# Sail ships

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794>\
**Category:** Maritime News\
**Created:** [December 22, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794 "2020-12-22T13:00:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/1 "2020-12-22T13:00:20Z")

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The BLACK PEARL outbound from Vlissingen passing Wandelaar Pilot station I understand that the vessel went out for trails during which the crew is trying to reach a speed of 30 knots using sails only.  
Photo : Ronald Ribbe – [http://www.rorifocus.nl](http://www.rorifocus.nl) ©

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**Author:** ![portofdc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@portofdc](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/portofdc)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/2 "2020-12-22T13:04:17Z")

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Looks like a rip-off of Maltese Falcon.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/2/c/2c4a17ec71e4a524c11c0e6bd3b930e60fb60f44.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/3 "2020-12-22T13:49:42Z")

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That looks like a bulbous bow on BLACK PEARL. The first I’ve ever seen on a sailing vessel.

Other than that these vessels are both modernized “motorsailors” / three masted “square-riggers”, and have a similar paint scheme, they look nothing alike. Completely different hull shapes.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/4 "2020-12-22T14:15:20Z")

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Another and bigger sail ship. This one for commercial trade:

> **[Back to the future: Swedish firm bets on wind-powered ships](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/12/swedish-firm-wind-powered-cargo-ships?fbclid=IwAR1zqoRX3wavVTkLjCSpDL6ja2tnSiY8jbWTcvYQOzy8G9dhvNvlNu2tCfc)**
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> A futuristic throwback - a huge, wind-driven cargo ship - could help end the fossil fuel era and curb climate change, its designers say

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/5 "2021-03-03T12:36:20Z")

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More wind powered ships under development:

> **[Wind Powered Containership Concept Launched](https://www.marinelink.com/news/wind-powered-containership-concept-485612)**
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> Winds of change are sweeping the maritime industry as vessel owners and operators seek ways to reduce vessel emissions. A new containership…

> **[Developing Wind Propulsion for Dry Bulk Carriers](https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/developing-wind-propulsion-for-dry-bulk-carriers)**
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> Oldendorff Carriers, one of the worlds leading dry bulk lines, announced that it will participate in...

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 10:26am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/6 "2021-04-19T10:26:07Z")

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No new ideas and hi-tech gadgets on this one:

> **[VOC Amsterdam Back At National Maritime Museum Following Maintenance At Damen](https://www.marineinsight.com/shipping-news/voc-amsterdam-back-at-national-maritime-museum-following-maintenance-at-damen/)**
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> The VOC Amsterdam has returned to the Scheepvaartmuseum (National Maritime Museum) in the Dutch capital after a scope of work undertaken at Damen’s yards.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 10:35am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/7 "2021-04-20T10:35:59Z")

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> **[Tall Ships Experience Center geopend in Harlingen](https://www.zeepost.info/index.php/2021/04/18/tall-ships-experience-center-geopend-in-harlingen/)**
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> Het Tall Ships Experience Center opende zaterdag 17 april zijn deuren in de Harlinger Willemshaven. „We gaan ervan uit dat we volgend jaar met de Tall Ships Races 300.000 bezoekers kunnen ontvangen…

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/8 "2021-12-13T13:30:56Z")

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The Indian Navy trainings vessel INS SUDARSHINI offshore Muscat

> **[SUDARSHINI - Sail On Board](https://sailtraininginternational.org/vessel/sudarshini/)**
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> INS Sudarshini is a sail training ship built by Goa Shipyard Ltd for the Indian Navy. The ship is a follow on class of INS Tarangini which was commissioned in 1997. "Sudarshini" means "beautiful lady Sundari" after the younger half-sister of...

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**Author:** ![yacht\_sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed655f/32.png) [@yacht\_sailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/yacht_sailor)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/9 "2021-12-13T16:45:24Z")

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Bow bulbs have been tried a few times on sailboats. Generally they don’t work well because of some combination of not being deep enough, too much pitching, and not staying in their optimum speed range.

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**Author:** ![Jurgen54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jurgen54/32/27113_2.png) [@Jurgen54](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jurgen54)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/10 "2021-12-13T19:22:28Z")

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“Looks like a rip-off Maltese Falcon”  
Positive:

> **[S/Y 88m MALTESE FALCON](https://www.perininavi.it/yacht/2006-maltese-falcon/)**
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> The Yacht
> Download the Brochure        
> Awards 
> 2006 Vela e Motore - Superyacht dell'anno
> 2006 Yacht Capital Bmw Award
> 2007 Boat International World Superyacht Award Best Sailing Yacht 45m and above
> 2007 Boat International World Superyacht Award...

