# Honest opinion, how bad do you think this is going to get?

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922>\
**Category:** Scuttlebutt\
**Created:** [April 8, 2020, 5:25am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922 "2020-04-08T05:25:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/21 "2020-04-16T18:04:40Z")

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Perhaps, but is that reply helping things?

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**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/22 "2020-04-16T18:09:12Z")

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If it helps to change one vote to one against Trump it will do far more good for American than anything Trump has done since birth.

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**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/23 "2020-04-16T18:10:50Z")

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Agree, you have one vote, use it wisely.

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**Author:** ![CoastalTrader](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/coastaltrader/32/71776_2.png) [@CoastalTrader](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CoastalTrader)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/24 "2020-04-16T18:13:13Z")

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Number one on the list: avoiding the consequences of his criminal activities.

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/25 "2020-04-16T18:20:48Z")

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How bad are things going to get?

Our economy is based on people making things that aren’t needed, for people who can’t pay for them. When this shaky edifice collapses, we call it a “recession". We find that some of the wealth we thought we had never existed, so we panic and hide what money we have.

Eventually we get brave. Money reenters the system, either from spending, or, in the 21st century, something called quantitative easing. This is called a ‘bull market”.

If everybody hoards their money, or the government doesn’t increase the amount of money available, then the recession gets worse. Money stays under mattresses. The prices for things fall. This is called a “depression".

Right now, if given the money, people will spend it as soon as they have the opportunity. So, IMO the chance of depression is slight. We will soon get back to making things that people don’t need for people who can’t afford them.

The long term problem is debt. Quantitative easing done rarely is beneficial. Like a jolt from a defibrillator to a stopped heart. Not ideal, but necessary. But do it repeatedly, and pile on debt (four trillion in three years), and you have long term problems.

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**Author:** ![SeaEagle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seaeagle/32/17788_2.png) [@SeaEagle](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/SeaEagle)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/26 "2020-04-16T18:25:59Z")

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Our country has been in debt for many,many decades. No matter what party. I voted for either side, whatever party served me “The least worst”.

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**Author:** ![Bayrunner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/bayrunner/32/966_2.png) [@Bayrunner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bayrunner)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/27 "2020-04-16T19:45:58Z")

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I’ll be happy when the commune’s internet gets cut, then maybe this can go back to being a forum about maritime matters and not a political forum where a few cases of TDS derail EVERY FUCKING THREAD with their bullshit.

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**Author:** ![DeckApe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/deckape/32/1271_2.png) [@DeckApe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DeckApe)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/28 "2020-04-16T20:03:05Z")

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> [@freighterman1](#):
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> Our economy is based on people making things that aren’t needed, for people who can’t pay for them.

Good description. However it needs a slight correction:

> Our economy is based on people **buying** things that aren’t needed, **by** people who can’t pay for them.

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**Author:** ![DeckApe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/deckape/32/1271_2.png) [@DeckApe](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DeckApe)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/29 "2020-04-16T20:10:26Z")

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> [@Bayrunner](#):
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> be happy when the commune’s internet gets cut, then maybe this can go back to being a forum about maritime matters and not a political forum where a few cases of TDS derail EVERY FUCKING THREAD with their bullshit.

Sorry, shipmate! That’ll happen about the time a vaccine for COVID-19 is deployed and we can all go back to work, head out on vacation to some shithole third world country or get wasted with ugly new friends at the neighborhood bar.

You need a hug?

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**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/30 "2020-04-16T20:16:21Z")

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> [@Bayrunner](#):
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> derail EVERY FUCKING THREAD

That’s what happens to people who need a “rail” to follow, they are unhappy when their train goes off the tracks and into the real world.

The rail in this case might be best described as the qualities and characteristics of a cult or its leader.

[http://cultresearch.org/help/characteristics-associated-with-cults/](http://cultresearch.org/help/characteristics-associated-with-cults/)

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/31 "2020-04-16T20:18:51Z")

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Never have so many had so much time and bandwidth to vent about so much, so accurately.

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Lee\_Shore](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Lee_Shore)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/32 "2020-04-16T20:23:32Z")

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Trump’s approval rating hasn’t suffered much. Sleepy Joe is in for a brawl and BDS is just around the corner.

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**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/33 "2020-04-16T20:29:59Z")

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There are many who see a different approval rating:

> **[Trump's Job Rating Slides; U.S. Satisfaction Tumbles](https://news.gallup.com/poll/308675/trump-job-rating-slides-satisfaction-tumbles.aspx)**
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> President Donald Trump's job approval rating, now 43%, has slipped six percentage points since his 49% rating in mid-March.

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Lee\_Shore](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Lee_Shore)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/34 "2020-04-16T20:34:11Z")

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6 percentage points for anyone who’s watched his latest clown shows is not encouraging.

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**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/35 "2020-04-16T20:39:22Z")

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Considering that only his cult followers rate him preferable to a venereal disease, that 6 percent had to have been from them. That percentage drop means a lot.

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**Author:** ![freighterman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/freighterman1/32/11176_2.png) [@freighterman1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/freighterman1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/36 "2020-04-16T20:42:40Z")

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> [@Lee\_Shore](#):
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> Trump’s approval rating hasn’t suffered much. Sleepy Joe is in for a brawl and BDS is just around the corner.

The Dow could drop another 5,000 points, a million people could be dead, and most of the people who voted for the incumbent will still vote for him.

It’s not about reason. It’s about religion. He’s a god (small G) to many, and you don’t turn your back on a god because of an occasional plague or famine. His people are invested in him. They have worship services they call rallies, and matching caps, and everything.

He doesn’t need to get a majority of the public behind him. He’s not trying to win the popular vote. All he needs is to swing 78,000 votes and secure the Electoral College to win. Worked last time

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**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/37 "2020-04-17T00:20:50Z")

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Remember that by definition half the voters are of below average intelligence. Might be one reason why the guys that set up the USA didn’t want everyone to vote and it was 1828 before white men without land could vote.

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**Author:** ![CoastalTrader](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/coastaltrader/32/71776_2.png) [@CoastalTrader](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CoastalTrader)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/38 "2020-04-17T00:29:03Z")

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That’s right. Those 6 pts. are essentially a “death sentence”. There is a floor like you’ve described however. There is a definite limit as to how low it can go for Trump.

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**Author:** ![Hawespiper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@Hawespiper](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hawespiper)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/39 "2020-04-17T00:39:32Z")

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> [@tengineer1](#):
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> half the voters are of below average intelligence. Might be one reason why the guys that set up the USA didn’t want everyone to vote

You’re right, democrats (small d) should tie voting rights to IQ test results. Let’s see how that would mesh with the same groups you so desperately pander to.

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**Author:** ![RiverRats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f17d59/32.png) [@RiverRats](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/RiverRats)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/honest-opinion-how-bad-do-you-think-this-is-going-to-get/54922/40 "2020-04-17T00:44:43Z")

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Then Cheeto wouldn’t be able to vote for himself. If you believe his BS about having a high IQ, then you wouldn’t be able to vote, either.

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