# Future marine fuels **URL:** \ **Category:** Marine Engineering\ **Created:** [March 7, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834 "2019-03-07T11:51:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/41 "2021-01-13T12:52:28Z")
LNG may be the prefered Marine fuel until 2050: > **[LNG as a fuel through to 2050 - Splash247](https://splash247.com/lng-as-a-fuel-through-to-2050/)** > > Peter Keller, SEA-LNG chairman, writes for Splash today 2020 was a year of tough choices for everyone in shipping. But one of the most important – the fuel choice that will get us to the IMO’s 2050 decarbonisation goals – just got a lot simpler.... By hydrogen is the likely winner in the race for the long term: > **[MSC joins the Hydrogen Council - Splash247](https://splash247.com/msc-joins-the-hydrogen-council/)** > > Mediterranean Shipping Company (MSC) has joined fellow shipping lines CMA CGM and Nippon Yusen Kaisha (NYK) on the Hydrogen Council, a global industry body, as a steering member to foster cross-sector collaboration that will accelerate R&D... ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/42 "2021-01-13T14:21:09Z")
> [@ombugge](#): > > the damage would be to the fundamental shipping markets His is strongest argument for nukes I have seen in ages. It’s kind of like the buggy whip manufacturers arguing against horseless carriages. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/43 "2021-01-31T14:04:15Z")
Which of the alternative marine fuels under discussion will be “THE Fuel of the Future”??: [Ship Owners Are Experimenting With New Fuels As the Clock Towards Decarbonization is Ticking | Hellenic Shipping News Worldwide](https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/ship-owners-are-experimenting-with-new-fuels-as-the-clock-towards-decarbonization-is-ticking/#:~:text=Decarbonization%20is%20Ticking-,Ship%20Owners%20Are%20Experimenting%20With%20New%20Fuels,Clock%20Towards%20Decarbonization%20is%20Ticking&text=Due%20to%20current%20limitations%20on,40%25%E2%80%9D%2C%20Kourtesis%20said). ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/44 "2021-02-06T16:34:48Z")
One more vote for Ammonia: > **[Ammonia Changes the Game in the Maritime Sector | Hellenic Shipping News...](https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/ammonia-changes-the-game-in-the-maritime-sector/)** ---
**Author:** ![whizbang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c5a1d2/32.png) [@whizbang](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/whizbang)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/45 "2021-02-06T19:17:20Z")
Anything has to be better than the post 2020 residual fuels that seemingly clog every purifier and filter on every ship within a few hours ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/46 "2021-02-08T13:32:53Z")
Japan is hatching their bet: > **[Japan maps out ammonia ambitions - Splash247](https://splash247.com/japan-maps-out-ammonia-ambitions/)** > > The Japanese government has today mapped out plans to develop significant ammonia fuelling plans for its utility and shipping sectors. Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry today detailed procurement strategies to ensure the country’s power... While the Finns is making a different bet: > **[Finnish firms set out to lead e-fuel race - Splash247](https://splash247.com/finnish-firms-set-out-to-lead-e-fuel-race/)** > > A group of Finnish companies are working on the commercialisation of electrofuel (e-fuel) production using sustainable electricity and sequestered carbon dioxide with ESL Shipping among the partners looking to pioneer new transportation fuel. A new... PS\> That picture doesn’t look like it is in Finland. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/47 "2021-03-18T21:45:24Z")
The Danes want to lead in the race to clean marine fuel: > **[Haldor Topsoe and Aquamarine to build green ammonia facility in Germany -...](https://splash247.com/haldor-topsoe-and-aquamarine-to-build-green-ammonia-facility-in-germany/)** > > Danish clean fuels provider Haldor Topsoe and private equity firm Aquamarine have entered into a memorandum of understanding (MoU) to build a green ammonia facility in northern Germany close to existing offshore wind farms. The facility is planned to... It is all within the EU so they can count on EU grants to help finance the project. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/48 "2021-03-21T13:17:00Z")
Port of Rotterdam Authorities are not sitting on the fence but getting ready for the changes that will come: > **[Another step closer to hydrogen backbone in port of Rotterdam | Hellenic...](https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/another-step-closer-to-hydrogen-backbone-in-port-of-rotterdam/)** ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/49 "2021-03-22T13:29:54Z")
