# MSC Chartered HOS boats in Washington State

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**Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\
**Created:** [April 23, 2013, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167 "2013-04-23T08:34:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/quimby/32/3448_2.png) [@Quimby](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/1 "2013-04-23T08:34:58Z")

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A while back, the city council of Port Angeles, WA ok’d a permit for a bunch of 71’ Navy sub escort boats to be moored at the PA Boat Haven. Wondering if anyone knows anything about the progress of this and whether or not these vessels would replace the MSC or Coast Guard (I’m not sure which it is) chartered HOS boats that currently do the work out of Bangor. I was just curious. I’d like to get on with HOS at some point in the near future and would be kinda nice to be able to work a little closer to home. Granted escort duty isn’t really all that interesting. They get hazard pay or anything like that? Same day rate as the Gulf?

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**Author:** ![ryanwood86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@ryanwood86](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ryanwood86)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/2 "2013-04-23T09:58:00Z")

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I’m not sure about your questions but I can say good luck getting on them. there’s a waiting list to get on them.

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**Author:** ![Fraqrat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/fraqrat/32/1961_2.png) [@Fraqrat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Fraqrat)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 11:04am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/3 "2013-04-23T11:04:01Z")

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If he lives local has the bonafides and can get the security clearance he will get consideration. I’m sure there is a list of people meeting that criteria already waiting ahead of him.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Tar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jolly_tar/32/1914_2.png) [@Jolly\_Tar](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jolly_Tar)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/4 "2013-04-23T11:24:12Z")

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No one gave shit about ANY of that in Kings Bay - LONG list of personnel waiting for the opportunity to locate here. Schedule was funky too - 42on/21off. NO THANK-YOU

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;106796]If he lives local has the bonafides and can get the security clearance he will get consideration. I’m sure there is a list of people meeting that criteria already waiting ahead of him.[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![ryanwood86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@ryanwood86](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ryanwood86)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 11:38am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/5 "2013-04-23T11:38:11Z")

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[QUOTE=“Jolly Tar;106799”]No one gave shit about ANY of that in Kings Bay - LONG list of personnel waiting for the opportunity to locate here. Schedule was funky too - 42on/21off. NO THANK-YOU

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42/21 and go home every night and you would turn that down?! To each their own

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**Author:** ![Fraqrat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/fraqrat/32/1961_2.png) [@Fraqrat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Fraqrat)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:05pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/6 "2013-04-23T12:05:45Z")

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It was my understanding they were lookin for locals to cut down on travel costs. As far as schedule and all that I have no idea. Different division different pay different people in charge. I was just trying to give info based on my understanding.

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**Author:** ![dredgeboater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@dredgeboater](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/dredgeboater)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/7 "2013-04-23T12:10:17Z")

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The guys doing 42/21 were not going home every night. They are looking for people that live in the vicinity of the vessels to cut down on travel costs.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/quimby/32/3448_2.png) [@Quimby](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/8 "2013-04-23T12:17:11Z")

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> [@"Fraqrat"](#):
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> If he lives local has the bonafides and can get the security clearance he will get consideration. I’m sure there is a list of people meeting that criteria already waiting ahead of him.

I had to give up my secret clearance end of last year. Maybe there’s a chance. Will put that on my resume and queue up.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Tar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jolly_tar/32/1914_2.png) [@Jolly\_Tar](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jolly_Tar)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/9 "2013-04-23T13:41:04Z")

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CREW weren’t going home every night JUST the Captain.

And NO, I wouldn’t turn that down IF that were the case. A cook aboard BLACK POWDER and I were stationed together in Groton from 2004-2006 and that was my intel source in 2008. He wasn’t making great money either but then again I was making NY Money pushing oil.

[QUOTE=ryanwood86;106800]42/21 and go home every night and you would turn that down?! To each their own[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Tar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jolly_tar/32/1914_2.png) [@Jolly\_Tar](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jolly_Tar)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/10 "2013-04-23T13:42:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Quimby;106806]I had to give up my secret clearance end of last year. Maybe there’s a chance. Will put that on my resume and queue up.[/QUOTE]

Give up how? Did it just time out?

