# Edison Chouest Offshore in Alaska **URL:** \ **Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\ **Created:** [February 24, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310 "2017-02-24T18:28:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tugs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/tugs/32/158_2.png) [@Tugs](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tugs)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/1 "2017-02-24T18:28:27Z")
Now granted this is coming from Robert Allen but it sure sounds like he pointed out some interesting things about ECO’s new tug designs. > **[New oil escort tugs get poor review at citizens’ council](http://www.alaskajournal.com/2017-01-25/new-oil-escort-tugs-get-poor-review-citizens%E2%80%99-council#.WK-5hRBvVJ8)** > > A vessel design firm hired by a Prince William Sound environmental watchdog group is very skeptical of the capability of tugs being built to escort oil tankers out of Valdez. Marine engineer Robert Allan told members of the Prince William Sound... Besides the general layout, I really have to wonder if these boats will be set up for the cold temps that they will be operating in never mind crew comfort. The Foredeck for one thing as it sounds like it will be a swimming pool once the freeing ports get clogged with ice, which anyone that has worked in the North know can and will happen. Too bad a certain member got himself banned as I’m sure he would have some colorful responses to this article. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/2 "2017-02-24T19:41:50Z")
[QUOTE=Tugs;195538]Now granted this is coming from Robert Allen but it sure sounds like he pointed out some interesting things about ECO’s new tug designs. > **[New oil escort tugs get poor review at citizens’ council](http://www.alaskajournal.com/2017-01-25/new-oil-escort-tugs-get-poor-review-citizens%E2%80%99-council#.WK-5hRBvVJ8)** > > A vessel design firm hired by a Prince William Sound environmental watchdog group is very skeptical of the capability of tugs being built to escort oil tankers out of Valdez. Marine engineer Robert Allan told members of the Prince William Sound... Besides the general layout, I really have to wonder if these boats will be set up for the cold temps that they will be operating in never mind crew comfort. The Foredeck for one thing as it sounds like it will be a swimming pool once the freeing ports get clogged with ice, which anyone that has worked in the North know can and will happen. Too bad a certain member got himself banned as I’m sure he would have some colorful responses to this article.[/QUOTE] Let’s hope that ECO has not just bought a standard Damen design without modifications to suite the proposed work in Alaska. Hopefully they have also consulted Mariners with experience from such work, not just engineers. BTW; The tugs built to do similar work at Melkoya in Northern Norway was designed by Robert Allen: [http://www.lngworldshipping.com/news/view,designing-lngfuelled-escort-tug-hullforms\_44807.htm](http://www.lngworldshipping.com/news/view,designing-lngfuelled-escort-tug-hullforms_44807.htm) ---
**Author:** ![rshrew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/rshrew/32/107_2.png) [@rshrew](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/rshrew)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 6:15am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/3 "2017-02-25T06:15:16Z")
Someone is a wee bit jealous. I’m sure the tugs will be just fine for what they have to do up there. ---
**Author:** ![Popeye76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/popeye76/32/8944_2.png) [@Popeye76](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Popeye76)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 6:27am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/4 "2017-02-25T06:27:41Z")
The presenter of this report even acknowledges that he did not have all the specs of the new vessels and that some issues are just differences of (professional) opinion. I am sure the Damen designs are up to the job. ---
**Author:** ![tradsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@tradsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tradsailor)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 10:34am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/5 "2017-02-25T10:34:07Z")
Everybody knows this design won’t work, not because of the size of the fenders, but because it’s not a Titan class derivative. ---
**Author:** ![Jeaux\_Bawss](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jeaux_bawss/32/95_2.png) [@Jeaux\_Bawss](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jeaux_Bawss)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 11:23am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/6 "2017-02-25T11:23:01Z")
You people needn’t worry yourselves Ive got this under control. My new Alaskan venture will be a smashing success even better than the last outing. ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/7 "2017-02-26T15:47:53Z")
> [@"Jeaux Bawss"](#): > > You people needn’t worry yourselves Ive got this under control. My new Alaskan venture will be a smashing success even better than the last outing. Of course we realize that you are only an impersonator, but you’re really good. Have you considered trying out for Saturday Night Live? Your remarks are probably a very good imitation of ECO’s know-it-all cavalier attitude. That’s what scares us so much. ---
**Author:** ![Slick\_Cam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Slick\_Cam](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Slick_Cam)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/8 "2017-02-26T16:35:08Z")
> [@"tugsailor"](#): > > Of course we realize that you are only an impersonator, but you’re really good. Have you considered trying out for Saturday Night Live? Your remarks are probably a very good imitation of ECO’s know-it-all cavalier attitude. That’s what scares us so much. Ain’t he great? We laugh, but if he keeps it up he may just land himself a seat on the Board of Trustees… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Galt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@John\_Galt](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/John_Galt)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/9 "2017-02-26T17:00:18Z")
[QUOTE=tugsailor;195568]Of course we realize that you are only an impersonator, but you’re really good. Have you considered trying out for Saturday Night Live? Your remarks are probably a very good imitation of ECO’s know-it-all cavalier attitude. That’s what scares us so much.[/QUOTE] Have you worked for them? I know several higher up people there and none of them have that type of attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Deftsound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/deftsound/32/555_2.png) [@Deftsound](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Deftsound)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 9:12am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/10 "2017-02-27T09:12:08Z")
