# DP Requirements

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**Category:** Dynamic Positioning
**Created:** [September 23, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dp-requirements/8547 "2012-09-23T03:15:03Z")
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### Author: ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dp-requirements/8547/1 "2012-09-23T03:15:03Z")

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Unfortunately, I could not copy the flow chart that goes with this text:

THE NAUTICAL INSTITUTE DYNAMIC POSITIONING OPERATOR’S CERTIFICATE  
Version 2.1 July/2012 1  
THE NAUTICAL INSTITUTE  
DYNAMIC POSITIONING OPERATOR’S  
CERTIFICATE  
July 2012 revision  
THE NAUTICAL INSTITUTE  
202 Lambeth Road  
London ‐ SE1 7LQ  
United Kingdom  
Tel: +44 (0)20 7928 1351  
Fax: +44 (0)20 7402 2817  
[www.nautinst.org](http://www.nautinst.org)  
[dp@nautinst.org](mailto:dp@nautinst.org)  
THE NAUTICAL INSTITUTE DYNAMIC POSITIONING OPERATOR’S CERTIFICATE  
Version 2.1 July/2012 2  
INTRODUCTION  
The Nautical Institute DP training scheme is the Industry recognised, learning route  
to becoming a qualified Dynamic Positioning Operator (DPO).  
The Nautical Institute has managed the scheme since its inception in the mid 1980’s  
and in conjunction with industry has developed the certification criteria. It  
administers the certification of DPO’s together with the accreditation of the training  
providers.  
The institute does not provide DP training, a list of accredited DP training providers  
can be found on the Institute’s website  
[http://www.nautinst.org/en/dynamic‐positioning/dp‐centres.cfm](http://www.nautinst.org/en/dynamic%E2%80%90positioning/dp%E2%80%90centres.cfm)  
The Nautical Institute Dynamic Positioning Operator (DPO) training scheme is based  
upon the completion of a number of components. Furthermore it is based upon the  
participation of many parties, namely the prospective DPO, the vessel  
owner/operator, the Master and DPO of DP (Dynamic Positioning) vessels and the  
training centres.  
This document is designed to give guidance to these parties in the requirements and  
operation of the scheme.  
MINIMUM ENTRY QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS ONTO THE DP  
SCHEME ‐ from 1st January 2012  
Following the Manila STCW amendments 2010, The Nautical Institute has  
implemented the following criteria for entry onto the DP Operators Training Scheme:  
 The Minimum qualification will be set at STCW Regulation II/1 ‐ II/2 ‐ II/3 Deck  
and Regulation III/1 – III /2 – III/3 Engine  
STCW DEFINITION  
II/1 Deck Officers in charge of a navigational watch on ships of 500 GRT or more.  
II/2 Deck Master and chief mate on ships of 3,000 GRT or more.  
II/3 Deck Officers in charge of a navigational watch and of masters on ships of less than  
500 GRT.  
III/1 Engine Officers in charge of an engineering watch in a manned engine‐room or  
designated duty engineers in a periodically unmanned engine‐room.  
III/2 Engine Chief engineer officers and 2nd engineer officers on ships powered by main  
propulsion machinery of 3,000kW propulsion power or more.  
III/3 Engine Chief engineer officers and 2nd engineer officers on ships powered by main  
propulsion machinery of between 750kW and 3,000 kW propulsion power.  
THE NAUTICAL INSTITUTE DYNAMIC POSITIONING OPERATOR’S CERTIFICATE  
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Alternative appropriate marine vocational qualifications will be considered on a  
case by case basis.  
 Prospective DPO’s, who are in the process of training for an STCW certificate  
can start the DP scheme and complete the Induction (Basic) course and 30 days  
Familiarisation only. The Simulator (Advanced) course and watchkeeping  
training can only be completed after they hold an appropriate STCW certificate  
of competency.  
Prospective DPO’s, not meeting the above requirements  
will be able to apply for certification, if they commenced  
training prior to the implementation date and all  
elements have been completed within a 5 year period at  
the time of application.  
Following implementation of the above all existing DPO  
certification will be honored and will remain valid.  
Marine Vocational  
qualification: is a  
non-STCW Certificate  
of Competency issued  
by a white list Maritime  
Administration for use  
in the administration’s  
local waters only.  
THE NAUTICAL INSTITUTE DYNAMIC POSITIONING OPERATOR’S CERTIFICATE  
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THE TRAINING SCHEME  
The components of the scheme are set out in the following flowchart:  
DP Basic / Induction course  
A minimum of 30 days DP  
Familiarisation experience and  
completion of logbook tasks  
DP Simulator Course  
A minimum of 180 days  
DP watchkeeping  
experience on class 2/3  
vessels  
A minimum of 180 days supervised  
DP watchkeeping experience on a  
combination of class 1,2 & 3 DP  
vessels. This must include at least 60  
days on Class 2/3 vessels. Any Class  
1 time used in this instance will  
count as 0.5 time  
A minimum of 180  
days DP  
watchkeeping  
experience on  
class 1 vessels  
Statement of suitability by  
Statement of suitability by Master of last DP vessel  
Master of last DP vessel  
DP Certificate issued  
Endorsed “Limited”  
DP certificate issued  
UPGRADE  
A minimum of 60 days DP  
watchkeeping on class 2/3  
vessels  
Upgrade statement of  
suitability by Master  
of last DP class 2 / 3  
vessel  
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COURSES  
There are two shore‐based courses within the training scheme, the Induction or  
Basic course and the Simulator (Advanced) course. Both these courses are between 4  
and 5 days in duration and should contain a minimum of 24 hours tuition. The list of  
training centres approved for the delivery of these courses may be found on the  
Institute’s website.  
The Induction/Basic course involves both theory and practice on a simulated DP  
system and covers the following topics: ‐

