# Mariner's day rate survey Jan 2010 **URL:** \ **Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\ **Created:** [January 22, 2010, 5:46am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264 "2010-01-22T05:46:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![richard8000milesaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@richard8000milesaway](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/richard8000milesaway)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 5:46am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/1 "2010-01-22T05:46:12Z")
Am curious to see how the last 12 months have affected our days rates industry wide. a few of you may remember my efforts from previous years. it is an interesting database and [U]it is important that we all know the going rates for our trade.[/U] Please feel free to post & share the most accurate information you may have as well as the companies. My input: Mooring Masters (Angola & Eq Guinea): US$3000/day Seacor Masters over 1600 tons oceans: US$575/day above with DP Cert add US$60/day Bourbon France pure DPO (no OICNW): US$740/day 2nd Mate & DPO: Bourbon France, Oceaneering: US$540/day offshore survey technicians: US$650/day needed: AB, OS, 100 ton, 500 ton, Ch/Off, 3rd Off, Master Unlimited, Master Unlimited with DP, all engineering, and any others you bloggers care to add. as always, this public information is for our own good and the more we all share the more we all benefit. ---
**Author:** ![HawspiperJeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/76d3ee/32.png) [@HawspiperJeff](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/HawspiperJeff)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 8:14am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/2 "2010-01-22T08:14:30Z")
\*NewYork AB’s for reinauer tugs make 365 a day. OS’s 255 \*100 ton ferry captains Boston make 15-20hr max hahahaha \*lauderdale Docking pilots 369K a year according to professional mariner!!! WOW ---
**Author:** ![skinny\_stick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@skinny\_stick](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/skinny_stick)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/3 "2010-01-22T10:02:50Z")
we should get paid alot more for what we do, 500 ton Captains and up should make at least a 1000 a day. ---
**Author:** ![Cal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Cal](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Cal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:20am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/4 "2010-01-22T10:20:49Z")
Great idea Richard! Reinauer’s Daily Rates can be found on their webpage, [Reinauer Daily Pay.](http://www.reinauer.com/RTCWeb/uploads/ReinauerDailyPay.pdf) Keep in mind that the rates shown INCLUDE $50.00 travel per diem with the exception of O/S’s. That said, I think it’s important to distinguish “Daily Rate” from “Compensation”. Before they locked down the information the contracts for all of Local 333’s companies were posted on their website. I have a copy of Moran’s contract and it is quite similar for Deckhands but has more categories for wheelhouse and engineering personnel. It is also interesting to note that the $50.00 travel per diem is not paid to an “O/S or the crewmember serving in that capacity”. If people have the desire I can copy the rate page and post it. Don’t have exact numbers for Bouchard but have heard $365.00 per day which probably includes their $45.00 travel per diem. Bouchard’s medical benefits, and cost thereof, have historically been hugely different from the other NY Tug companies. Maybe the highest daily rate, but you pay for it elsewhere. McAllister AB’s, working in that capacity, $265; O/S $235. Harbor Tug AB $180; O/S $160. Vane Brothers AB $230. ---
**Author:** ![HawspiperJeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/76d3ee/32.png) [@HawspiperJeff](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/HawspiperJeff)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 11:04am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/5 "2010-01-22T11:04:29Z")
[quote=skinny stick;25601]we should get paid alot more for what we do, 500 ton Captains and up should make at least a 1000 a day.[/quote] Don’t know any captains that are over $1000 a day, are they out there? ---
**Author:** ![cmjeff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/cmjeff/32/124_2.png) [@cmjeff](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cmjeff)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/6 "2010-01-22T12:13:25Z")
Well offshore Unlimited C/M’s with DP get about $190,000 /year including bonuses & extra pay which, I guess, equals about $1400 /day. Unlimited 2nd mates make only slightly less. Unlimited Captains with DP make about $225,000 which equals about $1700 /day ---
**Author:** ![anchorman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@anchorman](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/anchorman)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/7 "2010-01-22T12:15:58Z")
[quote=cmjeff;25604]Well offshore Unlimited C/M’s with DP get about $190,000 /year including bonuses & extra pay which, I guess, equals about $1400 /day. Unlimited 2nd mates make only slightly less. Unlimited Captains with DP make about $225,000 which equals about $1700 /day[/quote] I am certainly in the wrong damn business. ---
