# Cruise ship carrying 206 people runs aground in Greenland | CNN **URL:** \ **Category:** Marine Incidents\ **Created:** [September 13, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129 "2023-09-13T13:22:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/1 "2023-09-13T13:22:01Z")
[https://www.cnn.com/travel/cruise-ship-ocean-explorer-runs-aground-greenland/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/travel/cruise-ship-ocean-explorer-runs-aground-greenland/index.html) > The Ocean Explorer got into trouble on Monday in Alpefjord, a dramatic and rugged stretch of Northeast Greenland National Park, and has not been able to free itself, according to a statement from Denmark’s Joint Arctic Command (JAC). I’d think this ship would have electronics out the ying-yang. EDIT: To be clear I mean to say too much reliance on electronics can be an error in some instances. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/2 "2023-09-13T20:40:12Z")
North East Greenland is not very well charted yet, so even with all kinds of electronics it is risky waters to operate in. PS\> Don’t know if she is equipped with “forward looking sonar” though (??) That is probably the best electronic equipment you could have in those waters. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 9:47am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/3 "2023-09-14T09:47:19Z")
Attempt to pull her free failed: > **[Trawler fails to free luxury cruise ship grounded in Greenland with 85...](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-14/cruiseship-stuck-in-greenland/102853914)** > > A fishing trawler's attempt to free a luxury cruise ship that ran aground two days ago in a remote part of Greenland has failed, leaving the vessel and the 206 people on board still stranded. The “trawler” is actually the Fisheries Research vessel Tarajoq: > **[VESSEL REVIEW | Tarajoq – Fisheries research vessel designed for Greenland’s...](https://www.bairdmaritime.com/work-boat-world/specialised-fields/marine-research-and-training/vessel-review-tarajoq-fisheries-research-vessel-designed-for-greenlands-waters/)** > > The Greenland Institute of Natural Resources (Pinngortitaleriffik) recently took delivery of a new research vessel built by Spain’s Balenciaga Shipyard. Named Tarajoq after the old Inuit word for “Sea” as well as the Greenlandic word for “Salt,” the... ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 11:07am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/4 "2023-09-14T11:07:44Z")
“Out the ying-yang”, means everything they needed and more. Meant the bridge crew may have had an excess of electronics but was perhaps missing some other element of navigation. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/5 "2023-09-14T12:19:17Z")
> [@Kennebec\_Captain](#): > > Out the ying-yang”, means everything they needed and more Thank you for explaining, otherwise how would I understand what you meant? No I did not think you meant “up the ying-yang” (that would not have been polite), nor “Yin and Yang” in Chinese: [Yin and Yang - World History Encyclopedia](https://www.worldhistory.org/Yin_and_Yang/) > [@Kennebec\_Captain](#): > > but was perhaps missing some other element of navigation Are you implying that the navigators MAY have lacked the required knowledge and skills? I don’t know who was on the bridge at the time, but I would not make any assumptions about his/hers/their skills. PS\> Most likely there would have been an ice pilot, or eqv. on board on this expedition. To operate in the uncharted waters of North East Greenland does require special skills, maybe even more so than around your old haunts in Alaska. Whole islands are known to appear and disappear and bottom contours changes from iceberg scouring and deposit of sand and gravel as icebergs calf into the fjord Alpefjord: > **[Alpefjord, Northeast Greenland National Park | GRID-Arendal](https://www.grida.no/resources/3913)** > > The combined snouts of two glaciers, Gully Glacier and Sefstrøm Glacier are calving icebergs into the Alpefjord. Northeast Greenland National Park is the world's largest and most northerly national park. Established in 1974 and expanded to its... > **[Alpefjord](https://mapcarta.com/19195036)** > > Alpefjord is a bay in Greenland. Mapcarta, the open map. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/6 "2023-09-14T21:49:02Z")