1. Principles of DP
2. Elements of the DP system
3. Practical operation of the DP system
4. Position reference systems
5. Environment sensors and ancillary equipment
6. Power generation and supply and propulsion
7. DP operations  
The Simulator (Advanced) course involves principally simulated DP operations  
including errors, faults and failures giving the participants the opportunity to apply  
the lessons learnt in both the Induction/Basic course and the seagoing DP  
familiarisation. It covers the following topics: ‐
8. Practical operation of the DP system
9. DP operations
10. DP alarms, warnings and emergency procedures  
Ideally, the courses should be undertaken as set out in the scheme. The sea time  
recorded before the Induction/Basic course will be only accepted up to a maximum  
of 30 days, from 1st January 2012. These 30 days allow employers to continue the  
practice of evaluating prospective DPO’s prior to attending an Induction course.  
Any application received before 1st January 2012 at The Nautical Institute  
headquarters will be evaluated and honoured by the previous regulation.  
The time in excess of the 30 days between the Induction/basic and the  
advanced/simulator course will normally be counted towards the required 6 months  
DP watchkeeping experience.  
On successful completion of the Induction/Basic course the prospective Dynamic  
Positioning Operator will be issued with a Nautical Institute’s Dynamic Positioning  
Operator’s logbook in which the courses, seatime and suitability as a DPO are  
recorded.  
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These courses cannot be taken in consecutive weeks (back to back). This is because  
the seagoing familiarisation gives the prospective DPO the opportunity to reinforce,  
consolidate and put into practice lessons learnt during the Induction/Basic course.  
SEAGOING FAMILIARISATION  
This is a period of 30 days seagoing DP experience during which the prospective DPO  
has to complete the majority of the tasks set out in Section C of The Nautical  
Institute’s Dynamic Positioning Operator’s logbook.  
[B]The Institute does not wish to extend this familiarisation unnecessarily and so, for  
example, if the prospective DPO is on a 28‐day work/leave cycle they may be  
allowed to attend the Simulator/Advanced course after one period of sea service.  
However approval to attend should be sought from the training centre and/or  
Institute.[/B] (emphasis mine)

