Scuttlebutt filter problem? - Forum Moderation

Swing and a miss.

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Fat chance.

Example here:

Acc to new instructions from High Priest temple @Jughead should create a new thread but He did not.

Once the new thread has been created as an offspring of the old one , I am expecting the old to be closed and locked either in auto mode or manually by one of the " magnificent" FOUR.

I have followed the instruction, created
new follow up thread ,identified all branches of the old thread , added links to them ( 3) and guess what happened?

None of the 3 has been closed & and locked .

The old thread could be closed by the user who created the follow up new thread but ordinary user has no rights to do it.

It all started with " politics" a forbiden item as per FAQ rules , then it morphed into thread AGE issue ( not mentioned in the rules) and finally it has metastasized into some monstrocity wrapped in vagueness .

I think wait and see & watch option is the best but this circus here reminds me of the saying " give sb enough rope and he will hang himself" .
The thing is the rope was not given .
It was taken .
Cheers.

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Another one here.

Solved with respect to daily use. That one must agree.

But the problem was the use in maritime press, publications, investigations, reports and by maritime professionals etc, etc.
For example Dr. SAL latest video regarding Solong v/s Stena. He still insists it was an ALLISION. I am pretty certain He consulted some serious dudes what terminology shall be used before so adamantly insisting it was an ALLISION referring to MAIB interim report where I could not find a word ALLISION. At least in my pdf copy downloaded ASAP when published.
Hence I am not sure about closure and surely the topic will be revisited.
Video on Dr. Sal utube channel.

And here is my little test of this FANEFFINGTASTIC tool added recently, amply demonstrating not all threads receive the same treatment as the two threads exhibited above. Look at the dates of some ancient entries.
The results shall be treated with caution but filtered with such caution for the purposes of forum user, the results are satisfactory.

https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/navigation-threads-open-closed/74280/2?u=spowiednick

Last but not least w/o bias and prejudice and with nothing personal:

Newton’s Third Law of Motion :
states that for every action (force) in nature, there is an equal and opposite reaction. When one object exerts force on another, the second object simultaneously exerts a force of equal magnitude in the opposite direction. Action and reaction forces always occur in pairs.

For those seeing chaos in above a fitting maritime pictorial presentation.

This is Spo signing off with 6th grade science.

Cheers.

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A search for 'forums close old threads" will give results showing various discussions and debates. There are no specific instructions.

When an old thread is revived it gets “bumped” and shows up a 'recent discussion. If the most recent post is moved to create new topic, that old thread still shows up in the feed as “recent”. That old thread can’t be put back in the feed where it belongs so it’s just closed.

If an old thread is not 'bumped" there’s no reason to close it.

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There’s been complaints that the moderation here is driven by a hidden agenda. Apparently that issue has been addressed, at least in part, by using a automated (algorithm) Discourse feature.

It doesn’t make any sense to take the time to close all the old threads, unless there’s some feature to do it with batch processing it’d have to be done one at time, very time consuming.

Edit: Also is it all threads that get closed after 24hrs of inactivity or just the old threads?

On second thought it makes more sense to leave the old threads open. If someone posts on an old thread and nobody else posts for 24 hrs it gets closed. On the other hand if other people are interested and respond the thread stays open until it dies out again.

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Oh my dear God.!!!

What has happened here? This is your private all AMERICAN. forum, paid by American Personality, monitored, censored by American entities, watched by at least 4 High Priests and

TWO bloody foreigners are on the podium???

OK. one is a civilised Viking from a very rich civilised country but the other one.?

A bloody MEP as per @Binbag_the_Saylore definition??

What a shame. You are really in dire need to incentivise your local crowd of patriots and immediately verify /investigate if this is not another Russian gate in the making. But stay assured that although i may look like an Ecuadorian poisonous frog but i swear am not.

Unbelievable.!!! May I use above data to apply for green card??

Regarding below screen shot..

Looks like warning banner works fine and message understood. Will comply in next post.