She has been pulled off and free: > **[Greenland cruise ship pulled free after three days stuck in mud](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66810810)** > > The Ocean Explorer with 206 people on board had been stuck since Monday, with some catching Covid. > [@](#): > > The ship was eventually dislodged “based on a pull” from a Greenland government-owned trawler called Tarajoq, which means “salt” in Greenlandic, as well as Ocean Explorer’s own power. > > SunStone said: “The vessel and its passengers will now be positioned to a port where the vessel’s bottom damages can be assessed and the passengers will be taken to a port from which they can be flown back home.” > > There had been no pollution to the environment and no breach of the hull, it added. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/6/4/64e1e5dc5cfa869b4af7e29c2d2b2f78cbf38d36.jpeg) The Ocean Explorer became stranded in the remote Northeast Greenland National Park ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/7 "2023-09-15T12:42:43Z")
This vessel is managed by Anglo Eastern Cruise Management, Miami: > **[Anglo Eastern Cruise Management - Fleet Management Services](https://www.cmishipmanagement.com/)** > > Anglo Eastern Cruise Management is a leading passenger ship and fleet management company, providing highly customized services from technical ship management and crew management to vessel accounting. They specialize in the management of small Expedition Cruise ships, operating worldwide, incl. the Arctic and Antarctic: > **[Anglo Eastern Cruise Management - Ships](https://www.cmishipmanagement.com/our-fleet)** > > Anglo Eastern Cruise Management strives to deliver the best experience aboard some of the world’s most extraordinary ships. From an arctic expedition ship to an sun-soaked cruise ship. > **[Anglo Eastern Cruise Management – Crew Management](https://www.cmishipmanagement.com/services/crewing)** > > Anglo Eastern Cruise Management’s dedicated team of experts provide specialized crew management and training for all types of ship operations. Anybody feel the urge for some polar adventure?: > **[Cruise Management International – Career Opportunities](https://www.cmishipmanagement.com/contact-us/careers)** > > Cruise Management International, seeks exceptional cruise ship officers, crewmembers, and engineers to serve aboard ships around the world. Learn about our career opportunities! ---
**Author:** ![LupusProximo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/lupusproximo/32/35917_2.png) [@LupusProximo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/LupusProximo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/8 "2023-09-15T13:21:42Z")
The input of " Anglo Eastern ships involved in accidents" into google search engine reveals interesting data. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/9 "2023-09-15T14:13:22Z")
> [@LupusProximo](#): > > Anglo Eastern ships involved in accidents Are you referring to this article?: > **[Anglo-Eastern hit with India recruitment ban - Splash247](https://splash247.com/anglo-eastern-hit-with-india-recruitment-ban/)** > > Anglo-Eastern, a shipmanager with more investments in India than most maritime companies, has run into difficulty in the world’s most populous nation.  In a long-running case involving the death of a chief engineer onboard an... The case was resolved last month: > **[No India recruitment ban for Anglo-Eastern - Splash247](https://splash247.com/no-india-recruitment-ban-for-anglo-eastern/)** > > Hong Kong-based shipmanager Anglo-Eastern has resolved the issues regarding a potential ban on the company’s recruitment placement and service licence (RPSL) in India. India’s Directorate General of Shipping decided in June to suspend the manager’s... Anglo Eastern Group has over 700 ocean going ships under management in their worldwide operations. That is more than many national registers: > **[Anglo-Eastern fleet set to cross the 700-ship mark - Splash247](https://splash247.com/anglo-eastern-fleet-set-to-cross-the-700-ship-mark/)** > > Cementing its place on the shipmanagement podium, the fleet at Hong Kong’s Anglo-Eastern is about to surpass the 700-ship mark. Speaking at the company’s annual conference in Mumbai, where more than 1,000 delegates are in attendance including Splash,... PS\> Anglo Eastern Cruise Management is a small and specialized segment of their operation. ---
**Author:** ![LupusProximo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/lupusproximo/32/35917_2.png) [@LupusProximo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/LupusProximo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 9:05am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/10 "2023-09-16T09:05:02Z")
I followed your links regarding this particular “specialized” segment and found they have a pool of 42 nationalities including Latvia. Ukraine, India and many others. According to many comments here(gCaptain forum) it is a reservoir of FOC cheap labour . I find it difficult of mixing “cheap " with " high quality”. But I may be wrong of course. STCW is a standard but You know very well it is a " miniumum" standard" ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 11:18am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/11 "2023-09-16T11:18:34Z")
