# Ever Forward Versus Ever Given Grounding & Salvage **URL:** \ **Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\ **Created:** [March 16, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609 "2022-03-16T19:56:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Salvatore\_Mercoglian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/salvatore_mercoglian/32/6283_2.png) [@Salvatore\_Mercoglian](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Salvatore_Mercoglian)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609/1 "2022-03-16T19:56:51Z")
Interested in your comments on the cause of Ever Forward grounding and potential salvage plans. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/8/8/88cdc7125df971a373ac644ad6c906ce4a1e318a.jpeg "Ever Forward Versus Ever Given Grounding & Salvage | What's Going on With Shipping?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18XmzVs-rco) ---
**Author:** ![Jurgen54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jurgen54/32/27113_2.png) [@Jurgen54](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jurgen54)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 5:01am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609/3 "2022-03-20T05:01:26Z")
Do not agree… Insurance scum? Looking at the 2021H3-Consolidated\_Financial\_Report.pdf (latest available) or after: > **[Evergreen splashes out on 24,000TEU ships and more containers - Container News](https://container-news.com/evergreen-splashes-out-on-24000teu-ships-and-more-containers/)** > > Evergreen Marine Corporation has extended its spree on newbuildings and containers, as its profit continues to climb amid firming freight rates. Not plausible. Or the start of the Ist great Container War? ---
**Author:** ![Ausmariner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Ausmariner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ausmariner)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 5:53am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609/4 "2022-03-20T05:53:46Z")
> [@Salvatore\_Mercoglian](#): > > Interested in your comments on the cause of Ever Forward grounding and potential salvage plans. > > [https://youtu.be/18XmzVs-rco](https://youtu.be/18XmzVs-rco) Very strong chance that it was caused by human factors which will be revealed via the VDR. The one redeeming fact here is that there should be a rigorous and detailed inquiry as opposed to the farcical effort covering the “Ever Given” incident where we learnt very little……if anything. Potential salvage plans……a shyte load of dredging and lightening. ---
**Author:** ![Ausmariner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Ausmariner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ausmariner)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 7:24am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609/6 "2022-03-20T07:24:54Z")
In a perfect world, the speed profile at each waypoint should be agreed to by both parties via the Master/Pilot exchange prior to the commencement of the Pilotage. ---
**Author:** ![Jurgen54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jurgen54/32/27113_2.png) [@Jurgen54](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jurgen54)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609/8 "2022-03-20T21:10:55Z")
(scratching head…) My reply was to \>Heiwa ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/0/6/062fda5f137819395cf595818860b439b2cfae65.png) But he disappeared… ---
**Author:** ![Ausmariner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Ausmariner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ausmariner)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609/9 "2022-03-20T22:50:14Z")
Methinks another ban. His last post was nothing short of ridiculous and totally irrelevant. I am annoyed at myself for responding to his previous. I should know better. ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609/10 "2022-03-20T23:04:43Z")
> [@Jurgen54](#): > > But he disappeared… We should be so lucky. 😞 ---
**Author:** ![NavyDoug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/34f0e0/32.png) [@NavyDoug](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/NavyDoug)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609/11 "2022-03-21T16:32:43Z")
I’ll be looking at whether this confirms the outcome of the COSCO Busan incident. Before that incident, it was taken as gospel that the pilot is an advisor but the captain is responsible. I haven’t seen who contracted the salvage services by the way. Was it Evergreen, a P&I club or some government entity? ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 9:54am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/ever-forward-versus-ever-given-grounding-salvage/62609/12 "2022-03-23T09:54:08Z")
It is one year since Ever Given grounded in the Suez Canal\_ > **[The Ever Given grounding one year on - Splash247](https://splash247.com/the-ever-given-grounding-one-year-on/)** > > On this day one year ago, a giant vessel approached the Suez Canal in windswept conditions, sand whipping up across the banks of the 193 km strip of water connecting Asia with Europe. The infamous would end up aground, straddling the waterway and for...