What a High Priest declared is solved it means it is SOLVED . I have no problem with that due to past experiences in totalitarian/authoritarian environments. Kinda deja vu experience. :winking_face_with_tongue:

Hoowever thought topics are discussed while problems are solved.

HOUSTON!!! DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM.??

This is Spo signing off feeling good.

Cheers

Added: I am not complaining. Only posting my observations. Am extremely glad other Moderators kicked into action allowing @Kennebec_Captain to catch a breath and chop some wood to warm his house. Surely I do not want Him to freeze while tackling Forum moderation issues. Had to use old threads to explain what I mean while testing . Wonder what happened to good old and tested banner warning user while he tries to revive old thread and leaving the decision to proceed or not to the individual user and his judgement. It was a good banner.

Sincerely hope I will not be labelled as “too combative” as having even 10 year ban is frightening enough as I am sure I will not live that long.

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Regarding your # 106 and # 107 i do confirm following message appeared before posting here.

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This topic has been solved

Only reply here if:

  • You have additional details

  • The solution doesn’t work for you

If you have an unrelated issue, please start a new topic instead.

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But I have a question. Have you been trained as a ship-dog trainer or sheep-dog trainer ??

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Both. And in addition :
STCW Crowd Management & Understanding of Human Behaviour in Emergencies

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Apologies, Spo!
A throwaway remark intended for humour, not offence

Need to make a forced deviation from my intended course here but explanation is required. :wink:

Don’t You worry about it.!!!
I have mentioned it not as a rebuke . I have mentioned it because it is PERFECT :winking_face_with_tongue: .

Do not believe me??

Look up thread on jokes about Poles here. I went on such a rampage there , that moderators closed and locked the thread fearing some protests from PL embassy in WA. . I am not a thin skinned fellow and love British ,sharp edge , stiff upper lip humor.

And guess what?

I borrowed from You this lovely definition to wreak havoc on polish marirtime forum :wink: . And let me explain why it is perfect and quite fitting.

I know an erderly retired Polish capt , who spent abt 30 years campaining to restore PL flag at sea and on the oceans .

Flag which untill 1989 was vissible wherever I sailed ( 1-2 ships in every port ) . He was advising presidents , governments as a consultant. Nice fellow .

He failed in his efforts and in his utter frustration in one of the interviews he said as follows:

The Pole does not comprehend the meaning and value of the SEA

because while plowing fields , HORSES ASS is the only thing he can SEE

Tell me it is not accurate , then i will be offended :winking_face_with_tongue:

Cheers :wink:

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Do not know why this fine thread has been neglected by this noble community for such a long time.

I have been carefully watching some interesting things going on in this theme of censorship and quality control since the release from gcaptain prison of our famous @ombugge , who seems to be doing great and I have even noticed some

moves of the high priests Executive comity, relaxing the strict application of FAQ rules otherwise refered to as THE Holy RULES .

However about 39 minutes ago I have detected the following:


It appears the post of alias Beaver boy was flagged by the “community”.

Nobody knows by whom and nobody knows if it is true .

May be it was flagged only by one of the Moderators who does not like alias Beaverbangingboy or is biased against him. We do not know.

. So it looks the anti- transparent incognoto system of ratting and snitching is still in force and still very convenient.

So be it as i can live with that . Have lived with worse systems so i can live with that. Never mind.

However my jaw dropped with a loud bang when I saw this below while clicking on alias Beaverboy avatar:

So we have now some ROBOCOP & mysterious JUDGE DREAD called Discourse AI runing the moderation show?

Having lived in an environment very close to Orwels 1984 i can live with that too thanks to 30 years hands on experience in totalitarian/authoritarian regime.

But I have an issue here.

According to the old system /rules the “offender “ could appeal the verdict having been able to read the rules and get familiar with them and basis this knowledge determine validity of his appeal.

With this JUDGE DREAD called Discourse AI in power ,how the average Joe offender can appeal the verdict without knowing the rules applied by Discourse AI .

WHERE ARE these rules??. In other words where is my effing chart , echo sounder and radar , so one can navigate safely?

This invention reminds me of the so called” Kafka situation”.

Those unfamiliar with the term pls googe it.

