# How much longer?

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292>\
**Category:** Scuttlebutt\
**Created:** [April 5, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292 "2025-04-05T21:10:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/21 "2025-04-06T13:17:45Z")

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No. I’m a facts and logics activist. 😇

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**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/22 "2025-04-06T13:43:14Z")

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40,000 already gone who volunteered

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**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/23 "2025-04-06T13:45:53Z")

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Yep the only USA company smart enough to export from his subsidized factory in China.

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**Author:** ![spowiednick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/spowiednick/32/35668_2.png) [@spowiednick](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/spowiednick)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/24 "2025-04-08T10:43:52Z")

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> [@ombugge](#):
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> No. I’m a facts and logics activist.

Are You ??? So says Soros.

FACTS

Facts without a framework with which to interpret them, do not  
constitute an argument. !!!

Facts do not ‘speak for themselves’.  
They need to be analysed, explained and provided with a context.  
Otherwise they are, quite literally, meaningless.

Facts can be manipulated and there is certain “logic” in it

One is facts and logics activists for some and for OTHER facts MANIPULATOR.

I am paraphrasing your logic regading “freedom fighters” & " terrorists" from your other smart posts 😜

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/25 "2025-04-08T14:02:35Z")

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> [@spowiednick](#):
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> Are You ???

You really are a Doubting Thomas, Of course I am!!

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/26 "2025-04-08T16:57:33Z")

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How much longer before 🤛?:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/8/f/8f0e701258e55929ab48a6435befc84a44c60679.jpeg)  
Source: [Redirecting...](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BziFoHR1B/)

How much longer before the “Brownshirts” make an appearance?:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/8/d/8dbb1b3ef20670d437f553b3bdb9b70bdb34a15d.jpeg)  
Source: [Redirecting...](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/167Jzhxfne/)

Or have they already?:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/0/2/020ef1fddecc9625c90ba99e370a8dbba0ff53f0.jpeg)  
Seth Herald/Anadolu/Getty Images  
Source: [Proud Boys Trademark Being Used by Black Church for Shirts](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/proud-boys-trademark-black-church-shirts-1235265640/)

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/27 "2025-04-09T16:00:27Z")

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I was of the impression that the present administration didn’t want any more immigrants to enter the US workforce?  
Now I see USA is inviting people to apply via the Green Card Lottery:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/9/e/9eb55e53b17d2fc321d7cffa21803e227fc62e7f.jpeg)  
Nordic citizens are eligible to apply - Green Card Lottery!  
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americ24.com  
 ](https://paid.outbrain.com/network/redir?p=TdAf8yWlaHQny_HruW-fDe5FT6YUDiI83LP4miJzOIYmOSFfTFn6ZPvmTHDh8LI1luXuaGhkH5553ylry1N4L6fJfm3wgYtU2AFlFEKmW1BvDUq46dtSqAg8DyY-eHZjc6SC5AEIGaI8ZzuklOD3rao-stNsKuGi_w1AJkFbo80jNsmKRjKDM4CKMtRwpA1GQMNrd43u7V83n9XnKf6CsfbSMEUD_ffAFvBEHnNnGMyubNIx8if78oY6vkAxHPecvf2E6x7yoXIoK-8C08FFruNKe85GXCm4XBhOH8GzSGQp9iiQBoAxJsjoSFZhZ9pcsozk8pD1Hx9X3fljUkI5NvYtclbh78Fy5RzLJwb0O3jMNussMSoe7qSUn9E9_32qh8q2S9PWuOoIaRuUOXVcJ3a7oDo7b0ZO92HIpGMnx7V6yWMrdFXEjpV1TQ03dg5nCHA0B02irWlTi_dp8IAA0Rabf61PczneRtgDqCLPFithw0BAbv4-dv0h4tdKCgTF9ti9xDSv5dy9y8-N_GWzWwR7AUkgcKZXZoOIO9j-WcXNqxe3kHh5h0jj9IGWPR2Bt4SiczQ9rS6rknyFkZQXJMSyr6vBZxZ_E3Vk9zfvvqpY5u1GowQQLRvo_T_uiYasFiCOiFjnED5Z4VvVCDYFtkhpqwkzZ3bjrk6RVZXl0IxNedlXb7RwXb8jdF9jUO6yEvCH8eDBBpc-k_A-5uxqbiKNi6Wg-xA3AXT4W6DLPBGCzJH7EbhRq4viifa0CmJHOpSgs9FiYOObaRtY2aGvg__mrM09bH5TjGHQCMXAFtlXH3kLyI0GzahdcqIXx_Q4-GJd5K5bEtQfGkWp0_zcKODKITsM8DoZqprDBqNeaEuX0tJAIZ6w-qsFLXc1dBeb-8AEF97IiKbHZ06t91JPYdLZWRKJtIFtYnDfQPtZP0AmxsKdW6BM3xrRoyhQq0OMBS2Ns08O2HuH4LD_jWmGp5RlkZfF-Xd7aIoNhFfgWbIW8Nf2QlVeEoLq9IDUnhsCGzo3M3w8pHbMv7jPCPFbXBl_4vJkbJgY0hxTOPB3Mj9-o53kiKOHL8cdjQxKijvpPUwzHHmmnoqy6OWqZcF7oOQRPQIjqcz-kyxJ1qpRsKd_HcY_zRZ709sk97EnLXX-GOToaSEB02LYDtJSTwWsGrrmT3r1TK1fuDiYCLMOzNWYSkb78U_Wvwg6EqdOoQJq&c=39155c44&v=4)