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**Author:** ![jmad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jmad](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jmad)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/11 "2013-04-23T13:53:10Z")

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Looking out my window at them now. Last I talked to captain year ago sounded like they couldn’t even get off the boats. Me being local to port Angeles they have always interested me

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/quimby/32/3448_2.png) [@Quimby](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/12 "2013-04-23T14:18:06Z")

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> [@"Jolly Tar"](#):
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> Give up how? Did it just time out?

I got out of the govt service. I had one with the CG and then with NOAA (not exactly sure why). They told me to do an exiting debrief and then from there I guess they do a termination of clearance. Not sure how employable a Secret clearance is. I heard that guys in the CG with TS clearances could get decent civilian positions.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/quimby/32/3448_2.png) [@Quimby](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/13 "2013-04-23T14:21:01Z")

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> [@"jmad"](#):
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> Looking out my window at them now. Last I talked to captain year ago sounded like they couldn’t even get off the boats. Me being local to port Angeles they have always interested me

Ya me too. Lived in PA for a while, but now across the sound. Wondered if they were set up for DP. Can’t say they’d really need it.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Tar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jolly_tar/32/1914_2.png) [@Jolly\_Tar](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jolly_Tar)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/14 "2013-04-23T14:34:43Z")

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I’m retired Navy and was under the impression they are good for 5 years. If yer not using it it might go in some type of ‘suspense’ category. You got nothing to lose saying it’s good until someone tells you it’s NOT good. The Security questionnaire needs to be re-done routinely ANYWAY to remain current. I filled one out in 2004 and retired in 2006. I filled out another when I started at Kings Bay in 2010 and FULLY expect to have to fill out another by 2015.

[QUOTE=Quimby;106821]I got out of the govt service. I had one with the CG and then with NOAA (not exactly sure why). They told me to do an exiting debrief and then from there I guess they do a termination of clearance. Not sure how employable a Secret clearance is. I heard that guys in the CG with TS clearances could get decent civilian positions.[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![rshrew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/rshrew/32/107_2.png) [@rshrew](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/rshrew)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/15 "2013-04-23T14:35:59Z")

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> [@"Quimby"](#):
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> Ya me too. Lived in PA for a while, but now across the sound. Wondered if they were set up for DP. Can’t say they’d really need it.

I would think so they have bow and stern thrusters, watching them dock at Bangor it looked like it was in DP.

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**Author:** ![george44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/898d66/32.png) [@george44](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/george44)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/16 "2013-04-23T14:45:31Z")

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HOS Dominator is one of em. I was working on a navy tug the past year and we’d do subs up at NAVmag Indian Island and see the escort boats coming in. They’re armed with 25mm cannon from what I’ve been told…

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**Author:** ![george44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/898d66/32.png) [@george44](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/george44)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/17 "2013-04-23T14:47:11Z")

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Forgot to mention it, but I’ve seen HOS post contract positions on MSC vessels, last year. I think this was for these positions.

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**Author:** ![Fraqrat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/fraqrat/32/1961_2.png) [@Fraqrat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Fraqrat)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/18 "2013-04-23T14:56:47Z")

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All of the vessels are DP2 just like the rest of the fleet. We only have a handful of older vessels that are not DP2. Some of these boats are being stretched and repowered to make them DP2 as we speak.

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**Author:** ![ryanwood86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@ryanwood86](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ryanwood86)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/19 "2013-04-23T15:11:35Z")

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[QUOTE=“Fraqrat;106831”]All of the vessels are DP2 just like the rest of the fleet. We only have a handful of older vessels that are not DP2. Some of these boats are being stretched and repowered to make them DP2 as we speak.[/QUOTE]

One old non DP 2 boat was sold today and the rumor is another one along with 2 tugs will be sold next week

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**Author:** ![Fraqrat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/fraqrat/32/1961_2.png) [@Fraqrat](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Fraqrat)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/msc-chartered-hos-boats-in-washington-state/10167/20 "2013-04-23T15:54:13Z")

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I wonder who bought it and for what reason?

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