Puerto Rico - Statehood and attack on the Jones Act

Sad news for some but good news for those who gets to work on board. The Far Sentenial is heading to the GoM for a three year contract: http://www.offshoreenergytoday.com/csv-far-sentinel-clinches-3-year-gig-in-gulf-of-mexico/

She is a brand new “State of the Art” Subsea/IMR Vessel with the latest and best of equipment on board to work in up to 3,000 m. WD and living quarters of absolute top class for 85 persons, all in single berth cabins: https://www.farstad.com/fleet/newbuilds/newbuilds-fleet-list/far-838-tbn

I’m sure many of those cabins will be filled by Americans, although the Marine crew may not be.

[QUOTE=tengineer1;172985]Assume I don’t :)[/QUOTE]

In that case, here is an official study comparing Norwegian and US (in this case Alaska) ways of doing things: http://www.arcticgas.gov/norway’s-different-approach-to-oil-and-gas-development

This is from 2011 so numbers and some other facts are obviously not up to date, but it give a good and unbiased view of the Norwegian Oil & Gas Industry and how it is governed.

If that is not enough, here is the latest Prosperity Index (2015), which Norway topped for the 7th time: http://www.thelocal.no/20151102/norway-worlds-most-prosperous-country

Have a good read.

[QUOTE=ombugge;172983]Man, you really know how to keep the debate civilized!!! [/QUOTE]

what debate SIR! There is no debate on this nor should there be in this thread.

now concerning the “civilized” bit…you obviously are not aware of my wielding the famous pointy stick and unless you want to subject yourself to its jabs, I suggest you defer offering further commentary on this subject. Your treading on hallowed ground here.

We need a Norwegian to run from president and lead our country into the future. If we are to become the welfare state our current politicians envision we need to do it right. I look forward to our Norwegian overlords leading us to the promised land.

I think I’ve figured out the problem. You don’t understand how the US legal system works. It’s not one law trumps another. Laws are interwoven. We, as do many former English colonies and commonwealth nations are ruled by a common law system. Other parts of Europe, and many of their former colonies are ruled by a civil law system. To interpret law you have to take all of it into consideration, and previous rulings, to see what applies where and for what reason, it’s not all spelled out in a single chapter of CFR. So go and read the entirety of both the OCS Act and the Jones Act to find you answers.

[QUOTE=lm1883;172999]Norway is headed for recession. It will be difficult to stay prosperous at $45/bbl, hence the rate cuts by their central bank.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-23/oil-at-50-is-driving-norway-to-zero-as-recession-risk-soars[/QUOTE]

It is going to be tough times for Norway’s oil and gas and associated industries until oil prices gets back up a bit, but $60/bbl. will be enough to break even and anything above a bonus. Can US Shale Oil and deep water GoM oil manage on that margin?

The price for Norwegian oil is now around $50/bbl. but since the USD/NOK rate is getting higher the price in NOK is not that much affected. With over $800 Bn. in the Oil Fund, I think Norway will survive nicely thank you.

More reason to look at how long the US can maintain oil independence. With the production dropping and investment in finding new oil also dropping, onshore and offshore, it may not be all that far away before the cry about “dependence on people that don’t really like us” will return.

But thank you for your concern anyhow.

I think I’m a little lost. Does anyone know where I can find the thread about how the El Faro sinking is being leveraged against American jobs? I think maybe the forum is broken, because I clicked the title for that one and it sent me to this weird pissing contest about Norway.

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;173007]We need a Norwegian to run from president and lead our country into the future. If we are to become the welfare state our current politicians envision we need to do it right. I look forward to our Norwegian overlords leading us to the promised land.[/QUOTE]

Not a bad idea, but you have to change the constitution to allow it first, which may be a mitt difficult.
Even to pass an amendment to regulate how Congressmen’s compensation in amended took over 202 years, so don’t get your hope up high.
Your best bet would be to hope that a self-proclaimed Socialist from Vermont becomes the next President.
Fat change of that with the loudest mouth in New York in the running. He is rich, very rich, so he’ll be able to buy the White House and turn it into a very expensive hotel.

PS> I believe it is/was possible to spend a night there already, but at the right price?

[QUOTE=ombugge;173009]It is going to be tough times for Norway’s oil and gas and associated industries until oil prices gets back up a bit, but $60/bbl. will be enough to break even and anything above a bonus. Can US Shale Oil and deep water GoM oil manage on that margin?

The price for Norwegian oil is now around $50/bbl. but since the USD/NOK rate is getting higher the price in NOK is not that much affected. With over $800 Bn. in the Oil Fund, I think Norway will survive nicely thank you.

More reason to look at how long the US can maintain oil independence. With the production dropping and investment in finding new oil also dropping, onshore and offshore, it may not be all that far away before the cry about “dependence on people that don’t really like us” will return.

But thank you for your concern anyhow.[/QUOTE]

800bn in the Norwegian Oil Fund. The USA’s Oil Fund is??? Anyway, I am sure it is more than a mere 800bn

[QUOTE=ombugge;173040]Not a bad idea, but you have to change the constitution to allow it first, which may be a mitt difficult.[/QUOTE]

since when does a foreign national get to comment here on the US Constitution or presidential politics? step back there SIR!

