# Coasters Collide in the Baltic **URL:** \ **Category:** Marine Incidents\ **Created:** [December 13, 2021, 6:38am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666 "2021-12-13T06:38:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Klaveness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/klaveness/32/7001_2.png) [@Klaveness](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Klaveness)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 6:38am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/1 "2021-12-13T06:38:25Z")
The small coasters _Karin Hoej_ and _Scot Carrier_ collided at 03:30 CET this morning, off the South coast of Sweden. One of the ships is capsized, and there are people missing. With only a couple of degrees centigrade in the water, this one won’t have a happy ending ☹ Article in Expressen ([Swedish Original](https://www.expressen.se/kvallsposten/just-nu-tva-fartyg-i-olycka-pa-ostersjon-stor-raddningsinsats/) - [Google Translation](https://www-expressen-se.translate.goog/kvallsposten/just-nu-tva-fartyg-i-olycka-pa-ostersjon-stor-raddningsinsats/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no)) EDIT: According to [this article](https://www.aftenposten.no/verden/i/0Gbd62/stor-redningsaksjon-i-oestersjoeen-to-fartoeyer-skal-ha-kollidert) in Aftenposten, it’s the Karin Hoej that’s upside down. ---
**Author:** ![Dutchie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dutchie/32/170_2.png) [@Dutchie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Dutchie)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 9:23am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/2 "2021-12-13T09:23:19Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/b/9/b9dd7a037094e7582f3fd9611120e493896f33e3.jpeg) > **[Two cargo ships collide in Baltic fog, rescue underway](https://www.reuters.com/world/two-cargo-ships-have-collided-baltic-sea-swedish-public-broadcaster-2021-12-13/)** > > Two cargo ships collided on Monday during foggy conditions in the Baltic Sea between the Danish island of Bornholm and the southern Swedish city of Ystad, and a rescue operation was launched for two missing people, authorities said. ---
**Author:** ![Klaveness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/klaveness/32/7001_2.png) [@Klaveness](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Klaveness)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/3 "2021-12-13T10:44:50Z")
The AIS tracks make it look an awful lot like the Karin Hoej got run down from astern… ---
**Author:** ![ccairoli](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ccairoli/32/656_2.png) [@ccairoli](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ccairoli)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/4 "2021-12-13T11:22:08Z")
Could you please post the AIS tracks? ---
**Author:** ![ccairoli](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ccairoli/32/656_2.png) [@ccairoli](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ccairoli)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/5 "2021-12-13T11:22:54Z")
From the BBC: > **[Baltic Sea: Two missing after cargo ships collide off Sweden](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59633882)** > > A Danish vessel has capsized after colliding with a British-flagged ship in the Baltic Sea. ---
**Author:** ![Klaveness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/klaveness/32/7001_2.png) [@Klaveness](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Klaveness)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/6 "2021-12-13T12:02:09Z")
Here ya go: > **[MarineTraffic: Global Ship Tracking Intelligence | AIS Marine Traffic](https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:3861037/tracktype:7/lpt:1639178460)** > > MarineTraffic Live Ships Map. Discover information and vessel positions for vessels around the world. Search the MarineTraffic ships database of more than 550000 active and decommissioned vessels. Search for popular ships globally. Find locations of... > **[MarineTraffic: Global Ship Tracking Intelligence | AIS Marine Traffic](https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:5760951/tracktype:7/lpt:1639247400)** > > MarineTraffic Live Ships Map. Discover information and vessel positions for vessels around the world. Search the MarineTraffic ships database of more than 550000 active and decommissioned vessels. Search for popular ships globally. Find locations of... ---
**Author:** ![Dutchie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/dutchie/32/170_2.png) [@Dutchie](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Dutchie)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/7 "2021-12-13T17:34:17Z")
Two crew members of the Karin Hoej were missing. After towing the fully capsized ship to shallow waters one body was found inside the ship. None of the crew if the British ship was hurt by the accident. Two crew members of the Scot Carrier were arrested on the suspicion of the use of alcohol. ---
**Author:** ![Jurgen54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jurgen54/32/27113_2.png) [@Jurgen54](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Jurgen54)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/8 "2021-12-13T19:09:13Z")
Just a bit more: [Two cargo ships - one British - collide in the Baltic Sea: Two crew feared dead | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10303585/Two-cargo-ships-one-British-collide-Baltic-Sea.html): [Two cargo ships - one British - collide in the Baltic Sea: Two crew feared dead | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10303585/Two-cargo-ships-one-British-collide-Baltic-Sea.html) ---
**Author:** ![Hartley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/hartley/32/7603_2.png) [@Hartley](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Hartley)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/9 "2021-12-13T19:13:33Z")
A avoidable tragedy… Why do the news articles insist on identifying the Karin Hoej as a “barge”? ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/10 "2021-12-13T20:03:13Z")