Cheers

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Uuuuups.

Yapping to much ??? :winking_face_with_tongue: :winking_face_with_tongue:

Good for you. You will come back healthier .

Interesting.

U surely can not appeal this decision having no access to your account despite below:

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No email , nothing just an empty declaration , telling user what he/she can do while he/she can not. So it is a lie.

User can not use below because this case is not a critical isse or urgent matter affecting the site.

Hence your efforts to clarify will be ignored.

In the gCaptain Forum -FAQ section there is no other contact number to moderators to appeal unjust and unsubstantiated verdicts when one is suspended. Kinda 1984 scenario.

When i saw your post i thought ohooooo, this guy will surely get into trouble but the use of this particular idiom caused me to guess it could be your little sneaky provocation and one of your “ TESTS ” .

If so , then congratulations . This was a perfect bait.

Then your post on the Hypocrisy revealed

was hidden . You surely received sth like that -system message below:

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Hello,This is an automated message from gCaptain Forum to let you know that your post was hidden.

blahblahblahblahblah……………………….

Your post was flagged as off-topic/spam or other reason or no reason given: the community feels it is not a good fit for the topic, as currently defined by the title and the first post. One could be flagged by moderator informing you that topic is hidden pending moderators decision. Many options and variables may show up in such message.

This post was hidden due to flags from the community, so please consider how you might revise your post to reflect their feedback. You can edit your post after 10 minutes, and it will be automatically unhidden.

However, if the post is hidden by the community a second time, it will remain hidden until handled by staff.

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I may only speculate what happened because your post reappeared and it was obvious you have edited it by providing additional input explaining very clearly what you meant with an insert of some English dictionary or AI what looked like the one below.

For every reader with some residual brain leftovers it was absolutely obvious what you meant by using “pull the triger” idiomatic expression.

Hence the severity of your penalty is absolutely disproportianal. Somebody wanted to hit you and just waited for a pretext. Who is this somebody? Of course one of the moderators.

Lets continue.

If you were flagged by the community , then it can only mean the community that flagged you is a bunch of illiterates , who are not aware or do not want to be aware of the below extract:

“““““ Pull the trigger” is an idiom meaning to make a final, decisive commitment to a course of action, often after a period of hesitation or deliberation. It signifies taking the plunge, making a firm choice, or initiating a significant change. It is frequently used in business or personal contexts.

Key Aspects of the Phrase:

  • Decisive Action: It implies moving from thinking to doing.

  • Overcoming Hesitation: Often used when someone finally acts after worrying or waiting.

  • Finality: Suggests an irrevocable decision, similar to firing a gun.

  • Contexts: Commonly used in business (e.g., “pull the trigger on a deal”) or daily life (e.g., “pull the trigger on buying a new car”).

Example Usage:

  • “We finally pulled the trigger and bought the house” (committed to buying).

  • “They are waiting for the right moment to pull the trigger on the new marketing campaign” (launch the campaign). ““““““

  • “ EXPLICIT THREATHS OF ASSASINATION - is a kind of hyperbole used to justify the harsh disproportional penalty as taking the content as a whole it is not even implicit. “ , especially when you re-edited the post guiding reader to what you meant.

  • It is a cooked up accusation in order to hit you and obviously not only to discipline you but humiliate as well due to your content in general as per your AI bot often quoted analyses.

The post was immediately removed and thread was closed , so nobody could see -all evidence removed .( just like with the narco boats- kill hem all and sink them) It is a manipulation taken from the whole bag of woke trics. And one of them is exclusion and tampering with evidence. Typical acts of cowards.

  • But the best in this satyre of MODERATION is :

    INCITEMENT TO CIVIL WAR ( TRIGGER 2ND CIVIL WAR ) . What a drama and what a fantastic CONSPIRACY THEORY what fits you perfectly.