> **[The New Fuels Are Coming, Are You Ready? – gCaptain](https://gcaptain.com/the-new-fuels-are-coming-are-you-ready/)** > > By Thomas Klenum, Senior Vice President, Maritime Operations and Dallas Smith, Vice President LNG & Offshore With the International Maritime Organization (IMO) expected to soon adopt requirements for energy efficiency... Rhetorical question? ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/50 "2021-03-26T13:50:32Z")
The discussion continue, which is best for the environment and most economical fuel of the future?: [https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/which-tanker-fuels-are-best-for-profits-and-the-environment/?\_](https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/which-tanker-fuels-are-best-for-profits-and-the-environment/?_) [https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/embracing-eco-innovations-as-imo-2030-looms-large/](https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/embracing-eco-innovations-as-imo-2030-looms-large/) ---
**Author:** ![Jughead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jughead/32/4257_2.png) [@Jughead](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jughead)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/51 "2021-03-26T14:58:46Z")
Petroleum fuels are excellent. That’s why everyone uses them … and will into the future. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Seadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/67e7ee/32.png) [@Chief\_Seadog](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Chief_Seadog)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/52 "2021-03-27T02:00:24Z")
This is an ever evolving story. Prior to petroleum, whale oil was quite popular. ---
**Author:** ![Jughead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jughead/32/4257_2.png) [@Jughead](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jughead)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 6:20am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/53 "2021-03-27T06:20:38Z")
So was wood and dung … and wind … and slaves … Strangely, all are still prevalent in today’s world and even making a comeback. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/54 "2021-03-29T20:21:36Z")
Even if the ship use hydrogen as main fuel it is still money to be saved by using free wind power when it is available: > **[World’s First Zero-Emission Wind and Hydrogen Power Cargo Ship](https://www.maritime-executive.com/index.php/article/world-s-first-zero-emission-wind-and-hydrogen-power-cargo-ship)** > > A Norwegian partnership is moving forward with the development of what they are calling the worlds f... ---
**Author:** ![Jughead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jughead/32/4257_2.png) [@Jughead](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jughead)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 7:18am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/55 "2021-03-30T07:18:48Z")
There is no such thing as a “zero-emission wind and hydrogen power cargo ship”. Look! Over there! Unicorns! Tell me how it went ten years after full time service please. I’d love to know how they got the materials to build the ship, manufacture, store and transport the hydrogen and feed the crew with zero “emissions”. Hydrogen takes more energy to make it than it returns producing useful work. And wind power is never going to propel cargo ships economically. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 11:54am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/56 "2021-03-30T11:54:40Z")
Why bother to even try, if you cannot reach perfection immediately?? Only in Oz do they manage to begin with perfection. ---
**Author:** ![Jughead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jughead/32/4257_2.png) [@Jughead](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jughead)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/57 "2021-03-30T11:59:35Z")
> [@ombugge](#): > > Why bother to even try To do what exactly? Create more expensive shipping costs? Starve the planet of life-giving CO2? Make Leftists feel just that bit more sanctimonious? Or just destroy western civilisation? > [@ombugge](#): > > Only in Oz do they manage to begin with perfection. We aren’t perfect. I never said we were. My governments are as stupid as yours. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/58 "2021-03-30T12:04:59Z")
> [@Jughead](#): > > We aren’t perfect. Agree. > [@Jughead](#): > > I never said we were. Implied?? > [@Jughead](#): > > My governments are as stupid as yours. Everybody is stupid, with one exception, … ---
**Author:** ![Jughead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jughead/32/4257_2.png) [@Jughead](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jughead)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 12:06pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/59 "2021-03-30T12:06:52Z")
Once again, you evaded the question. > [@Jughead](#): > > To do what exactly? Answer the question and stop the insults. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/60 "2021-03-31T16:22:47Z")
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