# First class pilot? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maritime Training & Licensing\ **Created:** [July 18, 2012, 11:13am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956 "2012-07-18T11:13:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pot\_licker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5e925/32.png) [@Pot\_licker](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Pot_licker)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 11:13am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956/1 "2012-07-18T11:13:11Z")
Can I get a first class pilot endorsement added to my license ? I hold a 1600 ton nc and a OUTV, the uscg web site,deck & engineering guide says one-thing but the cfr says another cfr 46 11.701 (d) A license or MMC endorsement issued for service as a master, mate, or operator of uninspected towing vessels authorizes service as a pilot under the provisions of §15.812 of this subchapter. Therefore, first-class pilot endorsements will not be issued with tonnage limitations of 1,600 gross tons or less. ---
**Author:** ![Xmsccapt\_ret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b77776/32.png) [@Xmsccapt\_ret](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Xmsccapt_ret)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 7:29am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956/2 "2012-07-19T07:29:16Z")
> [@"Pot licker"](#): > > Can I get a first class pilot endorsement added to my license ? I hold a 1600 ton nc and a OUTV, the uscg web site,deck & engineering guide says one-thing but the cfr says another cfr 46 11.701 (d) A license or MMC endorsement issued for service as a master, mate, or operator of uninspected towing vessels authorizes service as a pilot under the provisions of §15.812 of this subchapter. Therefore, first-class pilot endorsements will not be issued with tonnage limitations of 1,600 gross tons or less. There are plenty of pilots around the US that don’t have a big ticket. I’d go to the USCG, make the application and see where it goes. ---
**Author:** ![PR-9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@PR-9](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/PR-9)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 9:37am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956/3 "2012-07-19T09:37:18Z")
Yes you can get a First class pilot with a 1600 tons!! How do you hold an OUTV? I thought the USCG dealt away with that when they came up with The Master of towing license! ---
**Author:** ![Pot\_licker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5e925/32.png) [@Pot\_licker](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Pot_licker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:35am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956/4 "2012-07-19T11:35:06Z")
> [@"PR-9"](#): > > Yes you can get a First class pilot with a 1600 tons!! > > How do you hold an OUTV? I thought the USCG dealt away with that when they came up with The Master of towing license! I do have the master of towing vessel upon ncw , not the OUTV , sorry just forgot they changed the name , anyway I was told that your time must be on vessels over 200 tons to get the first class pilot or you would get the limited tonnage pilot , the vessel I’m on is only 189 tons so it would not be enough . Not much info on the limited tonnage pilot endorsement, that I can find . ---
**Author:** ![PR-9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@PR-9](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/PR-9)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956/5 "2012-07-19T11:56:42Z")
> [@"Pot licker"](#): > > I do have the master of towing vessel upon ncw , not the OUTV , sorry just forgot they changed the name , anyway I was told that your time must be on vessels over 200 tons to get the first class pilot or you would get the limited tonnage pilot , the vessel I’m on is only 189 tons so it would not be enough . Not much info on the limited tonnage pilot endorsement, that I can find . For what harbor are you trying to get the First class for? Most of them (or at least the one I know) will required at least three trips on an vessel over 200 GRT. But if you test (draw) for the limited one as soon as you get you trips on a vessel over 200 they will upgraded it to a first class. ---
**Author:** ![Pot\_licker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5e925/32.png) [@Pot\_licker](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Pot_licker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956/6 "2012-07-19T12:25:05Z")
> [@"PR-9"](#): > > For what harbor are you trying to get the First class for? Most of them (or at least the one I know) will required at least three trips on an vessel over 200 GRT. But if you test (draw) for the limited one as soon as you get you trips on a vessel over 200 they will upgraded it to a first class. From where did you find this info pr-9? TX ---
**Author:** ![Xmsccapt\_ret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b77776/32.png) [@Xmsccapt\_ret](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Xmsccapt_ret)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956/7 "2012-07-19T12:26:50Z")
> [@"Pot licker"](#): > > Can I get a first class pilot endorsement added to my license ? I hold a 1600 ton nc and a OUTV, the uscg web site,deck & engineering guide says one-thing but the cfr says another cfr 46 11.701 (d) A license or MMC endorsement issued for service as a master, mate, or operator of uninspected towing vessels authorizes service as a pilot under the provisions of §15.812 of this subchapter. Therefore, first-class pilot endorsements will not be issued with tonnage limitations of 1,600 gross tons or less. What exactly are you trying to do? Do you actually need a pilot endorsement for your job? Do you want a first class pilot with the hopes of gaining a position as pilot? ---
**Author:** ![Pot\_licker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5e925/32.png) [@Pot\_licker](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Pot_licker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956/8 "2012-07-19T13:34:53Z")
Actually I would just like to have it, and I think it would look good on a resume too. ---
**Author:** ![Xmsccapt\_ret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b77776/32.png) [@Xmsccapt\_ret](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Xmsccapt_ret)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/first-class-pilot/7956/9 "2012-07-19T14:11:30Z")
> [@"Pot licker"](#): > > Actually I would just like to have it, and I think it would look good on a resume too. Got it. It wold indeed look good on resume. Good luck.