# Diesel in the news (again) **URL:** \ **Category:** Scuttlebutt\ **Created:** [October 21, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987 "2026-10-21T21:20:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/1 "2026-10-21T21:20:32Z")
> **[Will Russia’s diesel shipment to the US lower prices before midterms?](https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2026/10/21/will-russias-diesel-shipment-to-the-us-lower-prices-before-midterms)** > > Moscow dispatches its inaugural diesel shipment to the US, aiming to ease fuel shortages as midterm elections loom. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/2 "2026-10-21T21:27:25Z")
Are any diesel fuel on the way to the US yet?🙂: > **[Will Russia’s diesel shipment to the US lower prices before midterms?](https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2026/10/21/will-russias-diesel-shipment-to-the-us-lower-prices-before-midterms)** > > Moscow dispatches its inaugural diesel shipment to the US, aiming to ease fuel shortages as midterm elections loom. > **[Novak: Russian diesel to US to start from Baltic ports](https://breakingthenews.net/Article/Novak:-Russian-diesel-to-US-to-start-from-Baltic-ports/67366403)** > > Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said on Wednesday that Russian diesel exports to the United States would primarily depart from Baltic ports, with the first tanker carrying 40,000 metric ... ---
**Author:** ![Rock\_Hill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rock\_Hill](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Rock_Hill)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 2:37am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/3 "2026-10-22T02:37:26Z")
Pretty sad that we as a nation will be taking fuel from an aggressive totalitarian all to keep prices down. I’d much rather pay more at the pump or for goods and have less people die, but apparently our current administration values fuel prices over human lives. Where’s that Bible that Trump use to hold up? ---
**Author:** ![Handspake](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/handspake/32/71168_2.png) [@Handspake](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Handspake)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 6:44am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/4 "2026-10-22T06:44:13Z")
Herr Bugge. Is this post about economics or politics as some here representing predatory , murdering state have already made provoking statements . Would U ( as i do ) interpret such deliveries as an example of meddling in US eelections by…invitation? ---
**Author:** ![Handspake](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/handspake/32/71168_2.png) [@Handspake](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Handspake)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 7:40am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/5 "2026-10-22T07:40:55Z")
If first ships are from the Baltic range , then POTUS needs to order all states in this NATO lake to stop harassment of charted ships hauling russian cargo as well as meddling with cables to create extra hype. Can imagine the outrage of flag waving states there ,willing to upset and derail this plan. I see two options to discourage them from doing sth stupid. A) Russian navy escorts B) guess what ??? US navy escorts. 😂 😂 😂 Can U imagine the faces of two biggest idiots in EU (sorry ladies)🙂 Ursula Fond of Lying und homo ignoramus bitch Kaja Kallas ? ---
**Author:** ![Gruntledemployee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d78d45/32.png) [@Gruntledemployee](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Gruntledemployee)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/6 "2026-10-22T14:23:25Z")
There is a scene in the movie ‘Grosse Point Blank’ where an assasin sells ammunition to another assasin while they’re shooting at each other. It’s difficult to reconcile so many absurdities on all sides. ---
**Author:** ![Snow\_White](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Snow\_White](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Snow_White)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/7 "2026-10-22T20:34:28Z")
Except it won’t lower the price of diesel significantly. We’re buying bombs for Russia to drop on Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![Snow\_White](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Snow\_White](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Snow_White)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/8 "2026-10-22T20:39:15Z")
They are both much smarter than you. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/9 "2026-10-22T21:22:52Z")
> [@Snow\_White](#): > > We’re buying bombs for Russia to drop on Ukraine. And worst of all, the Russians are buying the bombs from the Chinese, not US bomb maker. Where is the profit for US taxpayers in that? Oh well, even if they bought the bombs from US manufacturers, the profit would go to speculators, especially those with access to inside information.🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Rock\_Hill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rock\_Hill](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Rock_Hill)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/10 "2026-10-22T21:38:17Z")
At least when we provide munitions to Ukraine, US arms makers and the economy as whole benefit somewhat, though in an ugly military industrial complex way. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/11 "2026-10-22T21:42:28Z")
Especially since it is paid for by European countries, not gifted and paid for by US tax money. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 9:51pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/12 "2026-10-22T21:51:25Z")
Maybe that would have been a smart way for USA to secure extra diesel supply as well?🙂: > **[Macron makes surprise Saudi visit as France secures extra diesel supplies](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/10/21/macron-makes-surprise-saudi-visit-as-france-secures-extra-diesel-supplies)** > > French president meets Mohammed bin Salman in Riyadh to discuss energy, security, and infrastructure. PS: Would have been a lot less controversial, both strategic and political. Besides, no need to free up “shadow fleet” tankers to carry the diesel to markets in Europe and USA. (Via the Suez canal, not Bab al Mandab) ---
**Author:** ![Handspake](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/handspake/32/71168_2.png) [@Handspake](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Handspake)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 10:06pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/13 "2026-10-22T22:06:51Z")
Sure thing they are. That is why they are in EU parliament , where the top dog liars ,con artists and non elected embezzlers dwell and not on gCaptain forum madam snow white. ---
**Author:** ![Handspake](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/handspake/32/71168_2.png) [@Handspake](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Handspake)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2026, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/14 "2026-10-22T22:09:51Z")
At least here You are fair Herr Bugge 😂 Noted that from diesel again You quickly morphed to bombing topics again Herr Bugge. Wonder how long this thread will survive 😂 ---
