# ‘I Had The US Navy By The B\*lls’ Says Fat Leonard In New Podcast Series **URL:** \ **Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\ **Created:** [September 26, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761 "2021-09-26T18:03:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/1 "2021-09-26T18:03:50Z")
This should be good. and right here on gCaptain! ---
**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 12:37pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/2 "2021-09-27T12:37:27Z")
For more details. > **['I Had The US Navy By The B\*lls' Says Fat Leonard In New Podcast Series](https://gcaptain.com/fat-leonard-podcast/)** > > by John Konrad (gCaptain) Fat Leonard is the worst scandal to hit the US Navy since Tailhook in 1991, but – despite 33 federal indictments, 22 guilty pleas and tens of millions... ---
**Author:** ![27SAFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/439d5e/32.png) [@27SAFE](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/27SAFE)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/3 "2021-09-28T02:56:31Z")
So…that photo doesn’t have ONE USN person in it and that’s NOT a USN ship. BS. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/4 "2021-09-28T12:51:37Z")
Low an behold a few years ago, at a bbq chatting and a guy says he works for NCIS, so I say intersting, any need for that in Singapore he said yes as we spend lots of money here… I wonder which side he was on? ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/5 "2021-09-28T13:25:58Z")
Was that Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs? ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/6 "2021-09-28T14:49:07Z")
no he was a little shorter ---
**Author:** ![john](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/john/32/5_2.png) [@john](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/john)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/7 "2021-09-28T17:02:26Z")
Well, If you find a photo of Fat Leo aboard of U.S. Navy ship that’s in the public romain then please send it to me and I will correct the post 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Seadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/67e7ee/32.png) [@Chief\_Seadog](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Chief_Seadog)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/8 "2021-09-29T01:01:33Z")
The picture was taken on the Glenn Braveheart. A landing craft vessel originally the Sir Lancelot before going under different names, governments and owners. ---
**Author:** ![DeckApe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/deckape/32/1271_2.png) [@DeckApe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DeckApe)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/9 "2021-09-29T01:41:05Z")
What’s the big deal? Bribery. Prostitution. Special treatment. The horror! I thought this was a forum for mariners; you know, people who are well acquainted with gifting pilots boxes of cigarettes, seeing the master hand over a paper bag of money to the pilot’s assistant, handing over gifts from the port authority to the master who hands these out to the officers, the crew running ashore to buy drinks for girls (and boys) a third of their age. Oh, the horror. You know what else is horrifying? The grass. Its green! And the sky. It’s blue! Oh the humanity! I hope the podcast has sordid and graphic details so it’s at least interesting. ---
**Author:** ![DeckApe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/deckape/32/1271_2.png) [@DeckApe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DeckApe)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/10 "2021-09-29T01:59:01Z")
Let me be clear. The USN still, to this day, pays a premium for port services. Call it what you will - unscheduled changes, short term changes, one time services, security, secrecy, non-standard service. The fact is the legitimate costs charged to the Navy are exorbitant. It is simply a bribe writ large. We pay these service fees to everyone. We pay them to our friends. (Why do you think they are our friends?) As someone once said, “Loyalty isn’t bought, it’s rented.” The only problem with the Fat Leonard scandal was the leaking of the unseemly parts. The other part about the money - the cost to rent our friends - still goes on today and will never end. Therefore, the only interesting part of the podcast will be if it has graphic details about sex and parties. But I doubt it. Not in today’s day and age. ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/11 "2021-09-29T03:16:52Z")
The big deal was many of your USN top level staff committed treason and gave away ship positions. I wonder if they were/are doing that today for the enemy with the same payment terms? ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 10:39am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/12 "2021-09-29T10:39:59Z")
