# Downsizing

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/downsizing/65574>\
**Category:** Military Sealift Command\
**Created:** [March 9, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/downsizing/65574 "2023-03-09T12:28:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![MikeBLane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@MikeBLane](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/MikeBLane)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/downsizing/65574/1 "2023-03-09T12:28:19Z")

</div>

A number of ships have already reported losing licensed engine billets because of manning. Funny they think this is how to solve the manning crisis. I guess it looks better on paper?

It would seem they are only targeting tankers and 86ing one of the 3AE billets. Why punish an already thin crowd?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![UnRepKing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7bcc69/32.png) [@UnRepKing](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/UnRepKing)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/downsizing/65574/2 "2023-03-09T18:39:46Z")

</div>

For a while now they have been forcing T-AKEs to keep one 3rd AE billet gapped. Not that big of a deal really considering that the ships were billeted for five 3rd AEs.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![NorCal\_Mariner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b4bc9f/32.png) [@NorCal\_Mariner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/NorCal_Mariner)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/downsizing/65574/3 "2023-03-10T15:21:14Z")

</div>

Funny to think about 7 or 8 years ago, they had so many 3/Os and 3A/Es, ships had “augments”.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![samat3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@samat3](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/samat3)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 12:04pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/downsizing/65574/4 "2023-03-11T12:04:06Z")

</div>

Not just the engine department. The official _goa_l for filling AB billets, on all ships, is 50% manning!

Yet the Navy still wants all stations manned for UNREPS. They need to bite the bullet and lay up a few ships, and take CIVMARS off Navy/MSC manned vessels, and let them be all Navy again.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Tugboater203](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/tugboater203/32/14108_2.png) [@Tugboater203](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tugboater203)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/downsizing/65574/5 "2023-03-11T14:12:59Z")

</div>

All of the armed forces are having trouble meeting recruitment goals. Adding a bunch of ships to the Navy is only shifting the problem, not solving it.