# Future marine fuels **URL:** \ **Category:** Marine Engineering\ **Created:** [March 7, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834 "2019-03-07T11:51:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chief\_Seadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/67e7ee/32.png) [@Chief\_Seadog](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Chief_Seadog)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 1:19pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/21 "2020-09-24T13:19:24Z")
I think fuel density plays a dominate factor in the race for alternate fuels. ---
**Author:** ![ATBoffshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/57b2e6/32.png) [@ATBoffshore](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ATBoffshore)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/22 "2020-09-24T14:12:23Z")
If only the wind farms could charge battery powered CTVs and guard vessels. #atboffshore ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/23 "2020-09-24T14:25:59Z")
> [@ATBoffshore](#): > > battery powered CTVs They do exist (or soon will): > **[Danfoss Editron to power Hornsea Two crew transfer vessels](https://www.offshore-mag.com/vessels/article/14177952/danfoss-editron-to-power-hornsea-two-offshore-wind-farm-crew-transfer-vessels)** > > MHO-Co has contracted Danfoss Editron to deliver the drivetrain systems that will power what are said to be the UK’s first two hybrid crew transfer vessels. OK so they do not have plugs on the support structure of individual wind mills. or on the offshore sub-stations, but the CTVs can charge at the base, where the power supply will be from renewable sources. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/24 "2020-10-02T20:22:39Z")
Odfjell is installing fuel cell(s) on on one of their Chemical tankers: > **[Odfjell readies for landmark fuel cell tests - Splash247](https://splash247.com/odfjell-readies-for-landmark-fuel-cell-tests/)** > > A Scandinavian team is developing a 1.2 MW prototype fuel cell that will be mounted onboard one of Odfjell’s newest chemical tankers. The main partners in the project are Odfjell, Prototech, Wärtsilä and Lundin Energy Norway with Norwegian prime... Initially they will be using LNG as fuel source, but that is mainly because Ammonia and Hydrogen is not easily available in the ports they are normally visiting. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/25 "2020-10-07T14:42:36Z")
The endless debate about which fuel is the fuel of the future for ships is going on worldwide: > **[Shipping’s green-tinted glasses - Splash247](https://splash247.com/shippings-green-tinted-glasses/)** > > Another week, another shipping story discussing ships of the future being powered by this or that fuel. Each wave of discussion is making shipping so brightly green, it hurts people’s eyes. The LNG-as-a-fuel circus has moved on to hydrogen and... MSC is backing Hydrogen: > **[MSC backs hydrogen as future fuel - Splash247](https://splash247.com/msc-backs-hydrogen-as-future-fuel/)** > > Mediterranean Shipping Company (MSC), the world’s second largest containerline, has given an indication of its future investments as its pursues its own decarbonisation course with hydrogen to the fore. As well as exploring future hydrogen-powered... While DSME is betting on Ammonia, or at least hedging their bet by developing a 23000 TEU ammonia powered container ship: > **[DSME debuts 23,000 teu ammonia-powered ship design - Splash247](https://splash247.com/dsme-debuts-23000-teu-ammonia-powered-ship-design/)** > > South Korea’s Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) has received approval in principle from UK class society Lloyd’s Register for its 23,000 teu ammonia-fuelled containership design, with the yard planning to start selling the... If anybody comes along and want a similar hydrogen powered ship they would still oblige though. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/26 "2020-10-11T12:58:16Z")
Port of Rotterdam Authority becomes the member of new Future Fuels Network. That has been announced 6 October on the maritime conference in Singapore: [https://en.portnews.ru/news/302844/#:~:text=Port%20of%20Rotterdam%20Authority%20is,company%20said%20in%20its%20release.&text=The%20Future%20Fuels%20Network%20hopes,organisations%20in%20the%20near%20future](https://en.portnews.ru/news/302844/#:~:text=Port%20of%20Rotterdam%20Authority%20is,company%20said%20in%20its%20release.&text=The%20Future%20Fuels%20Network%20hopes,organisations%20in%20the%20near%20future). ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/27 "2020-10-12T15:53:51Z")
Shell is voting for hydrogen as the future marine fuel: > **[Shell backs hydrogen and fuel cells in future fuels debate - Splash247](https://splash247.com/shell-backs-hydrogen-and-fuel-cells-in-future-fuels-debate/)** > > As diverse members of the shipping industry jostle to have their say on future fuels ahead of key talks at the International Maritime Organization (IMO), an energy major has come out in firm support of hydrogen and fuel cells. Shell issued a 25-page... And Toshiba take next step to develop hydrogen powered fuel cells for ships: > **[Toshiba takes next step in maritime fuel cell development - Splash247](https://splash247.com/toshiba-takes-next-step-in-maritime-fuel-cell-development/)** > > One of the world’s most advanced developers of fuel cells, Toshiba, is upping its focus on ships. Toshiba Energy Systems & Solutions Corporation (Toshiba ESS) has signed an agreement with New Energy and Industrial Technology Development... Are you ready for this brave new world?? ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/28 "2020-10-13T21:30:47Z")
Fish waste is already powering ships in Norway, but not specifically from Salmon > **[New future fuel option swims into view: salmon waste - Splash247](https://splash247.com/new-future-fuel-option-swims-into-view-salmon-waste/)** > > To the ever growing list of future fuel options facing shipowners a new, surprise category swims into the mix today: salmon waste. Green Fuels Research, the University of Cardiff and London South Bank University have teamed up to explore converting... I think what power Hurtigruten is Biogas made from fish waste, not Biodiesel though. What is next?? Pig sh\*t maybe?? ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/29 "2020-10-21T13:57:31Z")
