# NOAA or MSC? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maritime Employment\ **Created:** [July 16, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013 "2021-07-16T01:04:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013/22 "2021-07-21T16:56:41Z")
No Lee, I haven’t had the pleasure. My crew was much smaller and I could spot a keeper rather quickly. I will ask my son about the Ghost OS on an MSC ship, He will probably either laugh and/or tell me a story. That does give me my first chuckle of the day. Thanks Lee, I believe in ghosts! ---
**Author:** ![kapena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kapena/32/20968_2.png) [@kapena](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/kapena)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013/24 "2021-07-21T19:48:01Z")
Completely agree with your comment. I give this counsel to many young graduates from maritime academies or new 3/M’s ---
**Author:** ![kapena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kapena/32/20968_2.png) [@kapena](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/kapena)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013/25 "2021-07-21T19:53:40Z")
Agree. I also know a young man who I watched go from being a Cal Maritime grad to jumping onto MSC ships right away. Before I knew it, he was sailing as rotating C/M on a salvage tug out of Pearl Harbor. Before long he is was Master. Hardly there long at all and now he is a permanent Civil Service employee and working as a Harbor Pilot at Pearl today. He is the stunning example of a meteoric rise working within the MSC fleet and using the system to your own advantage. It can be done by anyone who is driven and a good work ethic. Politics?? Not that I’m aware of. But that can be true anywhere, even the private sector. ---
**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013/26 "2021-07-21T21:30:23Z")
Nailed it Kapena. He is an example of driving hard, he was focused. ---
**Author:** ![kapena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kapena/32/20968_2.png) [@kapena](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/kapena)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013/27 "2021-07-22T20:17:55Z")
… and it truly paid off for him. When people complain about the “youth today” and how they’re not motivated, I stop and think of a few that I know that are NOT that way. This guy, is the top of my “most admired” list. ---
**Author:** ![captburton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a87d85/32.png) [@captburton](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/captburton)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013/28 "2021-08-05T04:39:44Z")
Not true at all. Get you sea-time, either go to school on your own or on MSC’s dime, and you will become a Master at MSC. ---
**Author:** ![Menglie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/menglie/32/13504_2.png) [@Menglie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Menglie)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 6:08am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013/29 "2021-08-05T06:08:10Z")
That’s the MSC propaganda line, “united we sail”. If you don’t know the secret handshake, you don’t get in ---
**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013/30 "2021-08-06T14:43:43Z")
No secret handshake, just tolerate the employment regarding reliefs on time. Pay is not too bad… They do pay quite well for upgrading while still earning a check. A single person riding up will do quite well. Not my bag back then, but not to shabby as some may suggest. [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/noaa-or-msc/60013.md?page=1)