# Dde 1000/4000

**URL:** <https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dde-1000-4000/69094>\
**Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\
**Created:** [April 9, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dde-1000-4000/69094 "2024-04-09T19:08:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![MrBiggz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MrBiggz](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/MrBiggz)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dde-1000-4000/69094/1 "2024-04-09T19:08:22Z")

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Can anyone help me out with this. I worked as an unlicensed engineer in the engine room department on OSV for years. I never held a Qmed. Can i take the DDE 1,000/4,000?without having Q-med endorsement i do have more than enough seatime and appropriate Horsepower to qualify for my DDE.

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**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dde-1000-4000/69094/2 "2024-04-09T21:30:17Z")

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I know a few DDEs that didn’t have ‘qmed’ time. Shouldn’t be a problem as long as your sea service letters are worded correctly i.e. unlicensed engineer.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dde-1000-4000/69094/3 "2024-04-09T22:45:19Z")

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> [@MrBiggz](#):
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> I worked as an unlicensed engineer

Were you an unlicensed engineer or an unlicensed member of the engine department?

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**Author:** ![MrBiggz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MrBiggz](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/MrBiggz)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dde-1000-4000/69094/4 "2024-04-09T23:59:02Z")

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I worked as an Unlicensed Engineer

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**Author:** ![MrBiggz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MrBiggz](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/MrBiggz)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dde-1000-4000/69094/5 "2024-04-09T23:59:32Z")

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Seatime is worded As an Unlicensed Engineer

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**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dde-1000-4000/69094/6 "2024-04-10T00:21:17Z")

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When i got my first DDE back in 2012, i had some time that was ‘unlicensed engineer’ time. The letter specified that it was on a vessel that didn’t require a licensed engineer and i was responsible for watch standing and duties in the ER. I did hold a qmed at the same time, but no seatime AS a qmed was submitted being i’ve bounced back and forth between deck and engine. I didn’t have any problems.

I know a few guys who were in similar situations without holding a qmed and they had no problems either.

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**Author:** ![Alex63](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cc9497/32.png) [@Alex63](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Alex63)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/dde-1000-4000/69094/7 "2024-04-10T22:43:41Z")

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When I applied for my DDE I put “Unlicensed engineer” and they had no problem. The only thing they asked me to specify if it is a “Walk-in engine room”.