# Living condition on OSVs

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768>\
**Category:** Offshore\
**Created:** [June 9, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768 "2025-06-09T15:17:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/1 "2025-06-09T15:17:36Z")

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> **[Offshore vessels get the Tripadvisor treatment - Splash247](https://splash247.com/offshore-vessels-get-the-tripadvisor-treatment/)**
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> A seafarer has launched a new website, OffshoreShipAdvisor.com, designed to serve as a Tripadvisor-style platform for seafarers and offshore workers. The goal is to allow crewmembers to rate and review living conditions onboard vessels, helping to...

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> Seafarers are invited to rate ships on this new site, looking at categories including accommodation, downtime facilities, food and drink, wifi, and cleanliness.
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> An update today will take the number of vessels covered on the site to 37,400. While it has with an offshore focus, there are plans to cover other types of commercial vessels.

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**Author:** ![jbtam99](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jbtam99/32/65499_2.png) [@jbtam99](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jbtam99)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/2 "2025-06-09T15:33:55Z")

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Well that should make for some interesting discussions once the folks on the bayou start seeing what OSVs and PSVs in Europe are like.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/3 "2025-06-09T15:50:29Z")

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There are some US -flag vessels on this list, You could try to find your vessel here:

> **[Offshore Ship Advisor - improving life at sea](https://www.offshoreshipadvisor.com/)**
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> Supporting the seafarer community by sharing both positive and negative experiences from life onboard vessels. Search your vessel and add your thoughts.

PS\> None among the highest rated, but two on the list of lowest rated. 😟

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/4 "2025-06-09T15:59:12Z")

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No matter how bad these maritime Yelp reviews get for the OSV’s, as long as the site doesn’t translate over to Tagalog or Hindi the boat operators will always have people to crew them. And even if they do translate over, as long as they pay more than a rickshaw puller they’ll still get the crew.

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**Author:** ![ItsJody](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/itsjody/32/9624_2.png) [@ItsJody](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ItsJody)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/5 "2025-06-09T16:05:55Z")

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Those cousin f\*\*\*\*\*\*s don’t care. As long as the gumbo is hot they keep comin!

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**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/6 "2025-06-09T16:22:16Z")

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That is funny but true. 🤣

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**Author:** ![Hogsnort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@Hogsnort](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hogsnort)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/7 "2025-06-09T19:04:51Z")

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Sailed on both the Bayou version and European. The former had hardwired ear phones hanging from the deck head so you could hear the TV. If you slept under a bridge you would regard it as luxury.  
Built in Norway there was no machinery noise, heated bathroom tiles, changing rooms for dirty gear, ergonomically designed controls and good vis from the bridge. I did I mention the AC?

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/8 "2025-06-09T21:04:35Z")

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> [@Sand\_Pebble](#):
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> as long as the site doesn’t translate over to Tagalog or Hindi the boat operators will always have people to crew them.

You mean to say that Filipinos and Indians are ignorant of how bad conditions are on US-flag OSVs because the don’t understand English?

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/9 "2025-06-09T22:00:35Z")

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> [@ombugge](#):
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> ignorant of how bad conditions are on US-flag OSVs

What the heck are you talking about with “US-flag OSVs”? Is that what this thread & that OSV’s comfort level ranking site is supposed to be about? Trashing US flagged OSV’s?? All this time I thought you were a seasoned international maritime professional & you want to pretend US flagged vessels are the worse?? Have you ever visited a Mexican flag ship? An Angolian flagged OSV? I can name really bad flags all day long. I’ve sailed on a nearly freaking brand new Chinese built OSV & I’m sure some Chinese prisoners had it better than what I experienced. About my Tagalog & Hindi reference, what I was saying is, no matter how bad we think OSV living might be, it’s still better than watching your family starve & doing without. Poor people will always get the job done if they are desperate enough.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:24am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/10 "2025-06-10T11:24:26Z")

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> [@Sand\_Pebble](#):
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> All this time I thought you were a seasoned international maritime professional

Well your first though is correct.