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> **The pre-registration period for the Green Card Program will end on 11/04/2025.**  
> **Applicants are required to determine their eligibility and complete the pre-registration process by the end of this date.**  
> Registration Deadline  
> 01Days 05Hours 07Minutes 05Seconds
> 
> **Securing a Future in the United States**  
> The Green Card Lottery Program:  
> The United States issues 55,000 Green Cards every year through the Diversity Visa Program, commonly known as the Green Card Lottery.

PS\> I wonder how many Nordic applicants there are this year?  
Maybe there are more US applicants for Nordic visas this year?

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**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/28 "2025-04-09T16:38:23Z")

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> [@ombugge](#):
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> I wonder how many Nordic applicants there are this year?

I don’t see this working. They are too tall to pick vegetables.

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/29 "2025-04-09T16:39:10Z")

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> [@tengineer1](#):
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> They are too tall to pick vegetables.

🤣

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**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/30 "2025-04-09T17:01:23Z")

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> [@tengineer1](#):
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> hey are too tall to pick vegetables.

And too smart to move from the most livable countries in the world, were there are security “from cradle to grave”, to a country where you never know when there are no security. 😇 😖

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/31 "2025-04-09T18:00:03Z")

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> [@ombugge](#):
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> And too smart to move from the most livable countries in the world, were there are security “from cradle to grave”, to a country where you never know when there are no security. 😇 😖

This speaks to cult mythology. In cult mythology all of Europe is a socialist hellhole, ready to fall apart tomorrow.

That’s why the cult got so emotionally invested in Brexit. Europe was dragging Britain down, they said.

The opposite was true. The average Briton now thinks Brexit was a mistake because since then the EU’s economy has fared much better than Britain’s. Britain’s economy tanked. That’s why they ran through so many prime ministers after Brexit.

A lot of cult members have never been to Europe. They just listen to whatever youtube video/podcaster has caught their fancy, and those commentators keep pushing the myth that Europe hates America and is a hellhole.

[https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/)

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**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/32 "2025-04-09T18:12:19Z")

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The thread is How Much Longer Can This Go On.  
Well the US government aka Trump just blinked pausing tariffs on everyone including the penguins except for China.  
This will stabilise things 😂

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**Author:** ![spowiednick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/spowiednick/32/35668_2.png) [@spowiednick](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/spowiednick)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/33 "2025-04-09T18:35:14Z")

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Yeah. Even the worst criminals love it there. Prison cells better then Day’s in appartments . 😜

[Anders Breivik: Just how cushy are Norwegian prisons? - BBC News]([Anders Breivik: Just how cushy are Norwegian prisons? - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35813470)

And BTW -BBC has also utube channels.

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/34 "2025-04-09T19:22:56Z")

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> [@tengineer1](#):
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> They are too tall to pick vegetables

That Trump is a problem solver! No need to import communist ladders from China if we can hire cheap Norwegian fruit pickers!

 ![apple tree](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/2/9/29fa460f696f30915e380bf216e37c0ae584afa7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![The\_Commodore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4af34b/32.png) [@The\_Commodore](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/The_Commodore)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/35 "2025-04-09T20:10:55Z")

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He blinked or other countries agreed to negotiate hence a 90 day pause? Tough to tell it depends on where you get your news from.

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**Author:** ![DavidMT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@DavidMT](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DavidMT)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/36 "2025-04-09T21:42:25Z")

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He folded up.like a cheap suit

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**Author:** ![244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/a3d4f5/32.png) [@244](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/244)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/37 "2025-04-09T22:17:04Z")

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Excuse me

I am an average Brit.

I voted remain.

The following day I was screaming at the TV shouting " It’s f££k all to do with you now we are out.

Democracy, the majority voted leave.

It was the stupidous thing I have ever done in my life, vote remain.

Glad to have the EU and it’s corrupt government at arms length.

Let’s just hope those daft buggers that voted for the orange man feel the same

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**Author:** ![244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/a3d4f5/32.png) [@244](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/244)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/38 "2025-04-09T22:21:45Z")

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Oh and BTW

Are you lot not just a tad embarrassed by tonight’s news from the orange man.

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**Author:** ![244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/a3d4f5/32.png) [@244](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/244)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/39 "2025-04-09T22:23:43Z")

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Can anyone do a link?

Try YouTube, Kevin Bloody Wilson,  
“What’s Donald gonna do Today?”

From his last bunch of chaos

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/how-much-longer/72292/40 "2025-04-09T22:32:20Z")

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> [@244](#):
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> Are you lot not just a tad embarrassed by tonight’s news from the orange man.

I’ve been embarrassed for him for many years now. Why should tonight be any different?

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