It is important that as many of the tasks as possible are completed. Furthermore the  
attention of those responsible for signing this section is drawn to the need to  
accurately complete this section. Although the prospective DPO should have manual  
ship handling experience before commencing his/her DP training this task should not  
be signed off unless the Master or Competent Officer is satisfied that the  
prospective DPO has satisfactorily completed this task.  
These tasks should not be block signed, each should be  
an indication that the prospective DPO has  
satisfactorily completed the task. The Institute suggests  
that DPOs take every opportunity afforded to handle  
their vessels in manual control.  
If the Master is the holder of the logbook and there is  
no suitable person to sign the tasks and the declaration  
in section C, then he/she may sign them but must  
provide an additional declaration signed by either their  
relief or a company Manager – The additional  
declaration can be obtained from the Institute or  
downloaded from The Nautical Institute website.  
DP WATCHKEEPING EXPERIENCE  
To be eligible for the issue of a DPO certificate, the  
prospective DPO must have logged the appropriate  
amount of DP time, for the certificate being applied for,  
on a DP Classed vessel. The certificate issued will be  
dependent upon the DP class of the vessels on which  
he/she has served.  
Competent Officer: is a  
deck officer who holds a  
DP Certificate and a  
STCW Certificate of  
Competency issued by a  
Maritime Administration  
on the IMO white list.  
Unsupervised DP sea  
service: is when a DP  
Operator (senior or  
junior) forms part of a  
two man DP watch.  
Supervised DP sea  
service: is where a  
trainee DP Operator is  
the third person on the  
DP watch and never  
operates the equipment  
unless under supervision  
by a qualified senior  
DPO.  
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A DP Classed vessel means the vessel must have a DP class notation and not simply  
be fitted with DP equipment.  
Those prospective DPO’s seeking certification are required to enter the dates on  
which they operated the DP system aboard of the vessel.  
There has been some misunderstanding in regard to the dates entered in the  
logbook for joining and leaving the DP vessel. The dates  
recorded in the logbook should only be for the time the  
vessel was undertaking DP Operations. The logbook  
should not be used as a seaman’s book or discharge book.  
The DP time should be carefully and accurately entered in  
this section. It is important that the DP class and the DP  
system are entered.  
The rank entry should include an indication that the  
prospective DPO had responsibility for the DP. Thus if  
operating the DP system rather than 2nd Mate the entry  
should be DPO/2nd Mate.  
DP SEA TIME REDUCTION  
The period of supervised DP watchkeeping experience may be reduced by the  
satisfactory completion of certain intensive DP courses.  
 Intensive DP simulator training  
 Shuttle tanker offshore loading courses  
 DP competence, assurance and Practice training (DPCAP)  
The Nautical institute recognises but does not accredit the shuttle tanker offshore  
loading or DPCAP training. Third parties approve these courses.  
Details of the DP time reductions for each of the above courses are included in the  
tables below.  
Intensive simulator  
training DP time reduction  
1st week 6 weeks (42 days)  
2nd week 6 weeks (42 days)  
Offshore loading DP time reduction  
Phase 2, 22.5 hrs simulator time 5 weeks (35 days)  
Phase 3, 15 hrs simulator time 3 weeks (21 days)  
[B]DP day: Is any day  
when DP operations  
are undertaken by  
the vessel. (A  
minimum of one hour  
is accepted)[/B]  
Dates on DP: are the  
dates the vessel is  
actively engaged in  
DP operations.  
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None of the above training may be used to replace the DP familiarisation time, the  
final 30 days of DP time or be used for upgrading a certificate.  
The maximum allowable reduction in DP time that may be achieved in attending any  