**Author:** ![cmjeff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/cmjeff/32/124_2.png) [@cmjeff](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cmjeff)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/8 "2010-01-22T12:20:05Z")
That being said, publishing rates online (or spreading them via email) can lead to wage [collusion](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collusion) (also called wage fixing) which makes this information potentially harmful. ---
**Author:** ![cmjeff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/cmjeff/32/124_2.png) [@cmjeff](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cmjeff)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/9 "2010-01-22T12:24:13Z")
[QUOTE=anchorman;25605]I am certainly in the wrong damn business.[/QUOTE] My math might be off and that’s just an [I]average[/I] for the better companies. It can vary highly depending on location, company, and bonus schemes. For example, I hear that a captain working in Nigeria gets a 20% overseas bonus and a 25% danger pay bonus. This adds up to a lot of money. ---
**Author:** ![CaptRob1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@CaptRob1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CaptRob1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/10 "2010-01-22T12:29:02Z")
Yea, this is a good one. I was recently working in the Gulf for a ROV company as Master, making $700 a day. Running a 254 foot vessel. I have a friend that works at Cal Dive, running as Master making $850 a day. Chief Mate is $750 a day (they want U/L licenses). ---
**Author:** ![anchorman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@anchorman](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/anchorman)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 12:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/11 "2010-01-22T12:31:59Z")
[quote=cmjeff;25607]My math might be off and that’s just an [I]average[/I] for the better companies. It can vary highly depending on location, company, and bonus schemes. For example, I hear that a captain working in Nigeria gets a 20% overseas bonus and a 25% danger pay bonus. This adds up to a lot of money.[/quote] It looks about what I have seen except Noble, which is WAY off on the low end, and Groupo R which is way over on the high end. I have had Master and Chief Mate offers on older stuff, but not on the newer generation stuff. ---
**Author:** ![rjbpilot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90ced4/32.png) [@rjbpilot](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/rjbpilot)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/12 "2010-01-22T16:52:42Z")
[quote=cmjeff;25604]Well offshore Unlimited C/M’s with DP get about $190,000 /year including bonuses & extra pay which, I guess, equals about $1400 /day. Unlimited 2nd mates make only slightly less. Unlimited Captains with DP make about $225,000 which equals about $1700 /day[/quote] Is that day for day? 6 month’s work? ---
**Author:** ![seadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@seadog](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/seadog)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/13 "2010-01-22T21:24:07Z")
ARTICLE X. JOB CLASSIFICATIONS AND WAGES 10.1 During the term of this Agreement, covered employees will occupy the following job classifications on the 010 equipment or vessels covered hereunder in the nurnber(s) shown: a. Twenty-four Hour Boat -1 Captain - 1 Mate -1 Engineer -3 Deckhands b. Davboat -1 Captain -1 Engineer -2 Deckhands 10.2 While operating or on board the Company’s 0/0 equipment or vessels, the covered employees shall be under the direction of and subject only to such person or persons as the Company may designate and appoint. 10.3 When working in the job classifications described above, the covered employees shall be compensated on either a Twenty-four Hour Boat Basis or a Day Boat Hourly Wage Rate (“boat compensation rate”) as follows: a. Twenty-four Hour Boat Basisi Captain $477.12 per day Mate $424.32 per day Engineer $425.69 per day Deckhand $308.88 per day b. Dav Boat Hour Wage Rates: Captain $39.76 per hour Engineer $35.47 per hour Deckhand $25.74 per hour 10.4 Neither Sections 10.1 nor 10.3 immediately preceding shall apply when vessels, as defined in Section 1.4 above, are engaged in towing scrap and aggregate south of the Tolchester Beach line and when towing scrap and aggregate to and from the ports of Havre-de-Grace and to and from the ports of Dover and Wilrninlmington, Delaware when transiting the C&D Canal to reach those ports. In such events, the following manning and twenty-four hour boat compensation rate (only) shall apply: 1 Captain $3 1 1.40 per day 1 Mate $249.00 per day 1 Engineer $249.00 per day 1 Deckhand $172.90 per day 10.5 The boat compensation rates listed in Sections 10.3 a. and b. and 10.4 shall be increased by three (3%) percent effective on the first pay period day’ following February 14, 2008; four (4%) percent effective on the first pay period day following February 14, 2009. 10.6 The daily rates shown in Sections 10.3, a. and 10.4 (and as subsequently adjusted) shall be payable for any time that is worked in the classifications set forth in Sections 10.1 and . 10.4 above during any specific twenty-four (24) hour working period as presently established by the Company and for all successive twenty-four (24) how periods worked thereafter. Other than for the operations described in Section 10.4 above, starting times within the twenty-four (24) how working periods shall be fixed by the Company for three (3) month intervals from March 1 to December 1 each contract year; provided, however, said times may be adjusted as the Company deems fit between the hours of 6:00 a.m. and 12:Ol p.m. each day. During the months other than March 1 to December 1 of each contract year, starting times may be set in the Company’s discretion. Starting times for the operations described in Section 10.4 above reside solely in the Company’s discretion. 