# Prre-requisite for NI Cert **URL:** \ **Category:** Dynamic Positioning\ **Created:** [July 23, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450 "2010-07-23T20:20:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Orniphobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Orniphobe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Orniphobe)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/1 "2010-07-23T20:20:29Z")
Wow, I was just reading in the last IDPOA newsletter that NI is considering making a mate’s license a requirement for the NI DP Cert. See [http://media.tmmarket.com/marex/media/pdf/IDPOA\_6degrees\_Issue4\_Summer2010.pdf](http://media.tmmarket.com/marex/media/pdf/IDPOA_6degrees_Issue4_Summer2010.pdf) . I knew the USCG is looking at some sort of DP license endorsement or certified training and the Manila Amendments to STCW Part B include DP stuff. I didn’t realize the NI was thinking of changing things up too. This would interesting effects on a couple of companies I can think of, good or bad. ---
**Author:** ![Cgaptain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@Cgaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Cgaptain)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/2 "2010-07-23T23:24:49Z")
Does OOW mean OICNW, or Management level license? There are DP crewboats that only require a 100 ton license. they are OOW, but not even close to OICNW. This ruling from the nautical institute will close the door fast on wanabees. Get started on basic training before the end of the year and you will have your foot in the door. There might be some other grandfathering, but regardless, everyone is tightening up. good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Orniphobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Orniphobe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Orniphobe)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/3 "2010-07-24T08:36:17Z")
Good question. I assumed it meant OICNW but I forgot there are still mates and captains out there without STCW endorsements. ---
**Author:** ![Ea\_y\_Money](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@Ea\_y\_Money](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ea_y_Money)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/4 "2010-07-24T08:46:30Z")
What is the possibility of getting started on the basic course and being grandfathered in? I am still an AB but have the opportunity to get some time logged on a DP2 vessel. Also, anyone know what the version 1.6 is about on the NI credentials? I was on there website a week or so ago looking for a school to attend and noticed a note about different criteria. ---
**Author:** ![cajuntugster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@cajuntugster](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cajuntugster)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 12:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/5 "2010-07-28T12:31:36Z")
Get the basic now!! DP time does not count until you get the basic. I went to L3 in Houston. Not cheap, where is? but they have a lot of classes so you should be able to get one that fits into your time off and not have to take off. When you go back to your boat you will be able to get your 30 days signed off since you only have to be an observer and not an operator of the system. ---
**Author:** ![Cgaptain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@Cgaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Cgaptain)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/6 "2010-07-28T16:19:29Z")
The rules keep changing. Previous DP time, if documented, will count towards your certificate. The NI “prefers” you follow their guideline of Class 1, 30 days, Class 2, 180 days. Time in excess of 30 days between classes count towards the 180 days. Having said all that, documentation of your time at the desk is essential. It appears that if you have started the process towards your certificate (Basic DP induction) before the new rules go into effect (Jan 1), you are exempt from the OOW rule. The Nautical Institute has a website that spells it all out. Good Luck. ---
**Author:** ![Flyer69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/flyer69/32/6000_2.png) [@Flyer69](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Flyer69)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/7 "2010-07-29T05:22:36Z")
[QUOTE=Cgaptain;40578]The rules keep changing. Previous DP time, if documented, will count towards your certificate. The NI “prefers” you follow their guideline of Class 1, 30 days, Class 2, 180 days. Time in excess of 30 days between classes count towards the 180 days. Having said all that, documentation of your time at the desk is essential. It appears that if you have started the process towards your certificate (Basic DP induction) before the new rules go into effect (Jan 1), you are exempt from the OOW rule. [B]The Nautical Institute has a website that spells it all out[/B]. Good Luck.[/QUOTE] Any chance of posting the link to eactly where this is all spelled out? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Cgaptain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@Cgaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Cgaptain)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/8 "2010-08-05T05:04:07Z")
[http://www.nautinst.org/DP/index.htm#](http://www.nautinst.org/DP/index.htm#) This is the homepage. Links on the right to explore. [http://www.nautinst.org/DP/pdf/DP\_OperatorCertificateJan2010.pdf](http://www.nautinst.org/DP/pdf/DP_OperatorCertificateJan2010.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![TxKingfisher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@TxKingfisher](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/TxKingfisher)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/9 "2010-08-05T05:19:56Z")
[QUOTE=cajuntugster;40570]Get the basic now!! DP time does not count until you get the basic.[/QUOTE] They changed it. Your time before kthe classes can count now. It’s on the NI website… look it up. ---
**Author:** ![Ea\_y\_Money](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@Ea\_y\_Money](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ea_y_Money)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 10:39am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/prre-requisite-for-ni-cert/4450/10 "2010-08-05T10:39:39Z")
Been through all these dove before but still have not found “start your basic before we change the rules”