# I am off my nut!...c.captain is today again a vessel owner!

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**Created:** [May 15, 2013, 10:57am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313 "2013-05-15T10:57:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![john](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/john/32/5_2.png) [@john](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/john)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/21 "2013-05-15T16:06:49Z")

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> [@"c.captain"](#):
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> what are you insinuating sir? You have a problem with “real” boats? PT boats were built of wood too you know!

I am aware of that fact and it’s one of many reasons why, despite wanting one, I don’t own one 😉

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**Author:** ![c.captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/c.captain/32/807_2.png) [@c.captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/c.captain)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/22 "2013-05-15T16:33:11Z")

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[QUOTE=catherder;109535]Right here sonny![/QUOTE]

well isn’t this just effing great! get my vessel just in time to go blind for the rest of my life! How am I gonna get in and out of the Ballard Locks now?

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**Author:** ![c.captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/c.captain/32/807_2.png) [@c.captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/c.captain)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/23 "2013-05-15T16:40:48Z")

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[QUOTE=john;109538]I am aware of that fact and it’s one of many reasons why, despite wanting one, I don’t own one ;)[/QUOTE]

aw, you’re just a little scared is all! It takes a courageous man to own a sound wood boat…it take a stoopid man however to own a rotten one (or command one in the case of Robin Walbridge)

The key is to start with a sound one and never let is become anything less which requires only one simple magical word to achieve…

maintenance!

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**Author:** ![Traitor\_Yankee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/traitor_yankee/32/876_2.png) [@Traitor\_Yankee](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Traitor_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/24 "2013-05-15T17:18:04Z")

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> [@"john"](#):
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> I am aware of that fact and it’s one of many reasons why, despite wanting one, I don’t own one 😉

It’s why I own an Edey & Duff Stonehorse and not a wood one…or a wooden Hinckley Pilot that has been haunting my dreams

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**Author:** ![DredgeBoyThrottleJoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DredgeBoyThrottleJoc](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DredgeBoyThrottleJoc)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/25 "2013-05-15T21:26:46Z")

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> [@"c.captain"](#):
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> aw, you’re just a little scared is all! It takes a courageous man to own a sound wood boat…it take a stoopid man however to own a rotten one (or command one in the case of Robin Walbridge)
> 
> The key is to start with a sound one and never let is become anything less which requires only one simple magical word to achieve…
> 
> maintenance!

Congrats c.captain! Just think, you’ll never wake up in the morning wondering what you should be doing. (one of the joys of owning a wooden boat)  
An effing Jimmy? Well at least the wood’ll quiet 'er down some… All that erl in the bilge kills the worms (On the inside, anyway)  
Ahhh, the second happiest day in a mans life… Looks way more fun than an old Ford torredo…

Cheers

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**Author:** ![mhnydn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@mhnydn](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/mhnydn)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/26 "2013-05-15T23:58:36Z")

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The magic word is actually “money”… Everyone should own a wooden boat once, but eventually you’ll realize what a horrible idea it was. (it took me about 4 years)

[QUOTE=c.captain;109541]aw, you’re just a little scared is all! It takes a courageous man to own a sound wood boat…it take a stoopid man however to own a rotten one (or command one in the case of Robin Walbridge)

The key is to start with a sound one and never let is become anything less which requires only one simple magical word to achieve…

maintenance![/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![c.captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/c.captain/32/807_2.png) [@c.captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/c.captain)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:08am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/27 "2013-05-16T07:08:39Z")

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[QUOTE=mhnydn;109574]The magic word is actually “money”… [/QUOTE]

Oh, you are so right there with that but I try to do all the work on her myself so hopefully not so much money as it might take. Shopping already for a new genset and a radar (both second hand of course!)

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**Author:** ![Jetryder223](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Jetryder223](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jetryder223)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:50am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/28 "2013-05-16T07:50:30Z")

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Ebay and “Boats & Harbors” magazine are your friends.

The past 3 summers, I worked at a marina that specialized in restoring wooden boats.

