# New Propulsion system

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253>\
**Category:** Marine Engineering\
**Created:** [June 1, 2023, 10:14am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253 "2023-06-01T10:14:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 10:14am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253/1 "2023-06-01T10:14:39Z")

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> **[Whale's tail-inspired propulsion set for 2025 debut - Splash247](https://splash247.com/whales-tail-inspired-propulsion-set-for-2025-debut/)**
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> Taking inspiration from a whale’s tail, ABB today introduced a new propulsion system concept for the marine industry, with plans to roll out the first prototype in 2025. The new propulsion concept, which mimics the movements of a whale tail, features...

Your (objective) opinion please.

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**Author:** ![Tupsis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tupsis](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tupsis)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253/2 "2023-06-01T12:58:52Z")

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Before everyone gets to say it, based on the video emberred in the article it appears that the movement of the blades is distinctively different from that of Voith Schneider: each blade does a full rotation about its own vertical axis as the main assembly rotates, keeping its leading edge roughly towards the direction of motion. You can clearly see it at about 5:22 in the video.

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**Author:** ![PaddyWest2012](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/paddywest2012/32/2405_2.png) [@PaddyWest2012](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/PaddyWest2012)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253/3 "2023-06-01T13:08:04Z")

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**Author:** ![Meme.Lord](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/meme.lord/32/29401_2.png) [@Meme.Lord](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Meme.Lord)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253/4 "2023-06-01T21:06:03Z")

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I’ve never worked on a VSP powered vessel and I’m certainly no engineer, but this looks like less steps, aren’t VSP mechanically linked to controls?

 ![Screenshot 2023-06-01 165000](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/3/e/3e7b169794ad233c7369f268830eaefff9479a8c.png)

A bunch of individually controlled motors that allow for a full range in motion has to be easier to maintain than this contraption.

I’m sure they’re smart folks who have done the math, but It looks like there would be a weird perpendicular force or a torque force of some sort on the fore and aft edges of the system, while the VSP is generating lift all the way around. Could just be the graphic and my simple brain overthinking things though.

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**Author:** ![PaddyWest2012](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/paddywest2012/32/2405_2.png) [@PaddyWest2012](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/PaddyWest2012)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 5:16am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253/5 "2023-06-02T05:16:47Z")

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I don’t really care and will probably never work on one, I just thought it was funny 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Lew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lew](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Lew)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 9:00am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253/6 "2023-06-02T09:00:43Z")

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Wonder what happens when you smack a submerged container with one of those ?

Looks more frail than a regular prop.

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**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253/7 "2023-06-02T12:52:31Z")

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> [@Lew](#):
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> Wonder what happens when you smack a submerged container with one of those ?

It breaks and you limp or get towed to a shipyard in the traditional fashion.

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**Author:** ![jimrr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jimrr/32/38358_2.png) [@jimrr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jimrr)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253/8 "2023-06-08T15:59:33Z")

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sure to be a boon to the tow industry. I doubt there is anything we can do to that gearbox underway either. a lot of moving parts!

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**Author:** ![3rdBoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/f4b2a3/32.png) [@3rdBoff](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/3rdBoff)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-propulsion-system/66253/9 "2023-11-24T23:25:42Z")

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I dont like it but i never really do like change, if im correct this is designed for dynamic positioning?
