# Cutter Sycamore vs. barge **URL:** \ **Category:** Marine Incidents\ **Created:** [July 29, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814 "2013-07-29T23:39:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tradsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@tradsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tradsailor)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/1 "2013-07-29T23:39:38Z")
Any thoughts on what might have gone wrong? The flood can rip thru there (at least up by the city dock). Maybe a late turn to the Aml dock with a strong flood running? ---
**Author:** ![rshrew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/rshrew/32/107_2.png) [@rshrew](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/rshrew)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 5:21am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/2 "2013-07-30T05:21:52Z")
> [@"tradsailor"](#): > > Any thoughts on what might have gone wrong? The flood can rip thru there (at least up by the city dock). Maybe a late turn to the Aml dock with a strong flood running? Sometimes it helps to switch off the auto pilot when going to maneuver… ---
**Author:** ![Traitor\_Yankee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/traitor_yankee/32/876_2.png) [@Traitor\_Yankee](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Traitor_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 9:00am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/3 "2013-07-30T09:00:24Z")
> [@"rshrew"](#): > > Sometimes it helps to switch off the auto pilot when going to maneuver… Knowing what you are doing helps too ---
**Author:** ![BMCSRetired](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/bmcsretired/32/1005_2.png) [@BMCSRetired](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BMCSRetired)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 11:38am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/4 "2013-07-30T11:38:39Z")
[QUOTE=“Traitor Yankee;115970”] Knowing what you are doing helps too[/QUOTE] I am praying they were not on DP when this happened. I used to love teaching the youngsters but always made sure I could get out of what they got me into. U know who u r… ---
**Author:** ![Bayrunner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/bayrunner/32/966_2.png) [@Bayrunner](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bayrunner)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/5 "2013-07-30T12:14:38Z")
Any Links? ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/6 "2013-07-30T12:28:47Z")
[QUOTE=Bayrunner;115991]Any Links?[/QUOTE] The CG is calling it an allision and the newspaper reports the cutter was moored so, based on the minimal information available, for a change, it’s kind of hard to blame the CG. [http://coastguardnews.com/coast-guard-cutter-sycamore-damaged-in-barge-allision-in-cordova-alaska/2013/07/28/](http://coastguardnews.com/coast-guard-cutter-sycamore-damaged-in-barge-allision-in-cordova-alaska/2013/07/28/) > **[Barge collides with docked Coast Guard cutter in Cordova](https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/article/barge-collides-docked-coast-guard-cutter-cordova/2013/07/29/)** > > A barge struck the Coast Guard Cutter Sycamore while it stood docked in Cordova on Sunday morning. ---
**Author:** ![BMCSRetired](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/bmcsretired/32/1005_2.png) [@BMCSRetired](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BMCSRetired)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/7 "2013-07-30T12:58:29Z")
Sound’s like a barge hit someone moored. Damn tug guys… ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/8 "2013-07-30T13:16:05Z")
[QUOTE=BMCSRetired;115993]Sound’s like a barge hit someone moored. Damn tug guys…[/QUOTE] Poor tug guys … it’s like backing up into a police car. ---
**Author:** ![BMCSRetired](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/bmcsretired/32/1005_2.png) [@BMCSRetired](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BMCSRetired)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/9 "2013-07-30T15:27:11Z")
[QUOTE=“Steamer;115995”] Poor tug guys … it’s like backing up into a police car.[/QUOTE] There but for the grace of God go I. ---
**Author:** ![Traitor\_Yankee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/traitor_yankee/32/876_2.png) [@Traitor\_Yankee](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Traitor_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/10 "2013-07-30T18:25:14Z")
> [@"BMCSRetired"](#): > > Sound’s like a barge hit someone moored. Damn tug guys… The one time I open my mouth… ---
**Author:** ![commtuna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@commtuna](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/commtuna)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/11 "2013-07-30T23:53:22Z")
CGC SYCAMORE was moored when she was hit. ---