In case you want to compare CVs:  
I worked in maritime related fields from 1959 until retirement in 2016.  
Since 1974 mainly in the offshore oil & gas field in various positions.

My first involvement with US-flag OSVs were in 1970, as “Navigator” for a Bayou company operating in S.E.Asia.

Since then I have been dealing with lots of US built/US-flagged boat, rigs, construction barges and ships. (Not so many after 1990s, though)  
Mainly as Rig mover, MWS, Marine Adviser and in various management positions in many parts of the world.

I have also been dealing with foreign built, flagged and manned OSVs etc. (incl. Chinese owned, built and manned) so I’m able to compare.

PS\> My post #8 was as much a comment in refr. to jbtam99, ItsJody and tengineer1 as to you. (Tongue-in-cheek)

BTW: The rating of vessels are not only about where they were built and are flagged, but as much about the living and working condition, cleanliness, food and access to wifi/internet etc.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:34am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/11 "2025-06-10T11:34:17Z")

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I know you go back to the old Halter Marine and UT 704s, but also have experience from newer version of OSVs of various design/built. 👍

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**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/12 "2025-06-10T11:36:21Z")

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for them its pay not conditions.  
I know one well known operator in Asia, (nice boats) ( that we all know) they got HR to work out how much to keep a family alive in their home country and that was the pay

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/13 "2025-06-10T12:15:15Z")

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> [@powerabout](#):
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> for them its pay not conditions.

It has been the same for me more times than I like to admit. I’ve stayed in uncomfortable places/operations longer than I should have because of the higher pay but I’ve also taken pay cuts because I wanted to work certain vessels or locations. To each their own. As with most review services, the more reviews from different people the better to hopefully delute out the maritime Karens & lazy p.o.s with axes to grind. I hope that OSV review sites gets a lot of feedback on vessels covered.

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/14 "2025-06-10T12:36:59Z")

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More on the subject in Splash 24/7 today:

> **[Ship shape or ship shame? Review site gives crews the power - Splash247](https://splash247.com/ship-shape-or-ship-shame-review-site-gives-crews-the-power/)**
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> Workers at sea have reacted positively to the launch of a platform to allow crewmembers to anonymously rate and review living conditions onboard vessels with the site’s creator keen to get all shipping sectors involved.  Despite its name,...

Apparently not all Shipmanagement companies are against this idea:

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> Splash readers have widely applauded the initiative while warning of the legal risks involved.
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> “Knowledge is power and hopefully the true state of a vessel can be shared and people encouraged onto the good, and able to avoid the bad while the ugly get shunned and sanctioned,” noted Steven Jones, the founder of the Seafarers Happiness Index, while Frank Coles, a maritime consultant and former CEO at shipmanager Wallem, described the concept as brilliant.  
> “The trick will be to maintain anonymity while keeping the veracity and integrity so that meaningful change can be pressured upon those who abuse the welfare of seafarers,” Coles said.

> [@powerabout](#):
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> I know one well known operator in Asia, (nice boats) ( that we all know) they got HR to work out how much to keep a family alive in their home country and that was the pay

As you know there are shortage of qualified seafarers in the traditional countries that supply officers and crew for the world’s fleet of ships, incl. OSVs. (Philippines & India)

Maybe you could “name and shame” that company?  
Maybe that way they will have problem finding crew for the (nice) boats.

DO YOUR PART FOR YOUR FELLOW SEAFARERS OF THE WORLD!!!

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/15 "2025-06-10T12:54:04Z")

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I hope the Captains are allowed to reply to the crews comfortability reviews, the same how hotel managers can reply to guests reviews on other sites.

“Thank you assistant engineer for your positive review & staying with us. We hope you visit again. It’s reviews like yours that compelled me to into the maritime trade. Sincerely, Capt So-&-So”

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“Dear AB, we’re sorry your time on the M/V Seasick didn’t meet your expectations. My staff & I work very hard to make everyone stay enjoyable & we promise to do better next time. Chief Mate Cares.a.lot”

By allowing the Captains to reply, it will really show how much they care about all of our opinions & comfort on board.