I would LOVE an opportunity to work in Alaska… ---
**Author:** ![twackineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/twackineer/32/199_2.png) [@twackineer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/twackineer)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/11 "2017-02-27T18:13:50Z")
What’s the big deal? ECO has designed tugs for use in Alaskan waters before and it went fine… ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/12 "2017-02-27T19:26:15Z")
[QUOTE=twackineer;195604]What’s the big deal? ECO has designed tugs for use in Alaskan waters before and it went fine…[/QUOTE] ECO is NOT designing these tugs, DAMEN is!!! ---
**Author:** ![twackineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/twackineer/32/199_2.png) [@twackineer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/twackineer)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/13 "2017-02-27T22:31:44Z")
[QUOTE=ombugge;195607]ECO is NOT designing these tugs, DAMAN is!!![/QUOTE] Touche, thanks for the correction. However ECO’s history in Alaska speaks for itself and their winning of that contract should be investigated IMHO. Probably some bribery involved. Sooo… commissioned by Chouest, designed by Damen(with the input from the ECO crew who are highly experienced in alaskan waters and Valdez?), built at Chouest’s yards, and operated by Chouest. I’m sure everything will be fine. ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/14 "2017-02-28T15:55:56Z")
> [@"John Galt"](#): > > Have you worked for them? I know several higher up people there and none of them have that type of attitude. After ECO’s highly experienced rig towing experts took the wrong route, at the wrong time of year, into well forecast severe weather, taut-lined the far too short tow wire for hours ignoring alarms and overpressure indications, surprise surprise, they parted the tow wire leading to Aiviq losing propulsion and Kulluk ended up on the rocks— a total loss of the only well proven Arctic drilling rig. This resulted in regulatory push back that killed Arctic drilling for at least another generation. Two years later, in spite of a damning USCG investigation report, ECO higher ups nonetheless insisted in the press that ECO had done nothing wrong. They are not just inexperienced in Alaska, unskilled, and without basic knowledge of towing. They are big fat liars. The last people we need back in Alaska. ---
**Author:** ![Slick\_Cam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Slick\_Cam](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Slick_Cam)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/15 "2017-02-28T17:57:16Z")
> [@"tugsailor"](#): > > After ECO’s highly experienced rig towing experts took the wrong route, at the wrong time of year, into well forecast severe weather, taut-lined the far too short tow wire for hours ignoring alarms and overpressure indications, surprise surprise, they parted the tow wire leading to Aiviq losing propulsion and Kulluk ended up on the rocks— a total loss of the only well proven Arctic drilling rig. This resulted in regulatory push back that killed Arctic drilling for at least another generation. Two years later, in spite of a damning USCG investigation report, ECO higher ups nonetheless insisted in the press that ECO had done nothing wrong. They are not just inexperienced in Alaska, unskilled, and without basic knowledge of towing. They are big fat liars. The last people we need back in Alaska. LOL the management is very conscientious, for sure! Sad, very sad. ---
**Author:** ![Jeaux\_Bawss](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jeaux_bawss/32/95_2.png) [@Jeaux\_Bawss](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jeaux_Bawss)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/16 "2017-02-28T18:18:03Z")
The failing gcaptain forums peanut gallery knowingly doesn’t tell the truth. They are still reeling from my stunning victory for the escort contract. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![Jeaux\_Bawss](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jeaux_bawss/32/95_2.png) [@Jeaux\_Bawss](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jeaux_Bawss)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/17 "2017-02-28T18:19:17Z")
> [@"tugsailor"](#): > > After ECO’s highly experienced rig towing experts took the wrong route, at the wrong time of year, into well forecast severe weather, taut-lined the far too short tow wire for hours ignoring alarms and overpressure indications, surprise surprise, they parted the tow wire leading to Aiviq losing propulsion and Kulluk ended up on the rocks— a total loss of the only well proven Arctic drilling rig. This resulted in regulatory push back that killed Arctic drilling for at least another generation. Two years later, in spite of a damning USCG investigation report, ECO higher ups nonetheless insisted in the press that ECO had done nothing wrong. They are not just inexperienced in Alaska, unskilled, and without basic knowledge of towing. They are big fat liars. The last people we need back in Alaska. #alternativefacts #fakenews ---
**Author:** ![c.captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/c.captain/32/807_2.png) [@c.captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/c.captain)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/18 "2017-02-28T19:00:22Z")
[QUOTE=Jeaux Bawss;195656]The failing gcaptain forums peanut gallery knowingly doesn’t tell the truth. They are still reeling from my stunning victory for the escort contract. Sad![/QUOTE] as well as reeling from the superb and highly professional job you did TO Shell! Nobody is better at ANYTHING maritime than ECO…just ask them! if only you were really Mister Gary… ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/19 "2017-02-28T19:04:49Z")
> [@"c.captain"](#): > > as well as reeling from the superb and highly professional job you did TO Shell! Nobody is better at ANYTHING maritime than ECO…just ask them! if only you were really Mister Gary… Nobody is better than ECO at stuffing money into so-called Representative Don Young’s pocket. ---
**Author:** ![Gimli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c2a13f/32.png) [@Gimli](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Gimli)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 9:45am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310/20 "2017-03-01T09:45:36Z")
Don’t forget that ECO likes to keep Old Murkowski’s pockets filled, too. Just another example of the fine “representation” the average citizen gets. [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/edison-chouest-offshore-in-alaska/43310.md?page=2)