# MSC to MEBA

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-to-meba/71106>\
**Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\
**Created:** [November 8, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-to-meba/71106 "2024-11-08T22:41:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Schuyler1721](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/schuyler1721/32/69175_2.png) [@Schuyler1721](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Schuyler1721)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-to-meba/71106/1 "2024-11-08T22:41:36Z")

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Has anyone on here made the transition from MEBA government fleet to MEBA deep sea? I would like to hear your comment, opinions, and guidance on the process.

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**Author:** ![\_A465B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/e8c25b/32.png) [@\_A465B](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/_A465B)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 11:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-to-meba/71106/2 "2024-11-08T23:21:44Z")

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I did it. It went fine. Tankers & box boats. Steam & motor.

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**Author:** ![Wasforkandblade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Wasforkandblade](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Wasforkandblade)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:29am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-to-meba/71106/3 "2024-11-09T11:29:49Z")

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Was there a significant difference in pay switching from gov fleet to tankers/box boats? Considering a move to MEBA and would like to have an idea before I walk in.

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**Author:** ![New3M](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/new3m/32/394_2.png) [@New3M](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/New3M)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 12:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-to-meba/71106/4 "2024-11-09T12:45:16Z")

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Well for one thing, you can make as much money as you want. MEBA won’t stop paying you when you hit the federal cap.

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**Author:** ![\_A465B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/e8c25b/32.png) [@\_A465B](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/_A465B)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-to-meba/71106/5 "2024-11-09T15:14:36Z")

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Fewer people onboard to help. More overtime, no port time, better vacation, ships in worse condition, better pay.

I would not hesitate to switch if there’s jobs on the board. I did it when a Group 1 card needed 11 months in the Hall to get a top shelf relief job on a box boat. Times have changed and you need to go to Hall and see for yourself

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**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-to-meba/71106/6 "2024-11-09T15:39:14Z")

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Used to be MSC and NOAA wage marine could move to MEBA group 2 without initiation fee after 2 years while paying dues. Was a good deal at the time but I don’t know how much it has changed. What are the current rules? Anyone know?