10.7 Twenty-four hour crews shall work no more that one (1) week on and one (1) week off. Nothing contained in the Agreement shall, however, be construed as a guarantee of hours per day or days per week. 10.8 All work performed at the Section 10.3, a. and Section 10.4 rates shall be perfonned at straight time rates. 10.9 Covered employees who perform work at the Section 10.3, b. rate shall be paid at straight time rates for ten (1 0) hours, regardless of the number of hours actually worked and at an overtime rate of time and one-half the stated hourly wage rate for all hours worked in excess of such ten (10) hours in any twenty-four (24) hour work period. All hours of work in any specific twenty-four (24) hour work period, as established by the Company, shall be consecutive. 10.10 From the effective date of this Agreement to the last pay period day immediately before February 14, 2008, the Company will pay each covered employee the amount of 15.50 per day actually worked as reimbursement for food. Annually thereafter the amount shall be increased by Forty (.40) cents per day actually worked through the expiration date of this Agreement. The grub money will be sent via check payable to the Captain or his designee in writing. The Captain or his designee must provide weekly receipts for the grub purchases equal to -tha~m ount of the check to conform with the Internal Revenue Service requirements of an "accountable plan". Any difference between the check amount and the weekly receipts for grub is considered taxable income to the Captain or his designee and will be disclosed as such on an annual IRS Form 1099. 10.1 1 From the effective date through the expiration date of this Agreement, the Company will compensate one (1) person per boat, per week $70.00 for the purchase of grub. ---
**Author:** ![skycowboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@skycowboy](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/skycowboy)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/14 "2010-01-23T00:35:02Z")
Gulf Resource Captain 100 Ton $280.-330. a day Engineer $138 Deck Hand $100 OUCH ---
**Author:** ![cmakin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cmakin](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cmakin)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/15 "2010-01-23T00:56:54Z")
[quote=skycowboy;25636]Gulf Resource Captain 100 Ton $280.-330. a day Engineer $138 Deck Hand $100 OUCH[/quote] Ouch is right. Back in 83, I was making 160/day as an engineer with Crowley, and I had lots of OT. Made about 210 a day on an ATB in the mid 80s (plus vacation time and bonus). ---
**Author:** ![c.captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/c.captain/32/807_2.png) [@c.captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/c.captain)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/16 "2010-01-23T01:54:04Z")
[quote=cmjeff;25604]Well offshore Unlimited C/M’s with DP get about $190,000 /year including bonuses & extra pay which, I guess, equals about $1400 /day. Unlimited 2nd mates make only slightly less. Unlimited Captains with DP make about $225,000 which equals about $1700 /day[/quote] I am sorry to say that I am sceptical because I want what you say to be true but can you tell me where these numbers come from? Transocean? Pride? Frontier? Diamond? We know that it is not Noble or ENSCO. Is it the foreign drilling companies that are being so generous? Who is it…the world wants to know! ---
**Author:** ![captfish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/captfish/32/53826_2.png) [@captfish](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/captfish)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/17 "2010-01-23T13:45:09Z")
[quote=HawspiperJeff;25599]\*NewYork AB’s for reinauer tugs make 365 a day. OS’s 255 [/quote] $365 / Day for regular ABs??? Are you talking tankermen?? ---
**Author:** ![Cal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Cal](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Cal)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/18 "2010-01-23T14:18:38Z")
> [@captfish;25682](#): > > $365 / Day for regular ABs??? Are you talking tankermen?? Check the link, AB’s make $289.20 plus $50.00 travel per diem for a total of $339.20… ---
**Author:** ![anchorman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@anchorman](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/anchorman)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 6:25am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/19 "2010-01-24T06:25:47Z")
[QUOTE=c.captain;25642]I am sorry to say that I am sceptical because I want what you say to be true but can you tell me where these numbers come from? Transocean? Pride? Frontier? Diamond? We know that it is not Noble or ENSCO. Is it the foreign drilling companies that are being so generous? Who is it…the world wants to know![/QUOTE] Groupo R is one. They got the Larson rig. Master is $270,000 1/2 year. The rest is what was quoted. ---
**Author:** ![captainbry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/captainbry/32/1130_2.png) [@captainbry](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/captainbry)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 7:06am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264/20 "2010-01-24T07:06:23Z")
Bouchard AB as of now get a daily rate of 243$ plus 45$ travel per diem. [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/mariners-day-rate-survey-jan-2010/3264.md?page=2)