# Have they no shame

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213>\
**Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\
**Created:** [November 21, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213 "2024-11-21T21:05:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gmoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ee59a6/32.png) [@Gmoney](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Gmoney)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/1 "2024-11-21T21:05:59Z")

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On indeed there is an add looking for an inland Chief Engineer , pay says  
$300 a day, that’s about as near to the  
absolute bottom of the barrel as I have  
seen, a shade tree mechanic could do  
one job a day and be home and top that.

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/2 "2024-11-21T21:26:37Z")

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Post the link please. I’d take the job if it was right down the road from my house & only 3 hours a day.

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**Author:** ![Hornblower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecccb3/32.png) [@Hornblower](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hornblower)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/3 "2024-11-21T21:36:42Z")

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Not entirely sure what a shade tree mechanic is but I like the sound of it.  
I guess it’s like a tree surgeon for shade trees?  
Napoleon was a big champion of shade trees, hence the boulevards.

300 scoobies a day; any extras on that?

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**Author:** ![Gmoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ee59a6/32.png) [@Gmoney](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Gmoney)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/4 "2024-11-22T01:31:44Z")

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Can’t find the add & looked multiple times,  
we call a shadetree mechanic one of them  
guys you can usually identify with a chainfall  
around a large tree limb with an engine  
hanging off of it, usually a few beer cans  
scattered around and may or may not be a good mechanic but will take the job anyway  
lol.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/5 "2024-11-22T13:08:02Z")

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> [@Sand\_Pebble](#):
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> only 3 hours a day.

I’m pretty sure he meant a backyard mechanic can make $300 in 3 hours a day not that the job posted was for 3 hours a day.

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**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/6 "2024-11-23T14:09:59Z")

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I pay my shade tree mechanic $35 an hour in cash.

Garage rates these days are about $100 to $200 an hour

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**Author:** ![yacht\_sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed655f/32.png) [@yacht\_sailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/yacht_sailor)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/7 "2024-11-23T16:04:58Z")

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If they pay the CHIEF that, what are they paying everyone else?

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**Author:** ![Gmoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ee59a6/32.png) [@Gmoney](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Gmoney)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/8 "2024-11-23T16:35:57Z")

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[https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=41901fdb0bc568e8&from=sharedmweb](https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=41901fdb0bc568e8&from=sharedmweb)

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/9 "2024-11-23T17:48:49Z")

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Screw that job. I could understand if it was a dinner cruise or a excursion boat that left the dock 2-3 hrs a day, 3-4 days a week but a pushboat, 12 hrs a day working 28 & 14 is nuts. I’ll go back to stripping before I worked chief for 300 a day.

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**Author:** ![Gmoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ee59a6/32.png) [@Gmoney](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Gmoney)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/10 "2024-11-23T21:45:57Z")

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It also mentions in the job description schedule that must be available on your  
time off if called.

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**Author:** ![jimrr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jimrr/32/38358_2.png) [@jimrr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jimrr)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/11 "2024-11-24T20:53:39Z")

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this job just can not be for licensed officers guys.  
any rated eng. looking at this is doing so only for entertainment/curiosity.  
shade tree mech/can mechanic/ etc.

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 10:08am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/12 "2024-11-25T10:08:45Z")

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> [@jimrr](#):
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> this job just can not be for licensed officers guys.

True. My first boat job at 18yrs old was on pushboats on the lower Mississippi. Since I could start an engine without burning up a starter, could read a dipstick & change oil, was mechanically inclined & had some tricks up my sleeve that I learned from a family of impoverished shade tree mechanics, I was quickly promoted to deckineer. It paid 10 bucks more & included everything the normal deckhands did but I was assigned to taking care of the engineroom 30mins at the start & ending of my watch instead of sanitary. This 300 dollar a day job is probably for a deckineer type position?

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**Author:** ![Gmoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ee59a6/32.png) [@Gmoney](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Gmoney)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/13 "2024-11-25T13:50:57Z")

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I did the same, tought & hazardous work to say the least !

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**Author:** ![ChaplainDarrell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/chaplaindarrell/32/41200_2.png) [@ChaplainDarrell](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ChaplainDarrell)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/14 "2024-11-25T14:26:24Z")

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A “shade tree mechanic” is a man who can do car repairs in the shade of a tree. They can nail a 2X4 between two trees and use a hoist to pull an engine. Many of them are excellent mechanics, but making $300 a day, I doubt it.

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**Author:** ![jimrr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jimrr/32/38358_2.png) [@jimrr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jimrr)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/15 "2024-11-25T15:31:13Z")

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gawd, i bet there’s more than me here wishing we could start over, or rather, just be back when … to a degree.

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/16 "2024-11-25T18:24:37Z")

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> [@jimrr](#):
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> just be back when … to a degree.

I know I didn’t have to pay no damn gym membership fee or worry about what I ate or drank for sure. That was the most physically demanding job I ever had while walking 1.5 feet from death, carrying a 50lb ratchet or 35’, 1" wire almost everywhere I went.

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**Author:** ![jimrr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jimrr/32/38358_2.png) [@jimrr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jimrr)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/17 "2024-11-25T18:37:44Z")

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HHAHA, yea, dragging cable … fuk, nowadays I would’t even try to pick it up… hahahaha

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**Author:** ![ocnslr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@ocnslr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ocnslr)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/18 "2024-11-25T19:54:02Z")

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Back in 1990-1992, while I was still on active duty in the USN, I worked part-time as a relief Captain on the “Spirit of XXX” in Norfolk, VA. They wanted you to look like Captain Stubing of the Love Boat, but they paid like Skipper of the S.S. Minnow.

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/19 "2024-11-25T20:27:28Z")

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> [@jimrr](#):
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> dragging cable

On the boxes & rakes I worked on dragging wasn’t an option because they would slide between the barges or grab a cleat & get hung up. If dragging outside they’d fall overboard & could drag you over. We had to hump them on our shoulders. Redflag barges had big open decks but usually had winches. If I was still an inland pushboat deckhand I’d take that deckineer job for 300 a day. Deckhanding sucked, too hard a job.

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**Author:** ![CoastalTrader](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/coastaltrader/32/71776_2.png) [@CoastalTrader](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/CoastalTrader)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/have-they-no-shame/71213/20 "2024-11-25T20:58:03Z")

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It only requires a TWIC.

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