Article in gCaptain: > **[Cruise Ship's Grounding Highlights Risk of More Ships in the Arctic](https://gcaptain.com/cruise-ships-grounding-highlights-risks-of-more-ships-in-the-arctic/)** > > The grounding of a luxury cruise ship off the coast of Greenland on Monday highlighted the irony of touring the fast-warming Arctic on vessels powered by fossil fuels, the main culprit in climate change. But the incident... According to the article the ship “was mired in glacial silt in a remote fjord”. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/e/7/e7b663cc0dcaccc50a21aac7f0c97f6b7c62da4e.jpeg) Is that glacial silt in the near background? Ship’s web page: > **[Ocean Explorer - Aurora Expeditions™](https://www.aurora-expeditions.com/ship-ocean-explorer/)** > > Accommodating just 134 expeditioners, the Ocean Explorer was purpose-built for expedition travel to the world’s most remote destinations. This is the section that made me think that the ship must have electronics up the wazoo but I don’t know exactly what this means as far as what was actually onboard. _“This small ship is outfitted with the latest cutting-edge technology, sustainability and navigation capabilities”_ From the article: > More ship traffic also means a higher risk of accidents in remote, poorly mapped areas known for harsh and unpredictable weather conditions. The subject of poorly charted areas was [the subject of this recent thread.](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/submerged-rock-led-to-an-alaskan-fishing-vessel-grounding-capsizing/67030/3) ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/12 "2023-09-16T12:33:08Z")
> [@Kennebec\_Captain](#): > > [Ocean Explorer - Aurora Expeditions™](https://www.aurora-expeditions.com/ship-ocean-explorer/) I can’t find a detailed equipment list for the Ulstein CX103 design, but here is the nearest I have found to it yet: [https://www.rivieramm.com/news-content-hub/news-content-hub/infinity-class-cruise-ships-smoother-sailing-deeper-exploration-61358](https://www.rivieramm.com/news-content-hub/news-content-hub/infinity-class-cruise-ships-smoother-sailing-deeper-exploration-61358) ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/13 "2023-09-16T13:58:10Z")
Hubris, that’s the word that comes to mind, the term "cutting-edge technology on the web site and the grounding in the news. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/14 "2023-09-16T16:31:21Z")
> [@LupusProximo](#): > > They have a pool of 42 nationalities including Latvia. Ukraine, India and many others. In today’s international shipping it is not the passport you carry (nor your race or religion) that counts. Are you qualified, able and willing to do the job that is offered, at a cost that is acceptable relative to what others with the same qualifications demand? That is the criteria that is used by the crewing department. I don’t know the nationality, or qualifications of the Master, officers and crew of the Ocean Explorer, but I’m not prepared to accept that they were “unqualified” because the ship run aground in a place like Alpefjord, NE Greenland > [@LupusProximo](#): > > STCW is a standard but You know very well it is a " miniumum" standard" Yes it is a “minimum standard”, as is most “standards”. It is a lot better than in the days with no standard and a lot of fake licences. There are many here that appears to think that all FOC-ships are manned by underpaid and unqualified crews, built and operated to inferior standards, but that is not the fact. Yes there are ships like that, but the reputable FOC registers holds a good standard and is at or near the top of both Paris and Tokyo MoU. PS\> Pay and conditions are not bad either, if this is anything to go by: > **[Marine MAN Ltd ®](https://jobmarineman.com/)** > > Ship Managment ---