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**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/16 "2025-06-10T13:56:38Z")

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> [@ombugge](#):
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> Maybe you could “name and shame” that company?  
> Maybe that way they will have problem finding crew for the (nice) boats.

the 3rd world keeps supplying people whose life is so bad they will work for food and shelter, any money is a bonus.  
Malaysia filling up with paki’s and iranians working under poor conditions on the land as they are illegals. Seemed to have pushed the illegal Indo’s out of a job.

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**Author:** ![AKBJR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@AKBJR](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/AKBJR)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/17 "2025-06-10T16:22:54Z")

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Made a few back-to-back runs up the Karnaphuli years ago, docking downtown Chittagong. We acquired a regular helper in the galley named Onil, who wanted only rice, milk, and sugar for his labors. He also procured jungle juice for us, a dangerous game for all involved. In the end, we forced him to accept a good chunk of taka.

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**Author:** ![shipengr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/shipengr/32/485_2.png) [@shipengr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/shipengr)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/18 "2025-06-10T18:09:55Z")

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> [@Sand\_Pebble](#):
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> I hope the Captains are allowed to reply to the crews comfortability reviews, the same how hotel managers can reply to guests reviews on other sites.

“I sincerely apologize if the Excessive Masturbation Cleaning Fee was not clearly communicated at the time of your booking.

I’ve also used your persistently clogged vac-toilet as a teaching moment with our team.

Please accept our offer of a complimentary O’Doul’s upon your next visit.”

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/19 "2025-06-10T19:01:29Z")

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> [@powerabout](#):
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> the 3rd world keeps supplying people whose life is so bad they will work for food and shelter, any money is a bonus.

Last I checked there were seafarers from “3rd world countries” holding down jobs as Master, Cheng etc., holding licences per STCW and paid a decent salary.  
Many of them working for the same reputable Ship owning/Shipmanagement companies for years and not having any more issues or accidents than seafarers from so called “first world countries”.

The problem is rather that even those seafarers are getting older and the recruitment of young people to replace them is difficult:

> **[World’s largest shipmanager debuts initiative to tackle ageing officer...](https://splash247.com/worlds-largest-shipmanager-debuts-initiative-to-tackle-ageing-officer-demographics/)**
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> With the global maritime industry grappling with a tightening talent pool, ageing officer demographics, and rising demands for digital and adaptive skills, Anglo-Eastern, the world’s largest shipmanager, has unveiled Mission 30, a landmark initiative...

Here is what the world’s largest Shipmanagement company Anglo-Eastern is do about it:

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> To reverse this trend and fast-track talent development, Mission 30 introduces a suite of support measures tailored to young officers and cadets including personalised career ladder maps, and targeted training and assessment.
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> “Our goal is to create structured, transparent pathways to leadership at sea,” said Singh. “We invite all young seafarers to seize this opportunity—to grow faster, lead sooner, and become the next generation of maritime professionals. With the right support and ambition, we can help them reach new heights in their sea career before 30. We look forward to helping them get there.”

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**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/living-condition-on-osvs/72768/20 "2025-06-10T23:48:20Z")

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Blue water is a bit different than offshore as not going to western countries where they might get inspected.

Gom fleet when does that go international?  
In asia  
Thai fleet stays in thailand  
Malaysian Fleet stays in Malaysia  
Indo fleet stays in Indo

There are 3 anchored in Singapore and thats it. Would be lucky to have one come and go each month.

Saying that the Dutch crewed owned dredge that t boned an oil tanker in Singapore was run so poorly bridge and eng crew were charged.

> **[4 crewmen on Dutch dredging boat that caused worst oil spill in Singapore in...](https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/4-crewmen-on-dutch-dredging-boat-that-caused-worst-oil-spill-in-singapore-in-a-decade-charged)**
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> Merijn Heidema, Martin Hans Sinke, Richard Ouwehand and Eric Peijpers were the boat's crew members at the time. Read more at straitstimes.com. Read more at straitstimes.com.
