# Ferry Allision is SF **URL:** \ **Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\ **Created:** [November 24, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805 "2018-11-24T13:19:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NorCal\_Mariner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b4bc9f/32.png) [@NorCal\_Mariner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/NorCal_Mariner)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/1 "2018-11-24T13:19:53Z")
Minor injuries…USCG investigating. ---
**Author:** ![Hartley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/hartley/32/7603_2.png) [@Hartley](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hartley)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/2 "2018-11-25T13:01:02Z")
Hmm… at least one prop is still turning in forward after it strikes the pier - and no horn signals. It could be a mechanical/electronic engine control problem, or perhaps a lone captain suffered some sort of heath issue? ---
**Author:** ![Klaveness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/klaveness/32/7001_2.png) [@Klaveness](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Klaveness)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/3 "2018-11-25T13:02:32Z")
My thoughts exactly. Remember the Long Island ferry? ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/4 "2018-11-25T13:54:40Z")
Adventure Hornblower in San Diego, 2016. mechanical issue. ---
**Author:** ![DamnYankee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/damnyankee/32/514_2.png) [@DamnYankee](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DamnYankee)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/5 "2018-11-25T14:32:18Z")
> [@Klaveness](#): > > Remember the Long Island ferry? I remember the Staten Island Ferry disaster. Is that what you’re referring to? As an aside. You would probably get your nose flattened if you ever told a Staten Island resident they live on Long Island. Ha 🤗 ---
**Author:** ![Klaveness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/klaveness/32/7001_2.png) [@Klaveness](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Klaveness)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/6 "2018-11-25T15:41:51Z")
That’d be the one. Excuse me, it’s been a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Tugboater203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/tugboater203/32/14108_2.png) [@Tugboater203](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tugboater203)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/7 "2018-11-25T16:18:59Z")
Every year when I take my physical I’m reminded about the ferry incident. ---
**Author:** ![johnny.dollar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@johnny.dollar](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/johnny.dollar)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/8 "2018-11-26T02:56:14Z")
> [@Kennebec\_Captain](#): > > Adventure Hornblower in San Diego, 2016 [https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/MAB1729.aspx](https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/MAB1729.aspx) > Probable Cause > > ​The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of the allision of the _Adventure Hornblower_ with the Navy Pier and the downtown San Diego seawall was a failure of the port transmission to disengage from the forward propulsion position due to the operating company’s lack of adherence to the transmission manufacturer’s recommended periodic maintenance schedule and the lack of routine maintenance and upkeep of the propulsion system’s equipment. Contributing to the accident was the lack of instrumentation to provide positive indication of thrust direction or an alarm to indicate the propulsion control system was not responding properly to the captain’s commands. I never understood why mates always haul ass when approaching the pier, then slam in reverse. They could just ease off the go-juice further out and drift in. Perhaps they are just ignorant to the fact that it is possible that the brakes won’t work when they slam it in reverse? Maybe they need to spend a bit more time with the engineers----then they wouldn’t have such blind faith in their equipment! ---
**Author:** ![Klaveness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/klaveness/32/7001_2.png) [@Klaveness](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Klaveness)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 10:30am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/9 "2018-11-26T10:30:14Z")
> [@Kennebec\_Captain](#): > > Adventure Hornblower in San Diego, 2016. mechanical issue. I’ll see your Adventure Hornblower and raise you one Bright Field. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/10 "2018-11-26T12:13:52Z")
Sure it wasn’t this one?: > **[Larkspur ferry slams into dock at Ferry Building but no injuries reported](https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Larkspur-ferry-slams-into-dock-at-Ferry-Building-13417559.php)** > > A Larkspur ferry crashed into the dock at San Francisco’s Ferry Building Friday afternoon, causing frightened onlookers to run and scream while craning their cell phones to take video, but leaving the passengers and crew unscathed. Fifty-three... ---
**Author:** ![NorCal\_Mariner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b4bc9f/32.png) [@NorCal\_Mariner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/NorCal_Mariner)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/11 "2018-11-26T12:47:18Z")
Yes…that’s the story. MS San Francisco sailing from Larkspur to SF. ---
**Author:** ![Klaveness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/klaveness/32/7001_2.png) [@Klaveness](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Klaveness)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/12 "2018-11-26T13:33:58Z")
I thought we were just referencing maintenance related maneuver fails. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the Bright Field, anyway 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/13 "2018-11-26T13:38:59Z")
The average age in the wheelhouse of the Staten Island ferry is likely higher then on these small passengers ferries. Makes mechanical rather than medical more likely. ---
**Author:** ![seasmaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/seasmaster/32/3160_2.png) [@seasmaster](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/seasmaster)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ferry-allision-is-sf/49805/14 "2018-11-26T20:35:25Z")
The vision I always had in my brain, as the vessel I was conning was approaching the pier, was that of John Kennedy in the movie PT-109, as he was racing to get to the fuel dock first. The boat couldn’t “grab” the backing bell, and collided [allided] with the dock. Too bad not enough others have seen the movie!!