**Author:** ![renoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/858c86/32.png) [@renoun](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/renoun)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/12 "2013-07-31T00:43:08Z")
The [Anchorage Daily News](http://www.adn.com/2013/07/30/2999396/ntsb-to-investigate-after-barge.html) is reporting that the NTSB will investigate the allision. > CORDOVA – The National Transportation Safety Board will investigate after a barge hit a moored Coast Guard cutter. > The NTSB says in a release that the accident happened Sunday in the Cordova harbor when the tug Krystal Sea was moving its attached barge, the Cordova Provider… ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/13 "2013-07-31T02:54:16Z")
[QUOTE=renoun;116040]The [Anchorage Daily News](http://www.adn.com/2013/07/30/2999396/ntsb-to-investigate-after-barge.html) is reporting that the NTSB will investigate the allision.[/QUOTE] Oh, an oil company with ex-CG admirals in charge of their marine ops lets a drillship drift aground, approves a whackjob towing scheme with an unproven tug that loses power for mysterious reasons and loses a drill rig that ends up on the rocks and the NTSB isn’t interested but when a CG cutter gets a bent bulwark they send in the cavalry. WTF is going on? ---
**Author:** ![c.captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/c.captain/32/807_2.png) [@c.captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/c.captain)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/14 "2013-07-31T03:11:12Z")
[QUOTE=Steamer;116046]Oh, an oil company with ex-CG admirals in charge of their marine ops lets a drillship drift aground, approves a whackjob towing scheme with an unproven tug that loses power for mysterious reasons and loses a drill rig that ends up on the rocks and the NTSB isn’t interested but when a CG cutter gets a bent bulwark they send in the cavalry. WTF is going on?[/QUOTE] Buddy Custard was not an ex admiral there Steamer and thank God for that! can you imagine how much more ridiculous the clown circus would have been last year if it was an ex USCG Admiral at the helm? ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/15 "2013-07-31T04:55:32Z")
[QUOTE=c.captain;116049]Buddy Custard was not an ex admiral there Steamer and thank God for that! [/QUOTE] I stand corrected, thank you. Let me rephrase that: [I]An oil company peppered and polluted with ex-admirals and retread coasties …[/I] Do you think that because none of the gilded gang can be blamed, the NTSB feels it is safe to investigate this one? ---
**Author:** ![rshrew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/rshrew/32/107_2.png) [@rshrew](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/rshrew)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 7:49am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/16 "2013-07-31T07:49:07Z")
> [@"Steamer"](#): > > I stand corrected, thank you. > > Let me rephrase that: An oil company peppered and polluted with ex-admirals and retread coasties … > > Do you think that because none of the gilded gang can be blamed, the NTSB feels it is safe to investigate this one? Pretty ridiculous if you ask me! ---
**Author:** ![commtuna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@commtuna](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/commtuna)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/17 "2013-07-31T11:44:30Z")
Wheres a banging-head-against-wall emoticon when you need one… ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/18 "2013-07-31T12:13:31Z")
[QUOTE=rshrew;116082]Pretty ridiculous if you ask me![/QUOTE] Which bit? The NTSB taking an interest in a fender bender or the NTSB ignoring the stuff that really ought to be investigated thoroughly? ---
**Author:** ![rshrew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/rshrew/32/107_2.png) [@rshrew](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/rshrew)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 12:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/19 "2013-07-31T12:34:07Z")
> [@"Steamer"](#): > > Which bit? The NTSB taking an interest in a fender bender or the NTSB ignoring the stuff that really ought to be investigated thoroughly? Ignoring stuff of course! ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cutter-sycamore-vs-barge/10814/20 "2013-07-31T13:46:16Z")
[QUOTE=rshrew;116105]Ignoring stuff of course![/QUOTE] That’s what I hoped you meant. They are pretty safe sticking to second guessing a poor tugboater … not much risk to their budget or retirement looking at them. - - - Updated - - - [QUOTE=commtuna;116101]Wheres a banging-head-against-wall emoticon when you need one…[/QUOTE] I guess they figure we would wear it out if it were one of the choices … I tried to paste one but it won’t stick.