# Nautical Institute DP cert. waiting time

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**Created:** [June 30, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781 "2012-06-30T01:42:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![GYRO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@GYRO](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/GYRO)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/1 "2012-06-30T01:42:48Z")

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What is the current waiting time at the NI?  
Anybody recently received the cert.? How long did you have to wait?

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**Author:** ![BMCSRetired](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/bmcsretired/32/1005_2.png) [@BMCSRetired](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BMCSRetired)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/2 "2012-06-30T05:44:31Z")

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[QUOTE=GYRO;72912]What is the current waiting time at the NI?  
Anybody recently received the cert.? How long did you have to wait?[/QUOTE]

Last summer it took me three months to get the Unlimited Certificate but that was the old system. I have heard the new application process is quicker in some cases.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tom\_B](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tom_B)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 9:43am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/3 "2013-04-19T09:43:45Z")

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I was wondering if anyone has sent an original or first application to the NI for a DP license lately? If you have could you share your wait time? I sent my package to the NI yesterday UPS says the NI will have it Monday. I guess after 10 months of bs classes and babysitting my log book I am getting impatient. Thanks any insight you might have.

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**Author:** ![rigdvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@rigdvr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/rigdvr)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:35am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/4 "2013-04-19T10:35:09Z")

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How did you manage to get the required time in 10 months? That’s some serious DP time!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tom\_B](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tom_B)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/5 "2013-04-19T12:07:16Z")

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13 months on the boat 10 months since my first dp class working 28 14 7 hitches to get the last 5 months dp time. Give or take a couple weeks.

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**Author:** ![GYRO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@GYRO](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/GYRO)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/6 "2013-04-19T12:55:19Z")

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> [@"Tom B"](#):
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> 13 months on the boat 10 months since my first dp class working 28 14 7 hitches to get the last 5 months dp time. Give or take a couple weeks.

Make copies of everything before you submit it all to the NI, they lost my paperwork, slowed me down by 12 months. I had a signed delivery receipt, they said sorry we don’t have it…bloody Brits, I am telling you!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tom\_B](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tom_B)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/7 "2013-04-19T16:40:05Z")

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> [@"GYRO"](#):
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> Make copies of everything before you submit it all to the NI, they lost my paperwork, slowed me down by 12 months. I had a signed delivery receipt, they said sorry we don’t have it…bloody Brits, I am telling you!

I made copies of everything but my log book stupid me! I hope they don’t loose it I did send it UPS to get a signature.

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**Author:** ![rigdvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@rigdvr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/rigdvr)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/8 "2013-04-19T17:35:58Z")

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> [@"Tom B"](#):
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> 13 months on the boat 10 months since my first dp class working 28 14 7 hitches to get the last 5 months dp time. Give or take a couple weeks.

That’s still a huge amount of time on DP. we usually get 12-17 days per hitch of time. Good job!

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**Author:** ![TUGBOATRICK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@TUGBOATRICK](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/TUGBOATRICK)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/9 "2013-04-19T18:06:46Z")

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Sent my time in an was emailed upon arrival an was told 8-10 weeks

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**Author:** ![Skoidat69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/skoidat69/32/1138_2.png) [@Skoidat69](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Skoidat69)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/10 "2013-04-19T18:33:43Z")

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> [@"TUGBOATRICK"](#):
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> Sent my time in an was emailed upon arrival an was told 8-10 weeks

Was that with the new system?  
I’m trying to transfer overseas but I can’t until my ADPO has his certificate… I figured the electronic system would speed everything up… Guess not

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/11 "2013-04-19T18:42:47Z")

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[QUOTE=“Tom B;106215”]13 months on the boat 10 months since my first dp class working 28 14 7 hitches to get the last 5 months dp time. Give or take a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]

How many days per hitch did you average?

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**Author:** ![TUGBOATRICK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@TUGBOATRICK](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/TUGBOATRICK)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/12 "2013-04-19T19:50:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Skoidat69;106261]Was that with the new system?  
I’m trying to transfer overseas but I can’t until my ADPO has his certificate… I figured the electronic system would speed everything up… Guess not[/QUOTE]

Yup everything is done online first then mail in all document an sea time

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**Author:** ![follow40](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@follow40](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/follow40)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/13 "2013-04-20T08:37:09Z")

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I wonder if being a member of the NI gets the application through quicker.

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**Author:** ![dredgeboater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@dredgeboater](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/dredgeboater)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 9:43am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/14 "2013-04-20T09:43:11Z")

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> [@"follow40"](#):
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> I wonder if being a member of the NI gets the application through quicker.

I doubt it. I’ll let you know in a few more months.

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**Author:** ![follow40](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@follow40](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/follow40)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/15 "2013-04-21T10:55:13Z")

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[QUOTE=dredgeboater;106338]I doubt it. I’ll let you know in a few more months.[/QUOTE]

If they brought “improved processing time” in as part of the membership package, they would get a lot more members.

So how long does it take then to get the ticket with the new online application system?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tom\_B](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tom_B)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/16 "2013-04-22T05:16:26Z")

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> [@"Capt. Phoenix"](#):
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> How many days per hitch did you average?

Last hitch it was 23 the job we are an now we are lucky to spend 2 days away from the platform a month. We manage to hit the dock just long enough to get fuel water and supplies then back out. It sucks on one side but great for accumulating days.

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**Author:** ![ElCapitan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/elcapitan/32/187_2.png) [@ElCapitan](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ElCapitan)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/17 "2013-04-22T06:00:36Z")

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Make sure your company DP seatime letter matches your dp book. And don’t forget the company stamp on the letter. If all your paperwork is in good order it will take 8 to 10 weeks.

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**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 6:26am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/18 "2013-04-22T06:26:18Z")

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The Nautical Institute doesn’t sound very reliable. They make the NMC look pretty good.

If the Nautical Institute cannot figure out how to issue DP Certificates within 10 days and stop losing so much of people’s paperwork, it needs to be replaced.

Who should take over DP certification for US mariners? ABS? DNV? NMC?

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**Author:** ![coldduck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@coldduck](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/coldduck)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 6:39am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/19 "2013-04-22T06:39:35Z")

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At one time in the very recent past there were several major OSV companies in talks together about starting their own DP licensing organization. Not sure what becoming of this?

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**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:33am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/nautical-institute-dp-cert-waiting-time/7781/20 "2013-04-22T08:33:12Z")

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It seems like the US market demand for DP operators has become too large (and ever growing), and too important to the US economy for the US not to administer domestic DP certification here at home.

It doesn’t make sense to allow a private foreign membership club in the UK to set the standards and control US industry through an inept foreign private bureaucracy. Especially, when they are so inept that they frequently lose applicants’ supporting paper documentation (which they have already received electronically). There is absolutely no excuse for it to take 8 to 10 weeks to issue a certificate. Maybe that kind of ineptitude and delay is acceptable in the UK, but it isn’t here in the US.

Now I see why the Norwegians had to start their own DP certification regime.

We need a US DP certification regime that is only open to US citizens with USCG licenses. Yes, I’m saying that only US citizens should be allowed to be DP operators in the United States. The US DP regime should run on a parallel track to the NI DP certification scheme so that it is relatively easy to get both. But no employer operating in the US should be allowed to require anything more than a US issued credential, or to substitute anything other than a US credential. It is completely unacceptable to allow a foreign private organization to control who is qualified and eligible to work in the United States.

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