Sir Lancelot in British India management and colours until 1971: ![lanctroop](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/1/7/175d63f0d254170340738fa9104c9c20e578ab29.jpeg) PS\> My Father in Law, Capt. A.J.Walker, was Master on her for several years in the 1960s. He turned 96 in Aug. this year. Still going strong and still living in Singapore. In RFA management and colours from 1971 - 1989: ![RFA-Sir-Lancelot](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/4/7/476d3c1d013f5e100f6788a141285eb545479ba8.jpeg) As Gambling ship Lowland Lancer in Cape Town, 1990-92: ![Lowland_Lancer](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/9/9/99621f025fb694d2a4cbbe5d38470823d0d3fc8d.jpeg) Belonged to the Singapore Navy as RSS Perseverance, 1994 - 2003: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/0/0/006a37d1ace903e3979ca9fa364b787d653b3235.jpeg) As Glenn Braveheart: ![Glenn Braveheart](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/7/6/7686f1523f70dac4c4ffcbd22040156f635c783b.jpeg) Own picture taken at Glenn base, Pandan, Singapore, 2006. [http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3297735](http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3297735) ---
**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/13 "2021-09-29T16:49:03Z")
> [@DeckApe](#): > > I thought this was a forum for mariners; you know, people who are well acquainted with gifting pilots boxes of cigarettes, seeing the master hand over a paper bag of money to the pilot’s assistant, handing over gifts from the port authority to the master who hands these out to the officers, the crew running ashore to buy drinks for girls (and boys) a third of their age. Oh, the horror. I think the message is the hypocrisy of the USA. The corruption via the USA has been for many years no better than “banana republics” and the oligarchies of Russia, Mexico, Brazil and China which the USA likes to criticize. Fat Leonard just tells a tale of an inconvenient truth that will never be publicized in detail by CNN, CBS, Fox, Newsmax or any other “mainstream” media.It doesn’t take a genius to figure out why. ---
**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/14 "2021-09-29T21:33:29Z")
> [@tengineer1](#): > > an inconvenient truth that will never be publicized in detail by CNN, CBS, Fox, Newsmax or any other “mainstream” media. Ok…just to keep things honest here…I went to the WAPO website, typed “Fat Leonard” into the search engine, and came up with over 50 news stories, opinion, and analysis pieces on the scandal since it broke. So to say _no_ mainstream media is covering the scandal is stretching a point…That being said, NYT has only two stories in that same time span. Just saying… ---
**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/15 "2021-09-30T04:28:24Z")
Most people don’t read newspapers. ---
**Author:** ![DeckApe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/deckape/32/1271_2.png) [@DeckApe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DeckApe)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 1:35am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/16 "2021-10-02T01:35:54Z")
> **[The Man at the Center of a Shocking U.S. Navy Scandal](https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-man-at-the-center-of-a-shocking-u-s-navy-scandal-11633014000)** > > Procurer, protector, supplier for all needs: Leonard Francis claims that he made himself indispensable to the U.S. Navy. Then he became the star witness in a sweeping corruption probe. The excessive contracts continue to this day. A little sea story for you that happened after the Fat Leonard scandal hit. A big ship wanted to anchor out. They wanted a real fancy tender to ferry them to shore. (The tender had such amenities as a coffee bar.) The tender required a very big breasting barge. The breasting barge cost more than $700,000 for ten days. Navy was cool with it. Barge was brought alongside. For reasons the CIVMARs could have explained to the Navy beforehand if the Navy had bothered to ask us… the barge wouldn’t work. So they sent it away and got small tenders on a new RFP. I didn’t see what that cost but they were very upset. No coffee bar on the way to shore! Before you think this was a one-off, I got more sea-stories. Other CIVMARs have theirs, too. Lots of this kind of shit going on to this day. Hey, what would you pay for an expresso machine for your boat? $12,000 sound about right? ---
**Author:** ![Hogsnort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@Hogsnort](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hogsnort)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-had-the-us-navy-by-the-b-lls-says-fat-leonard-in-new-podcast-series/60761/17 "2021-10-02T18:08:18Z")
Good to see they are drinking decent coffee.😁😁 Know a guy with a horse truck. Room for six horses in the back with an RV section on the front it cost about $550,000 to custom manufacture and has the same brand of espresso machine.