# Mid-Atlantic Maritime Academy chief administrator among 4 charged in selling **URL:** \ **Category:** Maritime News\ **Created:** [October 27, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233 "2020-10-27T00:25:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kingrobby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kingrobby/32/68137_2.png) [@Kingrobby](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kingrobby)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/22 "2020-10-28T12:59:02Z")
This is the one I was thinking of, just took me a bit to find it. [https://gcaptain.com/louisiana-maritime-instructor-charged-with-selling-fake-dp-training-certificates/](https://gcaptain.com/louisiana-maritime-instructor-charged-with-selling-fake-dp-training-certificates/) ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/23 "2020-10-28T13:24:56Z")
The infamous Maurice at a DP school, I think he got federal time? ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/24 "2020-10-28T14:17:01Z")
And this: > [@License Fraud](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/license-fraud/5903): > > Not cool… Seamen charged in conspiracy to obtain merchant marine credentials Indicted for conspiring to manufacture and submit false documents [image]In a first for the district, a vessel captain, an engineer, a first engineer and an able bodied seaman and dynamic position officer have been indicted for conspiring to manufacture and submit false documents to the National Maritime Center to upgrade their certifications, United States Attorney José Angel Moreno and Coast Guard Investig… ---
**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/25 "2020-10-28T18:39:17Z")
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Sorry for my bit of schadenfreude ---
**Author:** ![shipengr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/shipengr/32/485_2.png) [@shipengr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/shipengr)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/26 "2020-10-28T19:57:48Z")
> [@powerabout](#): > > I think he got federal time? Surprisingly not. I looked that one up last night cause I was curious. While he faced up to 20 years in prison, he received no prison time. He got only 5 years probation and had to pay restitution of over $300K. While it looks like he falsified documents for over a hundred mariners, I couldn’t find out what, if anything, happened to the mariners. To me, in this current case as well, the mariners who are paying for the fake credentials are as equally criminal as those arrested for issuing them. Is that not news because the USCG didn’t get the list of customers? ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/27 "2020-10-28T23:30:05Z")
> [@shipengr](#): > > I couldn’t find out what, if anything, happened to the mariners. I think the NI did a comprehensive audit of Beier Radio’s DP school records vs those that submitted certificates from there and voided the DP certificates of those that cheated. I KNOW that they looked extra close at any application where someone took the class at Beier during that time. ---
**Author:** ![brendanlally](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/brendanlally/32/17548_2.png) [@brendanlally](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/brendanlally)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/28 "2020-10-30T17:21:39Z")
Agreed. Things are tough enough lately without this nonsense, which will make it more difficult for others trying to get ahead, especially for Hawsepipers (like me)… Brendan Lally Master AGT upon Oceans (ret) ---
**Author:** ![ItsJody](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/itsjody/32/9624_2.png) [@ItsJody](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ItsJody)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/29 "2020-10-31T01:24:28Z")
What’s the big deal? Academies do it all the time. Pay them 100k and you get nice shiny 3M license minimal effort. Oh boy I’ve pissed someone off. ---
**Author:** ![jimrr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jimrr/32/38358_2.png) [@jimrr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jimrr)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/30 "2020-11-05T16:26:06Z")
i assume the CME I got will be “baked in” and I’m ok? gawd, these people that think they can get ahead doing this bs … who do they think they are, Hillary? ---
**Author:** ![psquiggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@psquiggs](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/psquiggs)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/31 "2020-11-06T22:20:04Z")
I had heard of a guy at my company that turned in a fake cert for the advanced fire renewal class. I understand that the CG suspended his license for one year. ---
**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/32 "2020-11-06T22:31:52Z")
That would be rather minor, my concern would be upper licenses in the engine room and wheel house. They will show obvious inexperience for the “documents” produced and will be noticed after a short ride. ---
**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/33 "2020-11-06T23:27:01Z")
> [@psquiggs](#): > > CG suspended his license for one year. It would of been better if the CG made him do a public service announcement telling other would be cheats how much money he lost with the suspension in order to get his license back. ---
**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/34 "2020-11-06T23:31:47Z")
Ain’t easy to get any documents/upgrades. But damn harder if you cheat and get caught. ---
**Author:** ![jimrr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jimrr/32/38358_2.png) [@jimrr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jimrr)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/35 "2020-11-07T15:52:14Z")
didn’t john wayne say “lifes rough” … “it’s even rougher when you’re stupid” … ---
**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/36 "2020-11-07T16:42:26Z")
I like that one jimrr. ---
**Author:** ![jdcavo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jdcavo/32/108_2.png) [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/37 "2020-11-23T19:46:55Z")
> **[31 Individuals, Including Three Former Coast Guard Employees, Charged In Test...](https://www.justice.gov/usao-edla/pr/31-individuals-including-three-former-coast-guard-employees-charged-test-score-fixing)** ---
**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/38 "2020-11-23T20:58:41Z")
Don’t think this is gonna turn out as well as the prior handling of these type cases. It ain’t easy going legit by a longshot. But much harder now for the players in this old scheme. Wait till they get a hold of your computers and phones. And bank accounts in this day and time. (If they haven’t already). They didn’t get rich, but did something really stupid that most mariners on here wouldn’t touch with a 100 foot pole. ---
**Author:** ![mixednuts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/mixednuts/32/11999_2.png) [@mixednuts](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/mixednuts)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/39 "2020-11-23T21:21:36Z")
I was on the Orange and Black OSVs when that happened. I believe anyone that went to Bier had there books refused. Luckily I went to Konsburg ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/40 "2020-11-23T21:44:35Z")
> [@mixednuts](#): > > I believe anyone that went to Bier had there books refused. I know a guy that got hassled over it but his Bier certificate was ultimately accepted because he had proof he paid the school and attended. ---
**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233/41 "2020-11-23T22:42:43Z")
Dang, it went from 4 at 1 school to 31 that includes former employees of a REC. That probably needs a thread all by itself. [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mid-atlantic-maritime-academy-chief-administrator-among-4-charged-in-selling/57233.md?page=3)