She is classed as a Self-sailing barges (Splitbarge): > **[Karin Høj - Rederiet Høj](http://en.eh-dk.com/c/ships/karin-hoej)** > > Self-sailing barges (Splitbarge) Latest from BBC News: > **[Two detained after UK boat's fatal collision off Sweden](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59633882)** > > One person is dead and one missing after a Danish ship collides with a UK vessel in the Baltic Sea. ---
**Author:** ![Archive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Archive](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Archive)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/11 "2021-12-13T21:36:47Z")
Looking at the AIS they were both going through a TSS in the same direction, prior to the collision the Scot Carrier was doing about 12 knots and the Karin Hoej was doing about 6 knots. The AIS tracks indicate that the Scot Carrier was the overtaking vessel but they just went straight into the stern of the Karin Hoej. ---
**Author:** ![Archive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Archive](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Archive)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/12 "2021-12-13T21:41:43Z")
I’ve heard that crew on small coasters are often expected to work an illegally high number of hours but record that they have worked legal hours. Hours of rest are often not complied with. ---
**Author:** ![Heiwa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/heiwa/32/1054_2.png) [@Heiwa](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Heiwa)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 10:31am UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/13 "2021-12-15T10:31:07Z")
I have never heard of Self-sailing barges. But maybe they sail around in Norway on their own. Are you a Captain of one such Self-sailing barge? ---
**Author:** ![Tupsis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tupsis](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tupsis)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/14 "2021-12-15T13:37:32Z")
I guess a better term would be “self-propelled barge” as “self-sailing” may also be interpreted as being autonomous. IHS classified _Karin Høj_ as “Hopper, Motor”; perhaps “motor hopper” could also be quite descriptive. ---
**Author:** ![jdcavo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/jdcavo/32/108_2.png) [@jdcavo](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/jdcavo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/15 "2021-12-15T14:01:27Z")
> [@Heiwa](#): > > I have never heard of Self-sailing barges There were a number of WWII vintage small tank vessels operating on the U.S. east coast that were often referred to as “motorized barges” Boston Towing & Transportation had one ([Vincent Tibbetts](http://tugboatinformation.com/tug.cfm?id=150)), and Poling Bros. also operated some of them. ---
**Author:** ![Tupsis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tupsis](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Tupsis)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/16 "2021-12-15T15:12:57Z")
If I recall correctly, Aquamaster used to offer deck-mounted azimuthing propulsion units that could turn a non-self-propelled barge into one that could move under its own power. ---
**Author:** ![ombugge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/ombugge/32/11217_2.png) [@ombugge](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/ombugge)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/17 "2021-12-15T15:37:11Z")
Self-sailing Barges (Splitbarge) was the term used by the Owner in their vessel specification. (See post #9) Yes the Karin Høj was equipped with two Harbourmaster units, as seen here: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/9/a/9a454093f39c0f5e7c1397638e2a1da493572d31.jpeg) Refr.: > **[KARIN HØJ - Occupational accident on 9 May 2019](https://dmaib.com/reports/2019/karin-hoej-occupational-accident-on-9-may-2019/)** > > On 9 May 2019, a first mate was trapped by a cardan shaft aboard the construction ship KARIN HØJ, while she was in the process of replacing a hydraulic hose on the ship’s propulsion system. The first.. Not uncommon on split barges seen worldwide. Here two of three operating in Lihir Island, PNG: ![DSCN0962 (2)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/3/b/3b6578b54a6826dee278e2ef6e6f1f3bbe17cbbd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Steamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Steamer](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Steamer)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/18 "2021-12-15T15:39:00Z")
> [@jdcavo](#): > > were often referred to as “motorized barges” In Pacific Northwest vernacular, they are “power scows” and were a major part of the Alaska fishing industry. ---
**Author:** ![Klaveness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.gcaptain.com/klaveness/32/7001_2.png) [@Klaveness](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Klaveness)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/19 "2021-12-15T16:30:19Z")
I thought “power scow” referred specifically to a WW2 BSP? ---
**Author:** ![Archive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Archive](https://forum.gcaptain.com/u/Archive)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666/20 "2021-12-15T20:05:55Z")
Here is a replay of the AIS: [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/gcaptain_maritime_forum/original/3X/4/7/47fcaef4b7bd40400533133674f72a1d8d2b9c22.jpeg "MV SCOT CARRIER collision with KARIN HOEJ, BALTIC SEA") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MlzHl2_ywA) [Next page](https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/coasters-collide-in-the-baltic/61666.md?page=2)