Biofuel is all the rage, both for ships and aircrafts: [https://biofuels-news.com/news/eps-works-with-goodfuels-for-marine-biofuel-bunkering-trial/](https://biofuels-news.com/news/eps-works-with-goodfuels-for-marine-biofuel-bunkering-trial/) ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/30 "2020-10-21T14:01:38Z")
MAN B&W is part of a group developing 2-strok engine for ships, using ammonia as fuel: > **[Danes press ahead with development of a two-stroke, ammonia-fuelled engine -...](https://splash247.com/danes-press-ahead-with-development-of-a-two-stroke-ammonia-fuelled-engine/)** > > Innovation Fund Denmark, the Danish investment entity, has announced the establishment of a consortium to develop a two-stroke, ammonia-fuelled engine for shipping. It aims to specify and demonstrate an entire, marine-propulsion system that will pave... PS\> Was it MAN that took over B&W, or the other way around?? ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/31 "2020-10-21T14:01:42Z")
Fish waste. Nothing new there. I used to blend fish oil with bunkers on the good ol’ Ocean Phoenix. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/32 "2020-10-21T14:50:59Z")
> [@Steamer](#): > > Ocean Phoenix. The Ocean Phoenix was converted at a small shipyard (Blaalid Slip & Mek. Verksted) in Norway in 1989 if I remember right. Is she still in operation(??) Found this about her: [http://memorieshop.com/SS-Oregon-Mail/Ocean-Phoenix.html](http://memorieshop.com/SS-Oregon-Mail/Ocean-Phoenix.html) At the end they mention using Fish Oil mixed with MDO to fire the boilers. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Seadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/67e7ee/32.png) [@Chief\_Seadog](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Chief_Seadog)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/33 "2020-10-21T15:58:31Z")
The Ocean Phoenix was retired to Brownsville, TX last year. ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/34 "2020-10-21T16:13:07Z")
> [@ombugge](#): > > At the end they mention using Fish Oil mixed with MDO to fire the boilers. That is incorrect. Because we had limited MDO capacity and needed it for the on deck DGs it was never used in the boilers except for firing up from cold iron at the beginning of a season. Because we could not bunker heavy oil in Alaska, toward the end of a season we were low on HFO and overflowing with fish oil so we blended fish oil with HFO. I blended up to 50 percent at times and it worked quite well. The ship had flume tanks that were converted to fish oil storage. The fish oil was offloaded in Japan with the final load of fish and surimi. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/35 "2020-10-22T20:31:12Z")
One of the missing links to make hydrogen a viable alternative as marine fuel is the supply chain. How to transport large quantities of liquid hydrogen from producer to user? The obvious answer is; by ship, like most other commodities. Hyundai Mipo is a step closer to solving that problem: > **[Hyundai Mipo debuts 20,000 cu m liquefied hydrogen carrier design - Splash247](https://splash247.com/hyundai-mipo-debuts-20000-cu-m-liquefied-hydrogen-carrier-design/)** > > Class society Korean Register has approved Hyundai Mipo Dockyard’s design plans for a 20,000 cu m liquefied hydrogen carrier with the yard now determined to step up commercialisation plans of the new ship type. “The global hydrogen market is... ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/36 "2020-10-24T11:10:11Z")
A RoRo powered by Green Hydrogen is under development by a consortium of 20 European companies and institutions. Financial support from EU has been secured: > **[Hydrogen-fuelled ship project secures EU funding - Splash247](https://splash247.com/hydrogen-fuelled-ship-project-secures-eu-funding/)** > > Norway’s Wilhelmsen has announced that its HyShip project has been granted EUR8m ($9.44m) in funding from the EU’s Research and Innovation programme Horizon 2020. The HyShip project involves 14 European partners collaborating on the design and... ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/37 "2020-10-30T20:37:17Z")
Speaking at a shipping webinar organised by the Norwegian Business Association Singapore yesterday, Andreas Sohmen-Pao, the chairman of BW Group, discussed multiple fuels of the future. He is obviously not a fan of nuclear powered ship in the future. Here is why: > **[Why nuclear power would be catastrophic for the shipping industry - Splash247](https://splash247.com/why-nuclear-power-would-be-catastrophic-for-the-shipping-industry/)** > > Nuclear power being used to propel ships could be catastrophic, according to one of the most famous names in shipping, but the damage would be to the fundamental shipping markets rather than the usual environmental concerns about using atomic energy.... ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/38 "2020-11-02T16:24:35Z")
While some are proposing nuclear others are rooting for Methanol: > **[Methanol up for discussion at IMO this week - Splash247](https://splash247.com/methanol-up-for-discussion-at-imo-this-week/)** > > The Methanol Institute is calling on delegates to the International Maritime Organization’s upcoming Maritime Safety Committee meeting which starts on Wednesday to approve amendments to the International Code of Safety for Ships using Gases or other... ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/39 "2020-11-26T12:54:17Z")
More on the new interest in nuclear power for ships: > **[Nuclear and the fourth industrial energy revolution at sea - Splash247](https://splash247.com/nuclear-and-the-fourth-industrial-energy-revolution-at-sea/)** > > Ultra-modern nuclear technology for transport and industry – the clock is ticking on what really matters, argues Mikal Bøe from CORE-POWER. Ultra-modern nuclear technology, like the marine molten salt reactor, is the only viable energy source which... ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834/40 "2020-11-26T12:57:43Z")
While the Japanese ploughs ahead with development of hydrogen as the future fuel for ships: > **[Japanese entities join forces on hydrogen marine fuel development - Splash247](https://splash247.com/japanese-entities-join-force-on-hydrogen-marine-fuel-development/)** > > A group of Japanese companies and institutions have teamed up for the research and development of hydrogen fuel for commercial shipping as part of the country’s effort to become carbon neutral by 2050. Utility Kansai Electric Power, energy firm... [Previous page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/future-marine-fuels/50834.md?page=3)