**Author:** ![DamnYankee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/damnyankee/32/514_2.png) [@DamnYankee](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/DamnYankee)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/15 "2023-09-17T14:41:52Z")
> [@ombugge](#): > > There are many here that appears to think that all FOC-ships are manned by underpaid and unqualified crews, built and operated to inferior standards, but that is not the fact. I took over a ship years ago that was under Anglo Eastern management. ISM records were impeccable. The gremlins being hidden under the surface spoke otherwise. Not an indictment of the company at large or the people who work for them, just my experience with them. We also found all sorts of homemade tools and parts, parts that were used and repackaged in their original wrapping, etc. Not typically a good indicator of a top notch operation, but maybe I am just biased like you say. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/16 "2023-09-17T15:24:22Z")
For over 40 years (1974-2015) I inspected ships, rigs, barges and boats, owned, managed and crewed by people of many nationalities, and could tell you horror stories galore. (Incl. what you described and worse) PS\> Not limited to FOCs, or any specific nationalities. In my experience things have changed for the better over time, especially since STCW was implemented and digitalization has made it easier to check credentials worldwide. Stricter rules implemented by IMO, Flag states and Class has changed things for the better in shipping, as has IMCA and OCIMF (OVID) inspections in the Offshore industries. Port State Control is intended as an “incentive” to keep the rules function, which it does to an extent. I’m fully aware of the limitation of all these Authorities, Rules, Regulations and Organizations, but the alternative would be back to the not so “good ol’ days”, or worse. ---
**Author:** ![dbeierl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dbeierl/32/11833_2.png) [@dbeierl](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/dbeierl)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/17 "2023-09-17T16:38:26Z")
> [@Kennebec\_Captain](#): > > cutting-edge technology We used to call that “bleeding-edge technology”. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/18 "2023-09-17T20:14:48Z")
> [@Kennebec\_Captain](#): > > [Ocean Explorer - Aurora Expeditions™](https://www.aurora-expeditions.com/ship-ocean-explorer/) I still haven’t found any detailed Equipment List for the Ocean Explorer, but in the contract for the first Ulstein CX 103 design vessels for Sandstone this was specified: > [@](#): > > Ulstein Power & Control AS has also been awarded a contract for system delivery. This includes the bridge system ULSTEIN BRIDGE, the communication and entertainment system ULSTEIN COM, the integrated automation system ULSTEIN IAS and the power pack ULSTEIN POWER. The equipment delivery is scheduled for the first quarter of 2018. Source: [Sunstone - Bygg nr. CMHI-196-1/-10 ved CMHI, ULSTEIN CX103 "Greg Mortimer/Sylvia Earle/Ocean Victory/Ocean Explorer/Ocean Odyssey/Ocean Albatross" | Norsk Skipsfarts Forum](https://skipsfarts-forum.net/index.php?threads/sunstone-bygg-nr-cmhi-196-1-10-ved-cmhi-ulstein-cx103-greg-mortimer-sylvia-earle-ocean-victory-ocean-explorer-ocean-odyssey-ocean-albatross.237/) > **[Ulstein Bridge Concept](https://www.oicl.no/projects/ubc)** > > Ulstein Bridge Concept set out to completely redesign a full ships bridge ---
**Author:** ![Zarapito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d2c977/32.png) [@Zarapito](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Zarapito)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/19 "2023-09-21T01:53:32Z")
I’ve had a similar experience in the Fiords of New Zealand’s Fiordland. With plenty of electronics on the bridge , plus forward scanning sonar, we ran aground in the very gradual sloping soft, silty sea bed that was not showing any return on the screen (because of the composition and angle of the sea-bed). That type of sea bed is very common in fiords being the result of many years of run-offs from the valleys, and I would not be surprised if the Ocean Explorer ran aground because of the same problem I had. Luckily I managed to back off without any damage. ---
**Author:** ![Kennebec\_Captain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/kennebec_captain/32/13_2.png) [@Kennebec\_Captain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Kennebec_Captain)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 10:14am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129/20 "2023-09-22T10:14:51Z")
Some rivers, in Bristol Bay for example, have cut banks and point bars, don’t need a chart to know where the deep water is. I wonder if the location of theses glacial deposits can be anticipated in a similar way? Might be easier to spot if the navigator could anticipate where they are if they knew where to expect them. [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-ship-carrying-206-people-runs-aground-in-greenland-cnn/67129.md?page=2)