**Author:** ![tengineer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@tengineer1](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tengineer1)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2026, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/15 "2026-10-23T01:34:48Z")
> [@ombugge](#): > > Especially since it is paid for by European countries, not gifted and paid for by US tax money. That’s soon to change as Netanyahu and Trump are getting ready to bomb Iran some more because, well elections are coming up in both countries. This will cause Iran to attack US allies in the region who will need to restock more US weapons. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2026, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/16 "2026-10-23T20:40:30Z")
OK back to diesel and the deal that started this thread: > **[1.7M views · 90K reactions | More On The Diesel Story #dieselprices...](https://www.facebook.com/reel/1533251461893743?rdid=8sXlqPxokH2x3Rk4&share_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fshare%2Fv%2F18d8eZUBaU%2F)** > > More On The Diesel Story > #dieselprices #gasprices #OilPrices #educationalcontent #explained #BreakingNews This thread is saved.😅 ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/17 "2026-10-24T12:39:28Z")
> **[Inside the legal design of America's Russia sanctions U-turn](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/inside-legal-design-americas-russia-161812214.html)** > > The first Russian diesel tanker under the new deal between Russia and the United States is now heading for New York with a 40,000-metric-ton cargo, enough to cover barely two hours of American demand.... > [@](#): > > ## **Who benefits** > > What stands out is the license design, which does far more for Moscow than for the Americans it was meant to help. Unlike earlier licenses, which lasted 30 days and covered only cargoes already at sea, GL 135 covers Russian diesel sold anywhere in the world until April 2027, giving Russian exporters six months to supply both existing and new buyers. > > After the signed waiver, the benefit to American consumers is yet to be seen, while Moscow’s revenue will be immediate. > > For American consumers, [the gains are limited](https://www.cnbc.com/2026/10/13/trump-putin-zelenskyy-russia-ukraine-diesel-oil-price.html): the promised volumes equal less than two weeks of U.S. demand. Moreover, the[Ending Importation of Russian Oil Act](https://www.clydeco.com/en/insights/2026/10/ofac-authorizes-us-imports-of-russian-diesel) of 2022 still bans Russian energy imports into the U.S. until Ukraine accepts the peace agreement, a condition that has not been met. > > Thus, the potential U.S. diesel importers who would rely on the license [risk](https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/dissecting-trump-s-deal-for-russian-diesel) civil penalties up to the value of their cargo and the forfeiture of their ships, which a presidential pardon cannot cancel. With so much at stake, few importers are likely to take that risk, which may explain why Trump presents the deal as supply for “[the American and Global Marketplace](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/117412435306815143).” > > The 2022 import ban applies only to the U.S., so the diesel will go to buyers in the global markets. > > There, the license lets traders, shippers and banks handle Russian diesel and take dollar payments without breaching U.S. sanctions, and the proceeds go to Russia’s oil companies. > > Meanwhile, Kyiv is under pressure from Washington, which reportedly [urged](https://axios.com/2026/10/10/trump-zelensky-putin-diesel-deal-war) Ukraine to stop striking [Russian refineries](https://kyivindependent.com/tag/oil-refineries/), the same facilities that now supply the diesel its license has brought back to market. > > ## **The cost to credibility** > > The wider cost is the loss of credibility of U.S. sanctions globally. > > Washington has pressured India and China to buy less Russian oil by adding an [extra 25% tariff on Indian goods](https://www.squirepattonboggs.com/insights/publications/sanctions-by-statute-the-graham-act-and-tariffs-on-russia-s-energy-buyers/), which was later withdrawn. > > The Graham Act was meant to fill that gap and write these secondary tariffs into a law. The waiver shows that U.S. sanctions are less a firm commitment and can shift after a phone call. > > The law may offer firmer ground than politics. Lawmakers argue the diesel license [conflicts](https://www.clydeco.com/en/insights/2026/10/ofac-authorizes-us-imports-of-russian-diesel) with the 2022 import ban, which could invite a legal challenge. Some have also[called for limits](https://www.steptoe.com/en/news-publications/international-compliance-blog/weekly-sanctions-update-october-19-2026.html) on the president’s waiver power. Whether Congress acts will show if it is willing to defend the sanctions it wrote. > > The question is whether this is a temporary detour or a new direction. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/18 "2026-10-25T13:45:28Z")
From WaPo today: > [@](#): > > He is after votes for Republicans, so he wants to shred another law, the one against buying energy from Russia. > > He wants to buy diesel, which he weirdly thinks will arrive in time to lower the prices that have furious farmers blaming the Iran war for making it excruciating to fuel their combines. And long-haul truckers are incandescent about [$1,000 fill-ups](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/02/us/truckers-diesel-costs.html). > > Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, 93, who has seen much but not learned enough in his 51 years on Capitol Hill, [wants Trump to ban diesel exports](https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/remarks/grassley-continues-push-to-lower-consumer-costs-renews-calls-for-permanent-e15-temporary-diesel-export-ban). He approvingly cites President Richard M. Nixon’s [1973 ban](https://www.nytimes.com/1973/06/28/archives/soybeans-and-cottonseed-under-export-embargo-soybeans-and.html) of soybean exports. Herewith another tutorial about the Law of Unintended Consequences, which is: The unintended consequences of 10-thumbed government interventions in social complexities are often larger than, and contrary to, the intended ones. Source: [https://wapo.st/4kebijQ](https://wapo.st/4kebijQ) (Gift article) ---
**Author:** ![powerabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@powerabout](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/powerabout)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/19 "2026-10-26T13:20:53Z")
who are buying arms from USA ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987/20 "2026-10-26T14:50:22Z")
Is that a statement; who are buying arms from USA. (WHO are who?) Or is that a question; who are buying arms from USA? [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/diesel-in-the-news-again/77987.md?page=2)