combination of the above courses, when applying for a certificate is 84 days of the  
required DP time.  
None of the above courses can replace the required 60 days practice on a Class 2 or  
3 vessel when applying for a Full DP certificate.  
Prior to commencing DP time reduction training, Phase 3 (Advanced / Simulator  
course) of the DPO training scheme should be completed, followed by a minimum  
period of 30 days DP sea time.  
A period of at least 30 days DP sea time must be gained between DP time reduction  
training courses.  
As with the other components of the scheme all DP time or courses leading to  
reduction of DP time must have been completed within the previous five years.  
New condition for Sea Time Reduction from 1st January 2013  
The DPTEG meeting of 7th June 2011, determined that the allowable Sea Time Reduction  
course should be reduced from 2 weeks (12 weeks sea time equivalent overall) to 1 week (6  
weeks sea time equivalent overall).  
In order to allow centres that run Sea Time Reduction courses to prepare themselves and  
their booking system, the Nautical Institute is instigating this requirement from 1st of January  
2013.  
Intensive simulator training DP time reduction  
1 week 6 weeks sea time equivalent overall  
For students who commenced their Sea Time Reduction training before January 2013 and  
have more than one entry for this course (more than 6 weeks) in their DP logbook before  
January 2013, the entries will still be acceptable by the Nautical Institute, based in the old  
criteria.  
However, those students who have more than one entry for sea time reduction prior to 2013  
and obtain further entries for the sea time reduction course in 2013, the 2013 entry or any  
subsequent ones will not be considered by the Nautical Institute if the total sea time reduction  
exceeds 6 weeks.  
DP CAP\* DP time reduction  
First cycle 3 weeks (21 days)  
Second cycle 5 weeks (35 days)  
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For those who have started the Sea Time Reduction course after January 2013, the  
maximum allowance to reduce sea time will be 6 weeks.  
All the other conditions will still apply as following:  
The Sea Time Reduction training cannot be used to replace the DP familiarisation time, or the  
final 30 days of DP sea time nor to be used for upgrading a certificate.  
The maximum allowable reduction in DP sea time that may be achieved in attending this  
course, when applying for a certificate is 6 weeks of the required DP sea time.  
This course cannot replace the required 60 days DP service on a Class 2 or 3 vessel when  
applying for a DP certificate.  
Prior to commencing the DP sea time reduction training, Phase 3 (Advanced /Simulator  
course) of the DPO training scheme should be completed, followed by a minimum period of  
30 days DP sea service.  
A period of at least 30 days DP sea service must be gained between the DP sea time  
reduction training courses.  
STATEMENT OF SUITABILITY  
The attention of Masters is drawn to Section F, the “Suitability of officer to  
undertake full watchkeeping responsibility on board a DP vessel. “  
This is the final assessment of the prospective DPO and Masters should carefully  
consider whether they are able to affirm the statements within this section before  
signing.  
Section F should be completed in the final period of sea time prior to a certificate  
application being made.  
Masters signing this should enter their own DP certificate number if held. The  
signature and the ship’s stamp should correspond to the final entry in Section E.  
If the Master is the holder of the logbook he/she should have this section signed by a  
certificated DPO on board who should enter his/her own DP certificate number.  
If the Master finds himself/herself in the position where he/she is unable to have a  
certificated DPO sign this section, he/she should sign this section himself/herself and  
have either their relief or a company marine manager who is aware of their DP  
abilities, to authenticate it.  
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CERTIFICATION APPLICATION  
When applying for the certificate, ALL components of the programme, that is,  