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**Author:** ![Jurgen54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jurgen54/32/27113_2.png) [@Jurgen54](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jurgen54)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/11 "2021-12-13T19:44:41Z")

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Ooops, I must apologize:

> **[Black Pearl (yacht)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Pearl_(yacht))**
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> Black Pearl is a sailing yacht launched in 2016, which is 106.7 meters (350.1 ft) in length. It has three DynaRig masts supporting a sail area of 2,900 square meters (31,215 sq ft). The yacht was known during its build process originally as Oceanco Y712 and thereafter as "Project Solar". The hull is steel, the superstructure aluminum, and the masts carbon fiber. The yacht is owned by the family of Russian billionaire Oleg Burlakov, who died in June 2021.
> It is expected that Black Pearl can cross...

Not a rip-off but a development as Dykstra Naval Arc. was involved.  
Bow bulbs - no opinion, I think we can trust on \>yacht\_sailor\<

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/12 "2022-01-18T21:49:03Z")

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> **[Piriou to build TOWT's wind-powered cargo ship](https://www.offshore-energy.biz/piriou-to-build-towts-wind-powered-cargo-ship/)**
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> Piriou has secured a contract with TOWT for the design studies and the construction of an 81-metre sailing cargo ship.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/13 "2022-02-16T22:03:59Z")

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Another French sail ship project has been presented:

> **[France debuts another sail cargo ship design - Splash247](https://splash247.com/france-debuts-another-sail-cargo-ship-design/)**
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> Splash readers get a glimpse today of a new French sail cargo ship, contracted last week during the One Ocean Summit, and due for delivery next year. The Grain de Sail adventure was founded in 2010 in Brittany by twin brothers Olivier et Jacques...

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/14 "2022-03-02T20:13:28Z")

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A sailing ship is underway across the Atlantic:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/4/8/4872017947a5c7a000722ce15e6407e2a98a8883.jpeg)  
The MORGENSTER departed from Den Helder heading for the USA  
Photo: Flying Focus Aerial Photography www.flyingfocus.nl ©

> **[MORGENSTER - Sail On Board](https://sailtraininginternational.org/vessel/morgenster/)**
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> Morgenster was launched in 1919 as a herring lugger “Vrouw Maria” SCH 324 for the fishing company den Dulk. She was built at the shipyard Boot in Alphen. In 1927 she was motorised (200 HP La Meuse) and extended for another 7 meters. There she got her...

Destination(s) in the US is not stated.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/15 "2022-03-02T21:59:57Z")

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STATSRAD LEHMKUHL moored in Rio de Janeiro  
Photo: Torleif Klokset - Technical Manager - Solstad Offshore ASA | Macaé | Brazil ©

She is on a world tour that will last for another year:

> **[STATSRAAD LEHMKUHL - Sail On Board](https://sailtraininginternational.org/vessel/statsraad-lehmkuhl/)**

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/16 "2022-03-02T22:06:27Z")

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More commercial ships utilize wind technologies to cut emissions:  
[https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/more-commercial-ships-utilize-wind-technologies-to-cut-emissions/](https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/more-commercial-ships-utilize-wind-technologies-to-cut-emissions/)

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/17 "2022-05-20T12:36:10Z")

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If one type is good, two must be better:

> **[Enviva signs up for multi-sail bulk carrier project with MOL - Splash247](https://splash247.com/enviva-signs-up-for-multi-sail-bulk-carrier-project-with-mol/)**
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> New York-listed wood chip producer Enviva has signed up for a sail-assisted bulk carrier to be ordered by Mitsui OSK Lines (MOL), which will feature both MOL’s own hard sail Wind Challenger as well as rotor sails created by Anemoi Marine...

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 10:12am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/18 "2022-07-12T10:12:34Z")

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Sail powered wood chips carriers:

> **[Drax signs up for MOL’s hard sail solution - Splash247](https://splash247.com/drax-signs-up-for-mols-hard-sail-solution/)**
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> British power firm Drax Group has come out in support of Mitsui OSK Lines’ (MOL) hard sail development. Drax is partnering with MOL Drybulk to ship wood pellets to Japanese biomass energy clients on a set of new ships which will feature MOL’s Wind...

Soon to be seen along the West Coast of USA and Canada?

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/19 "2022-07-18T12:02:14Z")

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All together now:

> **[Challenging conventional thinking on implementing clean tech - Splash247](https://splash247.com/challenging-conventional-thinking-on-implementing-clean-tech/)**
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> There isn’t time to install clean technologies one at a time, and it doesn’t make sense to do so, argues Tuomas Riski, the CEO of Norsepower. The maritime industry’s clean technology market has often been characterised by investments in a single...

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/sail-ships/57794/20 "2022-07-28T19:18:28Z")

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Those were the days:  
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