Here is a great story in the making

I love these stories! it is really going to be something special when “Big Boy” is able to get steam up again and roar down the tracks as she once did a way long time ago…

[B]Huge Big Boy steam locomotive coming back to life[/B]

Associated Press By DAN ELLIOTT April 15, 2014 9:40 AM

CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) — In its prime, a massive steam locomotive known as Big Boy No. 4014 was a moving eruption of smoke and vapor, a 6,300-horsepower brute dragging heavy freight trains over the mountains of Wyoming and Utah.

It’s been silent for half a century, pushed aside by more efficient diesels, but now it’s coming back to life. The Union Pacific Railroad is embarking on a yearslong restoration project that will put No. 4014 back to work pulling special excursion trains.

“It’s sort of like going and finding the Titanic or something that’s just very elusive, nothing that we ever thought would happen,” said Jim Wrinn, editor of Trains, a magazine that covers the railroad industry.

“Something that’s so large and powerful and magnificent, we didn’t think any of them would ever come back,” he said.

The American Locomotive Co. in Schenectady, N.Y., built 25 of the monsters to Union Pacific’s specifications between 1941 and 1944, and they became legendary. They were the largest steam locomotives ever to work the rugged terrain of the American West, and by most standards the largest anywhere in the world, said Gordon McCulloh, a meticulous historian of Union Pacific steam power.

Even the name is legendary. An unknown worker scrawled “Big Boy” on the front of one of the engines when it was under construction.

“It came out one day, and it had ‘Big Boy’ in chalk on it. And from that day forward, it was Big Boy,” said Ed Dickens Jr., Union Pacific’s senior manager of heritage operations, who will oversee the restoration at the railroad’s steam shop in Cheyenne, Wyo.

Dickens and his crew recreated the chalk inscription on No. 4014 when they began to move it.

Big Boys are 132 feet long, including the tender, which carried coal and water. They weigh 1.2 million pounds with a full load of fuel. They are essentially two engines under one boiler, with two sets of eight drive wheels, each set powered by two enormous cylinders nearly 2 feet across.

Big Boys are so big that the front set of drive wheels has to pivot separately from the back set to get around curves.

And they aren’t just big, McCulloh said. They were engineered to reach 80 mph, even though the railroad never intended to run them that fast. The point was to fine-tune the locomotives so they stayed in balance at any speed and didn’t beat themselves up with their own powerful forces.

“You get all that machinery to live in harmony,” McCulloh said.

Their enormous bulk also hid some slick engineering, including a suspension system that kept the drive wheels pressed against the rails when the locomotive straddled hills or valleys.

Seventeen Big Boys were scrapped when they were pulled from service, but eight survived and are on display around the country. Union Pacific chose the 4014 for restoration because it spent more than 50 years in the friendly climate of Southern California, at the RailGiants Train Museum at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds.

The museum took good care of the locomotive, Dickens said, and many of the original components are usable.

RailGiants agreed to give the Big Boy back to the Union Pacific in exchange for some other equipment to display.

No. 4014 has been moved from the museum to a Union Pacific shop in Colton, Calif., where a crew is preparing to tow it across Nevada, Utah and Wyoming to Cheyenne, arriving May 8. The UP maintains two other working steam locomotives there, and Dickens and his crew of seven can manufacture almost anything they need.

“This equipment, nobody’s going to come in and fix it when it breaks down,” he said. “We’re it.”

Restoration is expected to take three to five years. The railroad would like to have the Big Boy operating by 2019 for the 150th anniversary of the driving of the Golden Spike in Utah, which linked the Union Pacific with the Central Pacific and completed the first transcontinental railroad.

It’s too early to predict where the restored locomotive will travel. Railroad officials said they will have to choose the routes carefully to make sure bridges and tunnels can handle the Big Boy’s weight and size.

Overjoyed railroad fans are following closely. Wrinn heard from an American soldier serving overseas who was watching live video of the project. People have offered to donate money or even buy lunch for the Union Pacific steam crew, Dickens said, but he allowed that the Omaha, Neb.-based railroad — No. 138 on the Fortune 500 list — can afford the project on its own.

Dickens declined to say how much restoration will cost. It might be less than people think, he said, because the railroad can do much of the work in-house.

Pouring money into a 73-year-old mechanical relic makes good marketing sense, said Glen Gilmore, a digital and social media marketing expert who also teaches at Rutgers University.

“Nearly everyone has a fascination with trains,” Gilmore said in an email to The Associated Press. “Giving people an image that immediately calls to mind so many good things about an industry and brand is a smart marketing move.”