What if a great NorgeAmerican family has been biding their time for generations? A great family name many here don’t even know they should hold in high esteem. The patriarchs invention allowed coonasses to travel further from shore than oars could carry them. His invention allowed the first GOM shrimper to venture out and trade shrimp for diesel and birth the modern OSV industry. If only the heir of Ole Evinrude will come to his country’s rescue.

A foreign national might have read the constitution unlike most citizens of the USA. Civics is not a required course any more. Keep 'em dumb and you can control them. There is a bill of rights, amendments etc beyond the constitution. Most people think the constitution originally included the right to “keep and bear arms”. Actually it is an amendment to the constitution and includes the words “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State” the founders did not want a standing military. There was originally also a statement of slavery being a right of the states to decide. Civics is fun, wish they still taught it.

[QUOTE=c.captain;173042]since when does a foreign national get to comment here on the US Constitution or presidential politics? step back there SIR![/QUOTE]

I claim the 1st Amendment.

[QUOTE=tengineer1;173050]A foreign national might have read the constitution unlike most citizens of the USA. Civics is not a required course any more. Keep 'em dumb and you can control them. There is a bill of rights, amendments etc beyond the constitution. Most people think the constitution originally included the right to “keep and bear arms”. Actually it is an amendment to the constitution and includes the words “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State” the founders did not want a standing military. There was originally also a statement of slavery being a right of the states to decide. Civics is fun, wish they still taught it.[/QUOTE]

At the time that amendment was made “arms” meant mussel loaded pistols and rifles, not fully automatic assault weapons.

Besides, “We the people” that was allowed to bear them meant; “European descended protestant male land owners”, not every Tom, Dick and Annie.
Not every grumpy old mariner either. (Sorry, couldn’t resist)

[QUOTE=LI_Domer;173008]I think I’ve figured out the problem. You don’t understand how the US legal system works. It’s not one law trumps another. Laws are interwoven. We, as do many former English colonies and commonwealth nations are ruled by a common law system. Other parts of Europe, and many of their former colonies are ruled by a civil law system. To interpret law you have to take all of it into consideration, and previous rulings, to see what applies where and for what reason, it’s not all spelled out in a single chapter of CFR. So go and read the entirety of both the OCS Act and the Jones Act to find you answers.[/QUOTE]

You mean you (your Lawyer) pick a little from here and a little from there to suit your case and the other side do the same?
I presume whoever got the cleverest and most expensive Lawyer(s) win the case, unless the Judge is biased, or can be gently swayed one way or the other by a little “consideration”?

[QUOTE=ombugge;173053] mussel loaded [/QUOTE]

That must have been one heck of a weapon. Not sure PETA would allow it now a days though.

Yum. When I’m home I like to go to the pizzeria and get loaded with mussels too. Make mine Fra diavolo if you please and don’t forget the fresh warm Italian bread to dunk in the sauce.

Seriously though do you read what you are posting? I can not seem to discern any meaning in most of your posts. Are you on some kind of mission to get to a magic number of posts so you will gain some kind of credibility? When you hit 500 will a choir of angels appear above you as you sit at Newton Circus eating pepper crab? Will your nemesis suddenly see the light of your wisdom shining through? Man just think more and write less.

This was posted above every time clock at Edison’s labs:
“There is no expedient to which a man will not resort to avoid the real labor of thinking” (Sir Joshua Reynolds)

There you go, think about that before you dash off more of your stream of consciousness ramblings.

Have a nice day.

[QUOTE=KPChief;173066]That must have been one heck of a weapon. Not sure PETA would allow it now a days though.

Yum. When I’m home I like to go to the pizzeria and get loaded with mussels too. Make mine Fra diavolo if you please and don’t forget the fresh warm Italian bread to dunk in the sauce.

Seriously though do you read what you are posting? I can not seem to discern any meaning in most of your posts. Are you on some kind of mission to get to a magic number of posts so you will gain some kind of credibility? When you hit 500 will a choir of angels appear above you as you sit at Newton Circus eating pepper crab? Will your nemesis suddenly see the light of your wisdom shining through? Man just think more and write less.

This was posted above every time clock at Edison’s labs:
“There is no expedient to which a man will not resort to avoid the real labor of thinking” (Sir Joshua Reynolds)

There you go, think about that before you dash off more of your stream of consciousness ramblings.

Have a nice day.[/QUOTE]

Damned spell checker.

[QUOTE=c.captain;173042]since when does a foreign national get to comment here on the US Constitution or presidential politics? step back there SIR![/QUOTE]

Are you a forum moderator? No? Than take your stick and retreat to your cave.

[QUOTE=Kraken;173068]Are you a forum moderator? No? Than take your stick and retreat to your cave.[/QUOTE]

NUTS TO YOU! I speak for my fellow Americans here which are the majority of this forum. We don’t take kindly to those who are from other nations to make derogatory commentary about ours regardless of how fucked up it might be.

[QUOTE=c.captain;173069]NUTS TO YOU! I speak for my fellow Americans here which are the majority of this forum. We don’t take kindly to those who are from other nations to make derogatory commentary about ours regardless of how fucked up it might be.[/QUOTE]

This is an international forum, even if you single-handedly has chased away almost all who are trying to participate. And do you speak on behalf of all Americans? I refuse to believe that an entire country is populated by bigots like you. It was at least not the experience I gained on holiday in USA.