# Qualified Assessor In Engineering
**URL:** https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274
**Category:** Engineering
**Created:** [October 1, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274 "2022-10-01T16:38:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 15
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### Author:  [@Ya\_Bouy](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ya_Bouy)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/1 "2022-10-01T16:38:22Z")
Hi. I’m looking to get STCW III/4 RFPEW (ratings forming part of engineering watch) endorsement but my company doesn’t have a qualified assessor. I have reached out to Maine maritime and Northeast and a few others with no joy. Anyone know of a course or a way to get this done? It seems odd that 20 years of seatime and standing C/E watch doesn’t give me street cred for know how to do basic engineroom procedures but, we also still get watched when we pee in the cup
anyway, I need a QA to fill out an NVIC 07-14. Any ideas?
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### Author:  [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/2 "2022-10-01T17:16:34Z")
You don’t need one (yet). See page 1 of Enclosure (2) to [NVIC 07-14](https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/DCO%20Documents/5p/5ps/NVIC/2014/NVIC-07-14%20(Incl-CH-5)%2020211215.pdf?ver=8rja9a_TCQ_n7YklCybKkQ%3d%3d×tamp=1640013667625):
_Until June 30, 2024, the Coast Guard will accept assessments signed before January 1, 2024, by mariners holding an appropriate national endorsement and who have at least 1 year of experience as officer in charge of an engineering watch (OICEW) on seagoing vessels of the applicable propulsion mode(s) of at least 1,000 HP (750 kW)._
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### Author:  [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/3 "2022-10-01T17:21:04Z")
> [@Ya\_Bouy](#):
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> my company doesn’t have a qualified assessor.
Are you sure none of the engineers there got QA on their own? All they need is a really simple assessor class and it’s a free submission so some might have done it.
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### Author:  [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/4 "2022-10-02T01:37:44Z")
You don’t need a QA yet like jdcavo said. Just need to find someone with the license to sign you off since you can’t sign off your own assessments.
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### Author:  [@Ya\_Bouy](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ya_Bouy)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/5 "2022-10-02T13:47:11Z")
Thank you. in knew I was missing something. This help a lot
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### Author:  [@coldduck](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/coldduck)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/6 "2022-10-02T13:52:11Z")
When are they going to just go ahead and scrap this assessor program? They have been waiving it for years because they know that very few have it and no one is getting it.
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### Author:  [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/7 "2022-10-02T22:01:15Z")
> [@Ya\_Bouy](#):
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> my company doesn’t have a qualified assessor.
Does your company have STCW licensed mariners?
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### Author:  [@Ya\_Bouy](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ya_Bouy)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/8 "2022-10-05T02:36:20Z")
Thank you
Any licensed officer? I’m currently working for a company that only has 100grt ships. I’m sailing as C/E. What if the Captain signed both the NVIC 04-17 and NVIC 17-14? in my eyes that would be sufficient. (if didn’t mention it I also want the III/1 OICEW that is basically the same form)
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### Author:  [@Ya\_Bouy](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ya_Bouy)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/9 "2022-10-05T02:37:02Z")
Hi Capt, So there was one engineer that was a QA and I just filled in for him… He just quit unfortunately.
The only STCW officers I know are bridge staff. Would the captain be an option? I’d think that he would be the right person if he is the only one above me (I’m currently working as CE- 100grt vessel-Unmanned ER’s)
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### Author:  [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 10:24am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/10 "2022-10-05T10:24:14Z")
> [@Ya\_Bouy](#):
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> Would the captain be an option?
No because he doesn’t have the knowledge to assess engineering tasks.
> [@Ya\_Bouy](#):
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> The only STCW officers I know are bridge staff.
Even though the assessor doesn’t need to officially be a QA they do need to have at least an STCW endorsement as OICEW and at least one year serving as AE/OICEW in order to assess for RFPEW.
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### Author:  [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/11 "2022-10-05T13:23:36Z")
> [@Capt\_Phoenix](#):
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> Even though the assessor doesn’t need to officially be a QA they do need to have at least an STCW endorsement as OICEW
Actually, they don’t. Appropriately qualified officers on inland waters and the Great Lakes, who do not have STCW endorsements, would be acceptable. But an assessor for RFPEW and other engine endorsements does need to hold a national officer endorsement (license) appropriate to the HP of the vessel and the capacity they are serving in even if the COI for the vessel doesn’t require a person holding that endorsement. So, no, the Captain cannot assess engineering competences.
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### Author:  [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/12 "2022-10-05T13:27:46Z")
> [@jdcavo](#):
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> Appropriately qualified officers on inland waters and the Great Lakes, who do not have STCW endorsements, would be acceptable.
That’s not widely known so I’m really glad you mentioned that!
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### Author:  [@Ya\_Bouy](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ya_Bouy)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/13 "2022-10-05T18:26:03Z")
Thank you! very helpful information. It looks like this will not be attainable for me at the current time but opens more possibilities. Thank you
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### Author:  [@Ya\_Bouy](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ya_Bouy)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/14 "2022-10-05T18:27:02Z")
Thank you Capt! good info! I appreciate all the help!
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### Author:  [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/qualified-assessor-in-engineering/64274/15 "2022-10-05T18:46:14Z")
> [@Ya\_Bouy](#):
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> I have reached out to Maine maritime and Northeast and a few others with no joy. Anyone know of a course or a way to get this done?
NMC has a list of QAs on their web page. Many don’t have contact info, but some do. Have you looked at that?
> **[qareport.pdf](https://www.dco.uscg.mil/portals/9/NMC/pdfs/qa/qareport.pdf)**
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