Fantastic! Am adding a ride on one of their excursion trips to my bucket list.

Took a ride on the 261 from Minneapolis to Milwaukee about 8 years ago. Those steam engines are marvelous!

[QUOTE=water;135637]Fantastic! Am adding a ride on one of their excursion trips to my bucket list.

Took a ride on the 261 from Minneapolis to Milwaukee about 8 years ago. Those steam engines are marvelous![/QUOTE]

absolutely nothing in the world more impressive than a huge steam locomotive thundering down a set of tracks…

the only possible exception would be a 1000 four engined WWII era heavy bombers flying overhead but we ain’t never going to see that one in our lives!

[QUOTE=c.captain;135638]absolutely nothing in the world more impressive than a huge steam locomotive thundering down a set of tracks…[/QUOTE]

My grandfather drove the Great Northern Railroad version of the Big Boy, the Mallet. I have his pocket watch that rode a million miles behind the throttle.

Steamer - What sections of the GN did they use the Mallet? And what a treat to have that watch. If only it could talk…

Picked up a DVD in the $5 bin at BestBuy one time of short train promotional films produced by different railroads just after WWII. Great clips of both steam and diesel, humping in the yards, etc. Fun to watch.

Yes, I’m old enough to vaguely remember steam engines when they were still in use…

[QUOTE=water;135653]Steamer - What sections of the GN did they use the Mallet? [/QUOTE]

It was before my time as well but I recall my father saying they were used to carry ore from the mines in Duluth(?) to Superior where they lived. My grandfather died when I was very young so I never had the chance to talk to him, unfortunately.

My best memory of a steam locomotive is one of walking along the tracks near where I lived near Camp Hill, Pennsylvania when I was young. I remember distinctly that it was colder than a tanker mate in Valdez in the winter and I was all hunched up with my ears covered and hands deep in pockets walking on the roadbed just off the ties. Out of nowhere, the biggest, blackest, thunderingist beast on the planet nearly knocked me over with the wind and steam as a Pennsy loco blasted past … I just about pissed myself with fear and then pure excitement! I would love to do that again!

Back in the 70s I worked on a tug that hauled a caustic soda tank barge with chlorate tank cars on deck to a paper mill just north of Campbell River, BC. As incredible as it sounds, they used an oil fired Shay to pull the tank cars off the barge. A diesel switcher wouldn’t work because of the slope if the tide was low and the little Shay could pull them with no problem. I used to ride in the cab while they were pulling and it was more fun than starting an old Cleveland 16-278 on a cold day. That thing would be shut down by the EPA in a heartbeat today, it smoked like an idling boiler with a burner with the tip blown off.

My great uncle was a b17 pilot and decorated/successful, (until the end, unfortunately, MIA Europe…Czech), we see a few every year in my area and you can pay for a ride on one! Just a pair of them overhead is awe inspiring.

Steamer - If you ever pass through Duluth MN, there is a restored Yellowstone class Mallet in the train museum. It was used on the Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range railroad to haul ore.

[QUOTE=z-drive;135667]My great uncle was a b17 pilot and decorated/successful, (until the end, unfortunately, MIA Europe…Czech), we see a few every year in my area and you can pay for a ride on one! Just a pair of them overhead is awe inspiring.[/QUOTE]

I know, there is a B17 and a B24 which visit my local airport every year and last year I heard the B17 overhead before I saw it…I had to pull over to scan the skies and there it was…a great majestic bird in the sky. I watched it mesmerized for as long as I could see it until it flew out of sight. There is something about the sound of those great powerful radial engines to stir the soul!

Can you imagine what a flight of B29s would have sounded like?

These planes come to my local airport every year- I go see them every chance I get! How I envy those who experienced flying these machines (and survived)!


enjoy y’all…


what boy didn’t want to be Casey at the throttle? whooo, whoooooooo!

Depends which end of the flight path you were on!

[QUOTE=Traitor Yankee;135702]Depends which end of the flight path you were on![/QUOTE]

indeed sir…very true indeed!

Back in 2004, we made a trip up to Steamtown in Scranton, PA. They have one of these monsters sitting outside. All that I can say is WOW. It would be a trip of a life time to be able to take a ride on one of these beasts.

If any of you are ever in the Scranton area Steamtown is worth visiting.

I keep hoping that Norfolk Southern will pull the 611 from the railroad museum and get her back in shape to do the excursion trips.

I dont think it will happen though.

It’s no Big Boy, but if you are ever crossing Colorado on I-70 check out the Georgetown Loop. The views and experience are spectacular.