# EMD engines

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353>\
**Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\
**Created:** [December 11, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353 "2024-12-11T01:50:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![EMDNewbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@EMDNewbie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/EMDNewbie)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/1 "2024-12-11T01:50:38Z")

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So what’s the story with EMD engines these days ? Are they still being used in trains and boats ? Have they been banned because of emissions ?

Where might one find a couple used 16 or 20 cylinder 645 or 710s ?

What does it cost to rebuild one ? How much is a power assembly ?

Who are the reputable parts suppliers in the US ?

TIA

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**Author:** ![Steaksauce](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/steaksauce/32/56519_2.png) [@Steaksauce](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steaksauce)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/2 "2024-12-11T13:27:41Z")

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Holy moly, well, to start CAT makes new EMD engines and they got the parts.

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**Author:** ![Sand\_Pebble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sand\_Pebble](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Sand_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/3 "2024-12-11T13:46:02Z")

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I attended the school linked below in 2010. At that time the factory was connected to the training facility & we could go into the factory to see new 710’s being built & core heads being refurbished to be resold. Some of my classmates were foriegners from Saudi Arabia & Brizil & their companies had just bought scores of new EMD’s for drilling rig generators. Caterpillar had just bought EMD then but the school/factory was still being ran as EMD. I think that changed in 2018 & the buildings are all Caterpillar’ed up now.

Call that old EMD facility or find one of the many EMD forums ran by EMD/Train enthusiasts for more info.

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**Author:** ![EMDNewbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@EMDNewbie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/EMDNewbie)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/4 "2024-12-11T17:18:16Z")

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I dislike dealing with Caterpillar. Who else is reputable ?

Where is a good place to buy a used engine or core for a rebuild ? I don’t see a lot listed online.

How much is a new power assembly for a 710 these days ?

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**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/5 "2024-12-11T17:55:15Z")

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Google is your friend. Tons of links, basic research is easy and much faster than begging.

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**Author:** ![Old\_school](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/old_school/32/45841_2.png) [@Old\_school](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Old_school)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/6 "2024-12-12T14:12:46Z")

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I can locate surplus EMD engines for you but when you say “power assembly” do you mean a genend? If so, are you seeking AC or DC and what voltage output? Lastly, are these to be for marine, rail or stationary use?

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**Author:** ![\_A465B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/e8c25b/32.png) [@\_A465B](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/_A465B)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/7 "2024-12-12T20:03:47Z")

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Conn rod  
Piston  
Cylinder liner  
Cylinder head

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**Author:** ![jimrr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jimrr/32/38358_2.png) [@jimrr](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jimrr)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/8 "2024-12-13T16:59:54Z")

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I think he probably means a power pack, we always had a couple in boxes aboard along with the torque multiplier, a few gaskets etc. to replace a pack.

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**Author:** ![\_A465B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/e8c25b/32.png) [@\_A465B](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/_A465B)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 10:39am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/9 "2024-12-14T10:39:12Z")

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Yup.

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**Author:** ![BargeMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5a626/32.png) [@BargeMonkey](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BargeMonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/emd-engines/71353/11 "2024-12-16T08:45:56Z")

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You can buy a Tier 4 Emd, I think the last Bouchard boat was Tier 4 Def. Still a fair amount of them around but not like there was, 567B-C boats arent even common anymore. MSI is where they order stuff here, send stuff back to be re-manned. They just sold a boat here with a set of 16E2s and Falk boxes in running shape for not huge money just dont poke the rust holes to hard. It was 10k+ a hole 10yrs ago, last turbo I did in 2017 ? Was 100k+ hot shot from Lagrange, I cant imagine now but its not cheap.
