# New DPO Training Scheme - Alternative to the Nautical Institute scheme **URL:** \ **Category:** Dynamic Positioning\ **Created:** [September 24, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551 "2012-09-24T02:31:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/42 "2013-06-10T14:01:15Z")
[QUOTE=powerabout;112106]The NI exam is now live for induction course and also nothing on the web site…what happens if you fail it?[/QUOTE] The NI gives a second chance to pass within 24 hours. If you dont pass on the second try you have to repeat the course. But very very few fail the first attempt. ---
**Author:** ![RubberRhib888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@RubberRhib888](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/RubberRhib888)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/43 "2013-06-10T19:38:40Z")
Why don’t a couple of you experienced guys get together and write a book? I’m being serious. After following this thread, there seems to be at least 50-60 years of experience between some you veteran DPO’s. Actually more than 60 years. It would be pretty sweet to add to my mariner book collection. Maybe something like scenarios and how to deal with them…things of that nature. Just a thought from an outsider. ---
**Author:** ![z-drive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c37758/32.png) [@z-drive](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/z-drive)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/44 "2013-06-10T20:07:18Z")
> [@"RubberRhib888"](#): > > Why don’t a couple of you experienced guys get together and write a book? I’m being serious. After following this thread, there seems to be at least 50-60 years of experience between some you veteran DPO’s. Actually more than 60 years. It would be pretty sweet to add to my mariner book collection. Maybe something like scenarios and how to deal with them…things of that nature. Just a thought from an outsider. Great idea but I bet the bayou mafia has an intellectual property no-compete agreement with their employees! ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/45 "2013-06-10T21:59:14Z")
[QUOTE=RubberRhib888;112198]Why don’t a couple of you experienced guys get together and write a book? I’m being serious. After following this thread, there seems to be at least 50-60 years of experience between some you veteran DPO’s. Actually more than 60 years. It would be pretty sweet to add to my mariner book collection. Maybe something like scenarios and how to deal with them…things of that nature. Just a thought from an outsider.[/QUOTE] Go and read the IMCA DP incident database which goes back years. They all say DPO did it or let it happen.( poor skill set) or failure of procedure and for most vessels there was no procedure. ( poor office skill set) both of these are getting worse as new companies are buying DP vessels and the DPO’s are not getting smarter or are not able to get any training even if they wanted to There is a big lobby in the industry to make training full mission bridge ( well there is for the punters who spent millions and need the customers) by people who have or sell them. FMB’s teach procedure not basic knowledge. Prodedure you learn on board. The basic things that every school should have to do basic training do not yet exist ( other than a console) so basic fundamentals are being skipped at the beginning level. There is oppurtunity missed to make a console produce all the errors a DPO could well see on board and are not in anyones specification. ---
**Author:** ![BowchickaBowditch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a587f6/32.png) [@BowchickaBowditch](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BowchickaBowditch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/46 "2013-06-11T15:14:40Z")
> [@"RubberRhib888"](#): > > Why don’t a couple of you experienced guys get together and write a book? I’m being serious. After following this thread, there seems to be at least 50-60 years of experience between some you veteran DPO’s. Actually more than 60 years. It would be pretty sweet to add to my mariner book collection. Maybe something like scenarios and how to deal with them…things of that nature. Just a thought from an outsider. [ATTACH]3542[/ATTACH] > **[gCaptain Forum](https://forum.gcaptain.com)** > > A forum for the maritime and offshore industries. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/47 "2013-06-27T21:41:10Z")
anyone done the new DNV course? how much was it? ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/48 "2013-06-28T05:30:40Z")
I hope someone is keeping an eye out for official word from the NI about this change… ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/49 "2013-06-28T16:01:26Z")
I am very curious how this rule will affect current trainees. Will everyone without their certificate have to retake advanced class and then get another 60 days? Etc… ---
**Author:** ![PDCMATE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@PDCMATE](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/PDCMATE)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/50 "2013-06-28T18:12:01Z")
[QUOTE=Capt. Phoenix;113569]I am very curious how this rule will affect current trainees. Will everyone without their certificate have to retake advanced class and then get another 60 days? Etc…[/QUOTE] We have some guys going through the application process for their DP Unlimited currently, and they have not been told about any test or having to re-take anything. However, their applications have been with the NI for almost 4 months now, and they still have not had the DP cert issued yet. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/51 "2013-06-29T05:05:23Z")
[QUOTE=“PDCMATE;113573”] We have some guys going through the application process for their DP Unlimited currently, and they have not been told about any test or having to re-take anything. However, their applications have been with the NI for almost 4 months now, and they still have not had the DP cert issued yet.[/QUOTE] I doubt it would affect people with their applications currently in, seeing how it isn’t even posted on the NI’s website yet… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Nautical\_Institu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@The\_Nautical\_Institu](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/The_Nautical_Institu)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/52 "2013-07-05T02:33:35Z")
[QUOTE=powerabout;112106]The NI exam is now live for induction course and also nothing on the web site…what happens if you fail it?[/QUOTE] Hi… if student fails, he/she is allowed to repeat the test. The second attempt must be done within 24 hours in the same training centre. The 3rd attempt can be done within 6 month from the date of the first attempt. If student fails in the 3rd attempt, he/she will be required to repeat the basic course. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551/53 "2013-07-08T03:29:12Z")
so all 3 can be done on the same day? [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/new-dpo-training-scheme-alternative-to-the-nautical-institute-scheme/8551.md?page=2)