Got it. > [@tugsailor](#): > > Former slaves and their descendants are citizens. Great so then how is > [@tugsailor](#): > > Any country, including the UK or the US, has the right to determine which noncitizens, if any, may live within its territory Relevant? > [@tugsailor](#): > > If British citizens, they should have been removed to the UK. But they weren’t. They were sent to Mauritius or the Seychelles. That’s the issue. They were citizens of a colony that were forcibly exiled to countries that are no longer British colonies but independent nations. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp? ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/27 "2024-10-31T14:32:28Z")
Then when Seychelles and/or Mauritius become independent, they became citizens of those countries. A 99 year lease is not the same thing as a lease in perpetuity. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? Additionally, within a few years the Natives will become restless and start demanding all sorts of foreign aid and welfare programs. Perhaps they may even lease another nearby island to the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, Iranians, Houthis, or some other emerging threat. I wonder what a competent national security professional, like Mike Pompeo or John Bolton, thinks of this deal. ---
**Author:** ![BeerCaptain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@BeerCaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BeerCaptain)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/28 "2024-10-31T14:51:44Z")
> [@tugsailor](#): > > Then when Seychelles and/or Mauritius become independent, they became citizens of those countries. They were independent. Do you know how to use the google machine or are you just arguing for the sake of not admitting you don’t know what you’re talking about? > [@tugsailor](#): > > A 99 year lease is not the same thing as a lease in perpetuity. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? It’s not, I acknowledged the difference here: > [@BeerCaptain](#): > > The Brits technically lose it in 99 years, but yes. > [@tugsailor](#): > > Additionally, within a few years the Natives will become So you admit that there are in fact natives? Doesn’t fit your “non-citizen” argument. > [@tugsailor](#): > > restless and start demanding all sorts of foreign aid and welfare programs. You’re painting with another broad brush, but considering they were exiled unjustly, had their homes destroyed and pets murdered by the US and the Brits they’re probably owed some money which a lot of them still haven’t received. Per Wikipedia: “Fifteen years after the last expulsion, the Chagossians received compensation from the British, totalling $6,000 per person; some Chagossians received nothing. The British expulsion action remains in litigation as of 2016.[[51]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia#cite_note-51)[[52]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia#cite_note-52) Today, Chagossians remain highly impoverished and are living as “marginalised” outsiders on the island of Mauritius and the Seychelles.[[53]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia#cite_note-53)” > [@tugsailor](#): > > Perhaps they may even lease another nearby island to the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, Iranians, Houthis, or some other emerging threat. Well it’s their country so let them. I don’t see you up in arms about how Djibouti hosts a Chinese base within a stones throw of the US base. > [@tugsailor](#): > > I wonder what a competent national security professional, like Mike Pompeo or John Bolton, thinks of this deal. It doesn’t matter because neither of them are making policy decisions at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/29 "2024-10-31T15:01:53Z")
Some were sent to the Seychelles, others were transported to a cold, wet and windy UK: > [@](#): > > The Chagos islanders themselves – some in Mauritius and the Seychelles, but others living in Crawley in Sussex – do not speak with one voice on the fate of their homeland. Source: [UK hands sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98ynejg4l5o) PS\> Mauritius MAY only allow those with Mauritian passports to return to the islands. > [@](#): > > Mauritius itself has suggested that only Chagossians with Mauritian passports will be able to resettle, locking out those now in Britain or the Seychelles. Some Chagossians in Mauritius may well support the deal, but knowing for sure is impossible: Mauritius has criminalised questioning its claim to sovereignty over the islands. This saga began by disregarding the wishes of Chagossians; it looks set to end that way, too. Source: [Britain should not hand the Chagos Islands to Mauritius](https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/10/09/britain-should-not-hand-the-chagos-islands-to-mauritius) ---
**Author:** ![ChaplainDarrell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/chaplaindarrell/32/41200_2.png) [@ChaplainDarrell](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ChaplainDarrell)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/30 "2024-10-31T15:24:35Z")
Since the "indigenous people are also from “somewhere else” and not “native” to North America, they will have to give it back to the bison. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![jdcavo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jdcavo/32/108_2.png) [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/31 "2024-10-31T16:12:03Z")
> [@tugsailor](#): > > A 99 year lease is not the same thing as a lease in perpetuity What about a [9,000 year lease](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_Brewery)? ---
**Author:** ![jdcavo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jdcavo/32/108_2.png) [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/32 "2024-10-31T16:15:57Z")
> [@ChaplainDarrell](#): > > they will have to give it back to the bison Bison are also not native, they got here [the same way](https://www.nps.gov/articles/beringiamegafauna.htm). ---
**Author:** ![txh2oman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee59a6/32.png) [@txh2oman](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/txh2oman)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/33 "2024-10-31T18:19:23Z")
> [@jdcavo](#): > > What about a [9,000 year lease](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_Brewery) I mean, you got national security considerations and then you have the assured supply of Guinness for our lifetimes and for those of our distant descendents. Totally makes sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Hogsnort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@Hogsnort](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hogsnort)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/35 "2024-10-31T19:30:07Z")
The Rift Valley is going to become awfully crowded once we all go back to where we came from. ---
**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/36 "2024-10-31T19:55:11Z")
> [@Hogsnort](#): > > The Rift Valley is going to become awfully crowded once we all go back… Below is the best documentary I’ve heard on the subject. Since the Y chromosome is virtually unchanged generation to generation, the changes that do occur are easy to trace because they’ve so different. Also, super populators usually dropped all their Y chromosome genetic material in one place to make it easy to play connect the dots. This documentary starts in a spot in history when humans had the least amount of Y variants & tracked the movement of humans across the globe. If you believe the science, we’re lucky they did this study now when we just obtained the technology but still not too far into the air travel/easy mass migration age before we all get muddled together making the research impossible. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/7/e/7e9aa049e5edd11bc8e690d8db6cb1ca885b7eb0.jpeg "DNA Mysteries: The Search For Adam (National Geographic Documentary)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNHWYw66sY8) ---
**Author:** ![ChaplainDarrell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/chaplaindarrell/32/41200_2.png) [@ChaplainDarrell](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ChaplainDarrell)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/37 "2024-11-01T12:31:03Z")
I’m 75 years old and learn I still something new every day. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![BeerCaptain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@BeerCaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BeerCaptain)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/38 "2024-11-01T12:39:03Z")
> [@ChaplainDarrell](#): > > learn I still something new every day Grammar not being one you’ve learned yet ---
**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/39 "2024-11-01T13:25:20Z")
Minored in Yoda I did, so understand I do. ---
**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/40 "2024-11-01T14:02:40Z")
> [@BeerCaptain](#): > > Grammar not being one… Classy ---
**Author:** ![jdcavo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jdcavo/32/108_2.png) [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/42 "2024-11-01T15:35:38Z")
> [@freighterman1](#): > > I minored in Yoda Auch in Deutsch akzeptabel. ---
**Author:** ![BeerCaptain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@BeerCaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BeerCaptain)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/surrender-of-diego-garcia/71042/43 "2024-11-01T15:43:08Z")
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