  • Wonder what this cuckoo was smoking writtng this gallactic nonsense. Reminds me of kinda left wing wackos claiming the man often referred to as the “QAnon Shaman” who participated in the January 6, 2021, was attackig the U.S. Capitol and sparking revolution .This alone is the mother of all hiperboleas. But my congrats Pal , you have joined the panteon of American bad dudes wanting to overthrow their gov. You bloody lucky foreigner U should be happy you got only 1 month by gCaptain government.

Finally we have : ““ A REPOST OF A PEREVIOUSLY FLAGGED VIOLATION “““ and this is a blatant LIE !!!

  • The moderator who has written it is a liar as i am a witness to the fact , monitoring the post for reasons mantioned previously , that the post was not REPOSTED but it was edited by the user/author to clarify any misunderstanding regarding the meaning of the post and intentions of the author, meaning he was acting bona fide and had good instead of EXPLICITLY SUGGESTED BY THE VERDICT vile intentions .

  • Who could have done it . ?? Of course it was done by human moderator and not AI bot. None of the listed in “About “ section of gCaptain moderators is a 4th grader as only 4 grader can interpret “ pull the trigger” with it’s literally meaning .

  • Only 4 grader has no idea what is metaphore , epitets, comparisons , personification , hiperbole, oxymorons used to enrich the text , cause emotions or awaken immagination**.**

  • Contextual Meaning:
    While literally meaning to fire a gun, the metaphorical usage (often “pull the trigger on something”) is common in business and personal contexts to denote the point of no return in a decision.

  • So in conlusion it was PERSONAL, done by your guts hater, who was just waiting for your slip up what you obviously did irrespective wheather intentionally or not .Needless to say a biased individual .

  • You got issues here with all of them . What brings us back to the issue of moderation and the quality of moderators in particular plus the incognito flagging issue , what makes such manipulations possible in order to coerce all users into a group thinking .

  • Just look at this here:

Flag to privately let the author - does not exist here .

Flagging is used here for the purpose of ratting and snitching and taking down guys who do not appreciate to flow with the river like dead fish but go against the current instead.

Hence your previously mentioned idea to finally expose the “ elephant in the room” and post it in this thread need to be finalised .

I could not write a PM as PM mail box is not accessible for suspended users so you would not see it .

But without loging one may see it if lucky because gCaptain forum nawadays does not want the unlogged users to see too much of the wisdom and chauvinist slogans contained there in .

There are frequently used words on this forum. Get in touch via FB .I will post in gCaptain FB comments section so U can find me to discuss few things till 1st may.

Have the pdf of your deleted post and knowing what devious and sneaky characters run the show here have made the pdf of my last here as well.
Disgusting.

Just out of curiosity I have pulled out AI bot reaction to the input of suspended alias spowiednick in the thread Hypocrisy revealed

gcaptain suspended account. of spowiednick.pdf (606.1 KB)

quite revealing one must admit.

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I have looked up the pdf with your edited remark/explanation

It is really insane that even the most dumb and stupid moron moderator, what it looks they do not have, could suspend you for this benign post of yours. Can not be.

I suspect they are pulling your leg and it was April fool’s joke .

And they are now laughing their asses off seeing you scarred ,concerned and asking others for help.

Let’s wait 24hrs more and see what happens then .

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No chance mate.
If they are capable of silencing those who “ WRITTE TOO FAST” , then may be those who think too fast are surely too great a threat for them.

Noted they have ca 30000 dormant and not used accounts .

I see some new slow mode is in force. Not helpful.

Have encountered the following problem :

Wanted to eddit post to @244 in “The Ramification “ thread and correct typo /spelling error” leaving “ → living when I got this message above .

What is this slow motion mode and why ?

Does it have anything to do with below:

Is this slow motion a manual moderator intervention or is it automatic ?

Looks like a navy tactic , that the convoy navigates with the maximum speed of the slowest vessel.

Some AI results on the classrooms and education. :
Lowering the overall level of a class to help a single differently abled member catch up is generally not considered justified or effective in modern inclusive education.

Instead of lowering standards, educational best practices involve implementing “reasonable adjustments” and “differentiated instruction” to provide the support that student needs without penalizing or limiting the academic progress of the rest of the class.

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Noted that restrictions described above were lifted . Thank You