# Crowley Puerto Rico Fleet **URL:** \ **Category:** Professional Mariner Forum\ **Created:** [August 24, 2023, 4:48am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956 "2023-08-24T04:48:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zenofdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8c91f0/32.png) [@Zenofdog](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Zenofdog)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 4:48am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/1 "2023-08-24T04:48:52Z")
Does anyone have experience/info about the Crowley CPRS fleet? ---
**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/3 "2023-08-24T19:47:28Z")
There’s some old threads here about this topic. Basically a typical lower end paying SIU contract on old junker tugs. Lots of gripes about getting off on time and getting beaten up by wx in those old threads if i recall. Would be good to hear some updated info, because last i heard crowley had serious plans of phasing out the tugs and barges on this run and using ships. ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/4 "2023-08-25T00:27:14Z")
Last I heard the Crowley Jacksonville to San Juan run is all ships now. I heard they are keeping a few tugs and barges for Hurricane relief jobs. The Philadelphia to San Juan run might still be the old but awesome Invader Class tugs. There are some local PR tug companies that are very very low paying with old junk tugs. Signet has a Jacksonville to PR run. So does Dawn Services. I wouldn’t call a Jacksonville to PR run “working in PR.” Any of those companies probably need warm bodies with a license for that run. Other than weather, which can be terrible at times, it’s an easy run. ---
**Author:** ![Bucklerplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bucklerplate](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bucklerplate)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/5 "2023-08-25T00:34:30Z")
The CPRS fleet is being eaten up by COS. (Crowley offshore services). The alert class tugs have been sent to COS to work on the wind farm jobs. The invaders are going the way of the dodo. Pay for an AB is $430-440, Mate pay is around $630 a day. The rotation is 5/5 weeks on off, its SIU inland. ---
**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/6 "2023-08-25T00:47:05Z")
> [@tugsailor](#): > > Signet has a Jacksonville to PR run. So does Dawn Services. I have a engineer friend working for signet on that run. He seems to be happy there and they are paying engineers competitively. Didn’t know that Dawn had a boat on that run. ---
**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/7 "2023-08-25T00:47:49Z")
> [@Bucklerplate](#): > > Mate pay is around $630 a day. The rotation is 5/5 weeks on off, its SIU inland Is that 2nd mate pay? ---
**Author:** ![Bucklerplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bucklerplate](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bucklerplate)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:30am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/8 "2023-08-25T07:30:19Z")
Yeah, that’s the pay for a “2nd mate”. All the mates are 1600T, and your a “3rd” mate if you new to towing and don’t have your towing endorsement yet, then they bump you up. ---
**Author:** ![jdcavo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jdcavo/32/108_2.png) [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:22am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/9 "2023-08-25T10:22:54Z")
> [@Bucklerplate](#): > > and your a “3rd” mate if you new to towing and don’t have your towing endorsement yet, then they bump you up Does the “3rd Mate” without a towing endorsement stand a watch, or are they a trainee or similar? ---
**Author:** ![Bucklerplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bucklerplate](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Bucklerplate)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:47am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/10 "2023-08-25T10:47:41Z")
They stand a watch with the C/M, and train up to get their Towing endorsement. Once that happens, then they stand a watch. ---
**Author:** ![cmakin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cmakin](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cmakin)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:38am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/11 "2023-08-25T11:38:49Z")
I believe that most of the Invaders have been sold or scrapped by now. Sad, really, but time marches on. ---
**Author:** ![cmakin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cmakin](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/cmakin)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:42am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/12 "2023-08-25T11:42:02Z")
Granted it was a very long time ago when I sailed for Crowley and as an engineer, too. I started as a “trainee engineer” since the Invaders only carried one engineer at the time. I don’t recall what their training was for mates, and really not sure that they had a program at the time. The Captain, Chief Mate and Second Mate all stood watches. Not even sure where they would put an additional mate, other than in the Engineer’s extra bunk, or maybe with the cook. ---
**Author:** ![Ctony](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ctony/32/189_2.png) [@Ctony](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Ctony)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/13 "2023-08-25T14:16:07Z")
Thats definately competitive with other companies. Great to hear. ---
**Author:** ![tugsailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@tugsailor](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/tugsailor)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/14 "2023-08-25T15:52:47Z")
The Invaders are about 50 years old. I’ve heard that Crowley has one in service on the Philly to San Juan run, and a couple more cold stacked, but I don’t know how accurate that is. Awhile ago, I passed a boat that looked like an Invader, but was actually the forerunner Sea Swift Class, just a tad smaller with 5750hp. About 10 years ago, I made a trip on single screw Daring Class tug. She’s still around, now at least 60 years old, and poorly maintained. It was a nice trip, but she was thin and we had to use a little splash zone. ---
**Author:** ![BeerCaptain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@BeerCaptain](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/BeerCaptain)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/15 "2023-08-25T17:51:23Z")
> [@tugsailor](#): > > couple more cold stacked, but I don’t know how accurate that is. Last I heard they had some laid up in Lake Charles. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/capt_phoenix/32/281_2.png) [@Capt\_Phoenix](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Capt_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/16 "2023-08-25T18:10:30Z")
Unless they’ve laid up more there in the past few years that’s no longer true. ---
**Author:** ![Tugslasthitch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/tugslasthitch/32/1129_2.png) [@Tugslasthitch](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tugslasthitch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/17 "2023-08-26T01:48:12Z")
Explorer is still running a regular run into port Everglades I believe from jax. Sporting a fresh Crowley color scheme ---
**Author:** ![Zenofdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8c91f0/32.png) [@Zenofdog](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Zenofdog)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/18 "2023-08-26T02:54:38Z")
Tanx for the info ---
**Author:** ![atlantic65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@atlantic65](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/atlantic65)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/19 "2023-08-26T14:42:26Z")
They pulled the Defender back out and I think the Adventurer is on its way. I think they wished they kept a few more. Patriarch and Defender are currently on the Philly run. Good ol’ reliable boats. Quality with little technology. Some of the best boats ever built. ---
**Author:** ![50thState](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/a6a055/32.png) [@50thState](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/50thState)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/20 "2023-08-26T15:32:07Z")
Island Explorer out of Seattle is the old Pathfinder. Looks good with that light blue paint scheme. Still working past the 50 year mark. ---
**Author:** ![Salty\_Seaman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/salty_seaman/32/72430_2.png) [@Salty\_Seaman](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Salty_Seaman)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956/21 "2023-08-28T10:39:42Z")
“Explorer is still running a regular run into port Everglades I believe from jax. Sporting a fresh Crowley color scheme” Not true. All of Crowley’s regular runs into Port Everglades are foreign flag vessels. Occasionally they will run a barge to repo empties between JAX and Port Everglades. Tug Explorer was in Port Everglades back in July for a one time Cuba run. [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/crowley-puerto-rico-fleet/66956.md?page=2)