How are the supermarkets holding out where people live?

Story on the news there is a new shortage Freezers 4-6 week waitlist.

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I don’t think it was the results of the pandemic that caused the shortages. I think it was fear & the stay at home orders that put things to a halt. The masses will react to the second wave the way the media & politicians tell them. Others will hardly be scared at all during the next wave regardless of what the media tells them. Also, antibody tests are real popular in my area & are being advertised everywhere. Hopefully during the next wave we have less fear, better treatment options for those who show symptoms & tens of millions with immunity.

That the distribution network has become so specialized hasn’t helped. At the same time we are hearing of farmers that have to dump crops and livestock as they used to sell exclusively to large users like restaurants and a are not able to package in smaller quantities for individual consumers. So it’s not a food shortage per se.

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Evidently inside meat-packing plants cold moist air is circulated.

IN TEXAS, THE fastest growing Covid-19 outbreak isn’t in Dallas or Houston or San Antonio, the state’s most densely packed metro areas. It’s hundreds of miles to the north, in the dusty, windswept flatlands of Moore County, population 20,000. According to data reported Monday by the state health department, 19 out of 1,000 residents in Moore County have so far tested positive for the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19—10 times higher than the infection rates in the state’s largest cities.

The meat slaughtering and processing industry is among the hardest hit by the pandemic. At least 167 plants have had outbreaks, sickening at least 9,400 people, primarily workers. At least 45 workers have died, according to the media outlets’ tracking.

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It would be an ideal time to break up the meat monopolies. They are being investigated for price fixing now but I doubt much come of itl


The system doesn’t seem to have a lot of excess capacity built in. That would be an expense to build and maintain. As I read about farmers killing piglets or crops plowed under I’d figure that’s loss against need, not against excess capacity. The system seems to be compensating in the form of frozen hamburger, frozen vegetables, or spreading the back shelf items to the front. That makes we wonder how much time before before decompensation begins. Not the whole thing at once - just an item now and another later.

I’ve noticed not to shop on Monday. The shelves seem to empty over the weekend and don’t quite fill back up.

For whatever reason, can’t find rice, or dried beans. Only went to 2 places though.

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The shelves have been stocked for the past 3 weeks in my county. Plenty of TP and paper towels. Rubbing alcohol is the only thing missing. There has been no weekly specials since all of this BS started. No price gouging but I have noticed slight price increases. Duly noted and will be brought up at the next town hall meeting.

What part of the country do you live in?

I had to sit back and laugh at myself today. Something as simple as being able to find a 6 pack of paper towels or a 4 pack of toilet paper can brighten my day and make me feel like a real winner.
I was able to secure two bottles of spray-on hand sanitizer from my local cvs yesterday. However, i can swear i am spraying a combination of vodka/gin on my hands. The smell is enough to make ya woozy.

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Texas gulf coast.

The simple things are the most comforting sometimes. This shit just ain’t right.

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My family took a USDA buyout in 1991 to STOP making milk for 25yrs because there was too much on the market, and that was only 120ish cows, you drive 1hr north or west of me and a “small farm” is 300+. The milk plant which supplies alot of the schools for NYC is 20 miles from me, they dont know what to do with it because ? No schools and the packaging and supply system isnt set up to change, no diff than some of these slaughterhouses. The video of the pig farm in Minnesota running the animals thru a large horizontal grinder into a dug pit is all about taxes, and it’s a shame because of all the people who could have been fed but these huge farms are set up to grow animals just like crops on a cycle. Seeing alot of farmers in NY - PA bottling milk, beef cows havent dropped in price much here.
How many of you have seen the videos coming out of china with the pigs ? I’m not up on this with what can contract Covid as far as animals but what I saw was shocking.
This with the toilet paper is the biggest fucking scam possible, pulpmill / papermills here are dropping the price knowing guys ramped up the supply, the amount of businesses ruined or bankrupted from this shit is far beyond the people unfortunately killed, NY is going to be a fucking wasteland if things dont come around in 30-60 days.


The school district where one of my kids goes paid for the milk & some food for the rest of the year in advance & the supplier delivers the little boxes regardless. When picking up the first homework weekly packet the people at the school tossed in a few boxed lunches & a dozen boxes of milks & juices. We told them that we didn’t get free lunches & didn’t want the food, milk & juice. They replied that the stuff was going to go bad & they had to get rid of it because they were tired of throwing it away when it expired. So we took ours to the food bank & they said they weren’t accepting any more prepared meals or small boxes of milk but would take the 8 small juice boxes, small cereal containers & uncut fresh produce. So for the last 6 Wednesdays we have been getting free milk, prepared sandwiches & other food crap that public schoolkids eat. If we are going across town for something we will drop off what we can at the foodbank but it really isn’t worth a 40 minute round trip drive to drop off 4 apples, 8 juice boxes, peanutbutter crackers & sugary individual cereal boxes.

My wife is making more off of unemployment than she did with her job & we get free milk & mystery meat sandwiches now? There’s a lot of weird shit going on with this pandemic fiasco IMO.

Of course the mills are going to try to screw the loggers when the price is dropping but the main reason pulp prices are dropping is because the economy is slowing down so less demand.

There is no shortage of toilet paper but a shortage in the type of people buy for at home use and too much of the stuff used for commercial that people used to use at work. This imbalance is expected to ease over time as the paper companies adjust.

I recall people talking about how the demand for the high quality paper that S.D. Warren Paper company used to make dropped when people stopped buying encyclopedias. More gradual shift however.

There were occasional shortages but our isolated community was doing ok when access was limited to residents. 6 days ago, the restriction was lifted for NRPOs. They were asked to bring their own supplies but now there are shortages of perishable items and of course, toilet paper. 6 days from now, all entry restrictions will be lifted and tourists will begin to arrive. We’ll see if the supply chain can adjust.

In Seattle:
Odd inconsistencies between stores. Plenty of gel hand sanitizer in some chain supermarkets. But other big chains don’t have any. The big chain drugstores have none. Instead, they sell bottles of grain alcohol sanitizer in wine bottles and airplane-sized mini bottles.

Distilleries here churn out liquid sanitizer. It’s kept behind the cashier’s area, because it’s just scented Everclear.

Paper products are on the shelves, but you still can’t find an oral thermometer anywhere for love nor money.

A few cuts of fresh meat are being rationed. You can’t buy more than a few pieces. But frozen meat is plentiful.

The proportion of people wearing masks in store keeps going up. Probably 9 out of 10 now.

Supermarkets making land-office business. New faces behind the counters. The older cashiers are staying at home, to avoid exposure.

Gonna change Lee_Shore. Too soon for that area.

Since the lockdown here only my wife has been to the supermarkets. That means there are a few things missing that used to get slipped into the trolley such as bier sticks etc.
95% of New Zealand’s milk products are exported through a farmers cooperative and the farms are generally family owned and are highly automated. A farm near me has 3 robotic milking machines and the cows decide themselves when they want to be milked. The busiest time is between midnight and 02:00. The merry go round shed where the stalls are segments and the whole thing revolves are also popular. A single family can milk about 700 cows.

I will be damm glad with this lockdown passing . The missus could give tips to a grizzled old bosun in keeping the crew employed. The sooner she gets back to playing bridge the better painting things has never been a leisure pursuit of mine.