shore‐based courses, seagoing familarisation, supervised DP watchkeeping  
experience and other elements, must have been completed within the previous 5  
years.  
At the time of application, any element of the scheme not completed, within the 5  
year period will have to be repeated.  
DP Operators who have been employed “continuously” as a DPO, but who attended  
their Basic and Simulator / Advanced courses 5 years before applying for their  
certificate, will be awarded a certificate subject to attendance at a  
Simulator/Advanced course at an accredited training centre.  
“Continuous” employment will be interpreted as evidence of an operator being  
employed in a DP vessel for at least 2 years in the last 5 years service at the point of  
applying for the award of a certificate, with the last 6 months being prior to  
application for the certificate.  
The Nautical Institute does not answer “routine” questions about DP time. There is a  
self calculator facility on its website  
THE NAUTICAL INSTITUTE DYNAMIC POSITIONING OPERATOR’S CERTIFICATE  
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[www.nautinst.org/en/dynamic‐positioning/calculator‐public‐form.cfm](http://www.nautinst.org/en/dynamic%E2%80%90positioning/calculator%E2%80%90public%E2%80%90form.cfm)  
All applications must end with a period of sea service (30 days minimum) that is  
concluded with a completed Section F ‐ “Suitability of officer to undertake full  
watchkeeping responsibility on board a DP vessel”. An application that concludes  
with any shore‐based course will not be accepted.  
If the six months supervised DP watchkeeping experience has been exclusively  
aboard DP Class 1 vessels, or there is insufficient Class 2/3 DP time in the event of a  
candidate having a combination of Class 1,2,3 DP time, a DPO certificate endorsed  
with the word “Limited” will be issued.  
It is important that every period of service aboard a DP vessel should have a start  
and finish date and be authenticated by the Master’s signature. Entries without a  
finish date will not be counted towards the required DP time.  
If the prospective DPO wishes to submit his/her logbook whilst still aboard the DP  
vessel he/she should have an appropriate date entered and that date may not be in  
the future. However, as with the tasks in the seagoing DP familarisation, these  
should not be block signed or stamped.  
If the prospective DPO submits his/her logbook and decides to carry on aboard while  
his documents are being assessed and verified by The Nautical Institute, this sea time  
cannot be used or counted towards watchkeeping and/or future upgrade of their DP  
certificate. In this case, the Institute will only consider the sea time gained after the  
issue date of the DP Certificate.  
Candidates and Masters attention is drawn to the document “Logbook Guide” that  
was issued with the logbook and is available on the Institute’s website and on  
request from the Institute.  
[http://www.nautinst.org/en/dynamic‐positioning/guidance/logbookguidance](http://www.nautinst.org/en/dynamic%E2%80%90positioning/guidance/logbookguidance).  
cfm  
It is strongly recommended that the guide is read prior to making an application in  
order to avoid incorrect completion of the logbook. Failure to meet the  
requirements for application of a certificate will cause a delay in the issue of a  
certificate.  
The logbook has been designed such that all elements of the training scheme can be  
completed and entered. In order to apply for a DP Certificate, the applicant is  
required to register his personal details and sea time online, through The Nautical  
Institute website:  
[http://www.nautinst.org/en/dynamic‐positioning/dp‐online.cfm](http://www.nautinst.org/en/dynamic%E2%80%90positioning/dp%E2%80%90online.cfm)  
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After completing it, the applicant should send the following documents to The  
Nautical Institute:  
 Copy of the STCW Certificate (page with personal details, validity date and CoC  
number);  
 Original logbook;  
 Confirmation or testimonial letter from the shipping companies, with the  
following conditions:

1. Be written on original headed paper from the shipping company;
2. Signed and stamped by the Operations Manager, Marine Superintendent  
or HR Manager. (Letters signed by Masters or Agency staff are not  
acceptable).
3. Dated (the letter should be written and therefore dated, only once the  
DPO has achieved the necessary experience);
4. Confirm the total time the applicant has performed as a DP operator on  
board the vessel(s), including the seagoing familiarisation period.
5. Recorded sea time must only include actual DP time served on board the  
vessel(s); not time on leave/attending courses, etc. This DP sea time must be  
broken down and listed as individual trips.
6. Limited DPO certificate holders upgrading to Full certificates only need to  
provide confirmation of DP watchkeeping time gained after their Limited  
certificates were issued.
7. Sea time experience, not covered by a letter will not be considered for the  
DP application unless the candidate can prove extenuating reasons.  
 Copy of the DP application form, which was completed online and sent to the  
candidate’s email address. It is compulsory for pages 7 and 8, to be signed  
where applicable.  
The Institute reserves the right to return incomplete or incorrectly completed  
logbooks to the candidate if the application is not done online or if the candidate  
does not respond to the query within 3 months of the application being received.  
If, however, additional information needs to be submitted, this should be in the form  
of authenticated copies. The Institute may make a charge for processing certificates  
where a significant amount of the required information is in supporting  
documentation rather than the logbook.  
A number of companies have found that a better method of ensuring that only  
suitable candidates from their company apply is to have the logbooks submitted to  
the company in the first instance, which then separately verifies that all the  
requirements have been met. This also assists the company in the management of  
their DP personnel and their training and progression.  
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UPGRADING FROM LIMITED TO UNLIMITED CERTIFICATE  
All applicants for upgrading i.e. removal of the word “limited” must have at least two  
months (60 days) actual DP watchkeeping time aboard DP Class 2 or 3 vessels  
subsequent to the issue of their “Limited” certificate.  
Any DP time on board DP Class 2 or 3 vessels during the seagoing DP familiarisation  
period or previously used to obtain a Limited Certificate may not be used towards  
the time required for the removal of “Limited” from the DP certificate.  
When applying for the removal of “Limited” from the certificate the Institute will  
require the logbook, the original “Limited” certificate and the confirmation letter  
from the shipping company for the new sea time experience. This is to ensure that  
the required additional conditions have been met. The upgrade request should also  
be done through the online system, where the applicant shall use the same  
candidate customer account number, in which was issue his first DP certificate. In  
case the person does not know his/her customer number, it is advised to contact The  
Nautical Institute. At the end, and if appropriate, a new certificate will be issued  
without the endorsement “Limited”.  
A section F (upgrade) will be required to be completed prior to an application being  
made. These can be obtained from the Institute website or by contacting the  
Institute.  
VALIDITY OF CERTIFICATE  
At the moment, the Dynamic Positioning Operator’s certificate remains valid as long  
as the holder operates DP systems regularly. This is defined as a minimum of six  
months DP watchkeeping experience within the previous five years or if the holder  
works as a DP instructor at an Institute accredited training centre.  
Should a period of five years elapse and the holder does not serve aboard DP vessels,  
operate the DP equipment or instruct, the holder should recommence the training at  
the Simulator/Advanced course and complete all the requirements thereafter. On  
the attendance at the Simulator/Advanced course, the training centre will issue a  
new logbook and clearly mark this as part of the certificate renewal process.  
From January 2012, the Institute will start printing a validity date of 5 years from the  
certificate date issued on the certificates. Further instructions and procedures are  
being developed by The Nautical Institute to determine what the period will be for  
mariners who have been issued with a DP license to re‐validate their certificate. The  
re‐validation process will start in January 2014, allowing industry to become familiar  
with the information and procedures.  
Based on STCW standards, The Nautical Institute will consider any one of the  
following for the re‐validation:  
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NI Definition of a “DP day”:

“DP day: Is any day  
when DP operations  
are undertaken by  
the vessel.[B] [SIZE=4](A  
minimum of one hour  
is accepted)[/B][/SIZE]”  
(emphasis mine)

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### Author: ![capitanahn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@capitanahn](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/capitanahn)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2012, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dp-requirements/8547/2 "2012-09-23T10:56:36Z")

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This is new learning, one hour is minimum for one DP day…  
Great info. thank you, Tugsailor…

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### Author: ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dp-requirements/8547/3 "2013-01-25T18:24:24Z")

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Bump re one (1) hour.

I looked for a few minutes, but I did not see anything about allowing tests and audits as DP seatime.

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### Author: ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dp-requirements/8547/4 "2013-01-26T03:26:52Z")

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Try again. Bump.

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### Author: ![futurenmc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@futurenmc](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/futurenmc)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 8:59am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dp-requirements/8547/5 "2013-01-26T08:59:43Z")

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as far as the 30 days of seatime that counts towards your certificate that you obtained PRIOR to taking the basic class…Do you have to hold your license? be sailing on your license? or Be on the boat? I guess what im asking is if someone has their license but is sailing as a deckhand will this time still count? Anyone have any idea