You can probably pick up a used 7.5 kW Onan for cheap money. Working takeouts are easy to find as boaters upgrade to newer, quieter and more fuel efficient models. The screaming Jimmie is probably a naturally aspirated unit kicking out 300 bhp plus or minus. Even at 8500 hours, it may have some time before needing a rebuild. We had a customer at our marina that had a wooden trawler with a pair of DD 4-53 NA’s from 1959 that stared instantly, never smoked and never had the heads off.

Biggest concern I would have is soft spots on the transom or bow stem. That could get expensive. The mold is no issue at all. Clean it up with a strong detergent then coat it with an antimicrobial sealcoat. Google “Permawhite” or “Fiberlock” or “Fosters” for some good products.

There is another “God Sent” product you should be aware of. CPES or Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealant. Customers swear by it. Use it and wood substrate will be impervious to moisture, stains or rot.

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**Author:** ![c.captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/c.captain/32/807_2.png) [@c.captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/c.captain)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 8:27am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/29 "2013-05-16T08:27:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Jetryder223;109593]Ebay and “Boats & Harbors” magazine are your friends.

The past 3 summers, I worked at a marina that specialized in restoring wooden boats.

You can probably pick up a used 7.5 kW Onan for cheap money. Working takeouts are easy to find as boaters upgrade to newer, quieter and more fuel efficient models. The screaming Jimmie is probably a naturally aspirated unit kicking out 300 bhp plus or minus. Even at 8500 hours, it may have some time before needing a rebuild. We had a customer at our marina that had a wooden trawler with a pair of DD 4-53 NA’s from 1959 that stared instantly, never smoked and never had the heads off.

Biggest concern I would have is soft spots on the transom or bow stem. That could get expensive. The mold is no issue at all. Clean it up with a strong detergent then coat it with an antimicrobial sealcoat. Google “Permawhite” or “Fiberlock” or “Fosters” for some good products.

There is another “God Sent” product you should be aware of. CPES or Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealant. Customers swear by it. Use it and wood substrate will be impervious to moisture, stains or rot.[/QUOTE]

Jet my friend…if you ever need a job call me!

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**Author:** ![Jetryder223](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Jetryder223](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jetryder223)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 8:51am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/30 "2013-05-16T08:51:39Z")

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[QUOTE=c.captain;109595]Jet my friend…if you ever need a job call me![/QUOTE]

Got a GoM DP apprentice job opening?

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**Author:** ![c.captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/c.captain/32/807_2.png) [@c.captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/c.captain)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 9:36am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/31 "2013-05-16T09:36:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Jetryder223;109598]Got a GoM DP apprentice job opening?[/QUOTE]

graduate and I’ll help steer you to a DP job in the GoM if that is what you want but be careful for what you wish for…DP’ing in the GoM is no panacea of delights and adventures. It is a good paycheck though so I guess you can buy the delights during your time off. You can also buy old Fords and wooden boats too. To paraphrase Garret Morris… “da Gulf been very, very good to me!”

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**Author:** ![Lookout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b3f665/32.png) [@Lookout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Lookout)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/32 "2013-05-17T16:35:17Z")

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[QUOTE=c.captain;109503]I have not owned a vessel since the late 80’s…shows how I am steadily slipping into a weird and life destroying form of dementia buying old trucks and cars and now 51 year old boats! I should invest my money for my retirement but instead keep buying more and more old shit!

pics are going to have to come in the future when I go down to move her. The kegerator is as big as a house…do you see the size of those booms on her? You can rig yard and stay with them and load aboard by the pallet load!

Sadly, using her for my dream of a night raid on KP is going to be problematic being that she is on the wrong side of the continent yet my dreams will never die. Btw, the least of KP’s worries would be that we only moon them! I say shellfire is more appropriate! Add my ship now to the Command and Control Vehicle and Steve McGarrett Stealth Mobile and I am set to raise insurrections and then vaporize into the hinterland while the authorities search in vain for me. Just need a 20mm Oerlikon to mount on her in case anyone’s got an extra one lying around.

 ![](http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/oerlikonpic.jpg)

Much as the traditions say not to, I need to a rename for her. Can’t have that name for my ship. Any suggestions from the peanut gallery?[/QUOTE]

C captain, Try this baby on KP, it will Git-r-dun  
[ATTACH=CONFIG]3454[/ATTACH]

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/33 "2013-05-18T05:28:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Jetryder223;109593]  
There is another “God Sent” product you should be aware of. CPES or Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealant. Customers swear by it. Use it and wood substrate will be impervious to moisture, stains or rot.[/QUOTE]  
I’m partial to System Three Epoxy’s rot fix product for this use. They make a pretty good epoxy putty too. I’ve been getting it cheaper at Dunn Lumber than Fisheries Supply.

I sailed by your fine vessel many times since she was moored adjacent to Seattle Yacht Club for the last years of her NOAA service.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/34 "2013-05-18T06:04:05Z")

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That’s kind of like the Ford vs Chevy truck debate.

Go to Wooden Boat forum and there’s a lot of discussion on various fixes.

Whatever you do, avoid the product “Git-Rot” sold at West Marine and other hobby boater outlets. That stuff is worthless.

C.Captain - Only use these magic potions to treat rot where removal of the affected lumber is problematic. It is always better to replace bad wood than to treat/patch it. The other use for penetrating epoxy is as a preventative. These products provide the best presevative properties possible for new wood going into damp spaces.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 6:06am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/35 "2013-05-18T06:06:58Z")

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[QUOTE=c.captain;109541]aw, you’re just a little scared is all! It takes a courageous man to own a sound wood boat…it take a stoopid man however to own a rotten one (or command one in the case of Robin Walbridge)

The key is to start with a sound one and never let is become anything less which requires only one simple magical word to achieve…

maintenance![/QUOTE]

Great decision here, the maintenance of wood boats has always been a part of my life having owned a Harold Hansen seiner and known the seine fleet owners for some time, there has never been a better time to own a good wood boat. A product worth mentioning here is Sikkens Cetol Marine, a clear used for exterior and interior hard woods. Looks great, applies very uniformly, beats salt water spray, rain water, wash downs and freezing. I cannot say enough about the quality and low maintenance this product has given me over a ten year span. Congrats on the choice too of an ED MONK design, one of the highest rated in the west coast troll industry for years. Before you shove off for Southeast Alaska, I can mark some spots on the charts if you like.

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**Author:** ![Jetryder223](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Jetryder223](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jetryder223)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 6:18am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/36 "2013-05-18T06:18:34Z")

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Cetol is a good product but it is not permanent. Excellent UV resistance, it’s used mostly on trim where a rich natural finish is desired. Problem is it will peel and chip over time.

I forgot to mention, the epoxy sealants do not hold up to UV so if you are using them on the exterior, you have to paint over it after treatment.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 6:48am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/37 "2013-05-18T06:48:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Jetryder223;109758]Cetol is a good product but it is not permanent. Excellent UV resistance, it’s used mostly on trim where a rich natural finish is desired. Problem is it will peel and chip over time.

I forgot to mention, the epoxy sealants do not hold up to UV so if you are using them on the exterior, you have to paint over it after treatment.[/QUOTE]

It will crack if left on its own. I didn’t see it for two and a half years tho, and it was on the forward windows of the house which had spent a good amount of time exposed to nasty seas between Kodiak and Sitka, then in port under snow, rain and freezing winter weather. Should have mentioned, it became necessary for a light sanding and another application, easy fix with good weather. Finding good weather was my problem.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 9:11am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/38 "2013-05-18T09:11:51Z")

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Name suggestions:  
PT-73 or c.T-73

Good luck with your new (to you) command!

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 9:48am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/39 "2013-05-18T09:48:36Z")

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[QUOTE=CaptMarc;109763]Name suggestions:  
PT-73 or c.T-73

Good luck with your new (to you) command![/QUOTE]

That’s good.

Keeping with the PT-73 theme, how about M/V Ernest or M/V Borgnine?

Or maybe we’re all over thinking this and should just go with “C.Captain”.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/i-am-off-my-nut-c-captain-is-today-again-a-vessel-owner/10313/40 "2013-05-18T11:25:57Z")

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[QUOTE=CaptMarc;109763]Name suggestions:  
PT-73 or c.T-73

Good luck with your new (to you) command![/QUOTE]

How about M.V. “Matsuda’s Folly” ?

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